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- Oct 31, 2020
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I think the thought process here is that Sage is tied to the DIK route so it's odd that there are scenes with her that only happen if you do something CHIK.
- Oct 20, 2020
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Another reason I think it will be Bella is the fact that DPC has her openly state she is a teacher and it is even listed in the character bios on your phone. If it's important enough to make it into the bios, it usually means it will come into play later in the story. If this game isn't going to last long enough to cover the spring semester, then why would DPC bring up the fact that Bella is teaching a spring course that MC has to take? Bella taking over for Cathy alleviates that potential issue if the game does indeed end prior to spring.
- Oct 14, 2020
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This is very similar to the discussion that's going on about the Jill/Sage choice, where when you do something thoughtful by helping Sage you loose with Jill who's always been on the CHIK path. It's just kinda game-y for a visual novel.
- Nov 3, 2020
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Add this to your reasoning and I do not think that a girl who likes you is very happy that you reject her romantic date for going to help another girl, no matter how much friend she is, because she may think that the friend is more important than herself ... I at least think for myself. If I'm dating a girl and I go to her house with a surprise date for her birthday and she dumps me because she tells me she has to take care of a friend, I would take it a little badly.
- Oct 31, 2020
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Nobody dumps anybody. MC made a prior commitment and 'punishing' him for it by subtracting Jill points if he decides to honor it seems counterintuitive when Jill is all about dropping everything to support friends in need and going out of her way to 'help' people (like when she reported Chad). That's what this boils down to.
Which is absolutely hilarious because women hate it when you try to make a date without giving them a 2-3 days notice.
- Jun 17, 2019
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That I can understand, but note that for a Neutral/Chick MC is not that the friend is more important than her, is that MC's word to a friend is more important than anything else, especially when he doesn't have enough inputs to properly weight the situation (had MC now beforehand what Tybalt is doing, that this might be his last chance to be with Jill, well, maybe priorities can change). Until this point, Jill has been a nice, sensible and understanding woman who likes to do good things to her friends. How can MC imagine she, from all the people, is the one who's going to cut ties with him for not being "free" to accept a surprise date?
What I'm trying to show is the inconsistence with the way the game has being handling relationships and characters so far, and also how almost every big choice is presented in an unfair way just because in the last moment DPC decides that characters can't speak as loud and clear as they usually express themselves. We are playing a game and the dev is playing us, that I don't like.
- Nov 3, 2020
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I know but that's why you have to choose, if Sage is just a friend or fuck buddy and Jill is your love interest you know who to choose and vice versa. Sage has the flu, is something normal , nothing serious and you can go with her at any other time or day, the birthday date could only be there.
- Aug 4, 2019
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Sage path does not requires any affinity status. You simply agree to teach her how to play guitar and you agree to fuck with her when she offer it, and you to became fuck-buddies .
- Jun 17, 2019
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That could also work exactly the opposite way, don't you think? The birthday date (MC's birthday was the day before, btw) could be easily postponed to the next day. Tomorrow Sage could be OK, is today when she needs help
Pre Josei Maya and Bella we're the only 2 LI's that interested me when i started playing. Maya is a no go anymore as shes too meek and submissive now and we all know the Bella drama is coming so i fully expect my MC to end up alone at this point. Maybe there's a surprise ending with Jade or one of the side girls but i'm not holding my breath.
- Nov 3, 2020
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But be serious and speak for yourself, think for a moment what you would do, I repeat myself a lot but here you must choose the one you consider that you want to have something serious with her. If it's Sage, go to her and what Jill thinks, well is her problem, since you don't see her as something serious, because I don't think she stops talking to you (regardless of blackmail), she'll still be your friend but nothing more. I dont see the problem, if you date multiple girls at time you can be hurted xD and I know it from my own experience haha
- Jun 17, 2019
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If I had 19 years old and were torned between Sage and Jill, I'd go to Sage every day. Most people interested in Jill would go with her, but that would mean breaking with all what your character is. The point is that this exact situation (going to a surprise date vs staying true to your word given to a friend) being the turning point for Jill is non-sensical (considering how the affinity/RP system has been built so far) and highly unfair for a Chick MC who's unaware of Tybalt's machination
- Oct 20, 2020
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I don't mind DPC including a fork in the road choice between Sage and Jill. I just wish he wouldn't have made the choice so counterintuitive. No matter how you slice it, helping a severely ill friend (male or female, fuck buddy or not) is a Chick choice and Chick choices are Jill's bread and butter.
Well... in my case it's not a question of pursuing someone or not. In real life I am the kind of person that when says he is doing something, then he is... that's it... If I say yes to a certain plan, I am not changing my answer almost no matter what. Of course there could be extenuating circunstances, but I dont think that's ever happened to me. More like the other party cancels the get toghether or whatever it was. So even though I am pursuing Jill, I feel I have to go to Sage on that moment and in real life you probably would not loose points truth be told. It's a "friend" (at least as far as Jill knows) and is sick.
- Oct 31, 2020
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But MC being seen as making a 'relationship' decision if he goes to take care of a sick and depressed Sage when she's essentially friend-zoned him makes absolutely no sense... Beyond that, the right thing to do would be to go to the friend you know needs you rather than pursuing getting your dick wet by going on a date with Jill, and I could've sworn Jill was into people doing the right thing...
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This is where, again, I feel the affinity system of this game proves its flaws. DPC is trying to put certain characters on certain paths that align with this largely undefined system that seems like it's intended to be a metric of the MC's personality, but his actions should speak far louder than a character's pre-designated alignment, and not just those of the Major Choices.
Major DIK choices show the MC to have something of a reckless and impulsive streak, whilst Major CHICK choices show him to be more calm and measured. But even whilst having DIK affinity he can do good deeds and say the right things with the minor choices, just as he can be a jerk and say more crude things whilst having CHICK affinity. It not only creates an inconsistency within the character but can also create inconsistencies within the story and the MC's relationships with other characters, case-in-point, M&J. A DIK affinity MC can gain every RP with M&J and do everything positive with them yet is rejected because apparently his personality is something that makes them doubt having a relationship with him even though his actions with them should give them no reason to doubt him.
Similarly, being locked out of Cathy's content, helping Quinn, the tongue play with Lily, and bar scenes with Nora, Nicole and Sandy are being tied to not just affinity but also relationship status, and it's robbing us of being able to make our own choices. The game is choosing for us, and I personally am not liking this approach and do not look forward to this increasing as the game goes on. There can be consequences, sure, but let us, the player, deal with them. We should be the ones deciding if we want to risk it or not, but equally I feel there should be a way for us to try to mitigate the consequences to soften the blow. DPC, however, seems to feel it's better to let us suffer consequences without choice which would be bad game design, in my opinion.
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It was probably asked before, but the search function is awful.. what's new in 0.61? Just bugs right? Because I played the whole 0.60 and did not find any bug, maybe it was in older episodes.