VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.10.1] [DrPinkCake]

[DirtyMario]

Well, it doesn't make sense. Who cares who Tommy fucks. This is a way to show that Tommy also fucks girls on the side like MС.

Yes exactly. We are not disagreeing. Who cares who Tommy fucks? So just show me Cammy or whoever's in that bed.
If you don't there's probably a reason for it.

 

[EfontMan]

If you don't there's probably a reason for it

DPC going for the stealth addition of the NTR tag.

 

[PashafromRussia]

Yes exactly. We are not disagreeing. Who cares who Tommy fucks? So just show me Cammy or whoever's in that bed.
If you don't there's probably a reason for it.

There is a reason. If DPC had shown that Camila was behind the screen, the anti-NTR organization would have been offended. DPC is in a very difficult situation. On the one hand, he has to show that other guys have connections on the side, on the other hand, not to offend Anti-NTR fanatics. Maybe that makes sense. Maybe DPC didn't have time to draw a few renders.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

There is a reason. If DPC had shown that Camila was behind the screen, the anti-NTR organization would have been offended. DPC is in a very difficult situation. On the one hand, he has to show that other guys have connections on the side, on the other hand, not to offend Anti-NTR fanatics. Maybe that makes sense. Maybe DPC didn't have time to draw a few renders.

But Cammy is a literal prostitute, there were dialogues hinting she fucked others. Even Riona was shown with Jamie, and Rusty told Tommy how awesome she is on the bed. She wasn't shown because of that. It doesn't make sense DPC caring how anti-NTR people felt if characters such as Quinn, Cammy, Rio, Sarah & Mel were shown fucking others.

 

[PashafromRussia]

But Cammy is a literal prostitute, there were dialogues hinting she fucked others. Even Riona was shown with Jamie, and Rusty told Tommy how awesome she is on the bed. She wasn't shown because of that. It doesn't make sense DPC caring how anti-NTR people felt if characters such as Quinn, Cammy, Rio, Sarah & Mel were shown fucking others.

Perhaps, with the increase in the number of patrons, DPC realized that it was necessary to give fewer hints. In addition, Tommy and Rusty's dialogue, Jamie's words and so on refer to the first two episodes. In the second season, the side guys only discuss how they fucked Arieth.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

Perhaps, with the increase in the number of patrons, DPC realized that it was necessary to give fewer hints. In addition, Tommy and Rusty's dialogue, Jamie's words and so on refer to the first two episodes. In the second season, the side guys only discuss how they fucked Arieth.

So DPC won't show who Tommy & Heather had a 3some with because he cares what anti-NTR people may feel instead of because he wants his players to create theories like what people are doing right now? Sure sure.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

I don't know how you can't comprehend that it takes time to make something good.

6 months between updates is a problem for you, because you're impatient.

It's not like the developer is doing nothing all day long, he's working long hours on this project.

Most games on this site are shit. Then there are some gems among the rough. Then there's this game, putting almost all of them to shame.

When DPC finished Acting Lessons, he was a huge name in this industry. Then he started BaDIK and his popularity grew even more. Once he's finished this game and starts another one, he'll only be raking in more millions.

Given his selection in music, his style in story telling, his animation and graphical skills, and his humour to boot, he can just start another game in another genre and he will be successful.

He doesn't have to "milk" this game to make money, and if people start losing interest in this game because he is milking it, he'll only lose money in the long run.

Compare that to Dark Cookie and his Summertime Saga. That was a great little game, but it's totally being milked now, the updates are pathetic and the game should just be ended, but he's making 75K a month, so he's opted to milk it instead. That is 100% not what DPC is doing.

Comparing STS with BADIK is nonsense.
Summertime Saga is fully handdrawn, characters, backgrounds, buildings, everything, where BADIK is only cgi.
Sure DarkCookie dawdles a lot but so does DocPink.
DC is streaming daily & answers questions live, STS have a progress tracker for free users and a very detailed tracker for patrons he also have to take care of his 3 little kids.
Would made sense if you compared a 3D h dev with DocPink, the only western adult dev that is fast is NLT, absolutely nobody (before him) released updates bi weekly, he completed TON's story in under 2 years and it's full with quests, high quality, h scenes, story and so on & so forth plus he is already working on his next game The Genesis Order which will look even better & will be voiced on top of that.
Being A Dik looks awesome doesn't change the fact that DrPink is milKING. 6 or 7 months between updates is way to much and you're wrong STS updates have 3-4 months between new releases not 6.
Heck even PhillyGames is faster than DrMilkCake and COBD looks better.

 

[gamingdevil800]

So DPC won't show who Tommy & Heather had a 3some with because he cares what anti-NTR people may feel instead of because he wants his players to create theories like what people are doing right now? Sure sure.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't Heather especially if you reveal that he's +3 or whatever

 

[SpearOfReigns]

Heck even PhillyGames is faster than DrMilkCake and COBD looks better.

Let's compare changelog of their latest perspective updates:
CoBD Chapter 10: 922 new renderes. 54 new animations
BaDIK Episode 7: 3722 renders. 250 animations

I know it's hard for you to comprehend but more content means it will take more time to develop.

 

[n0cn1l]

Comparing STS with BADIK is nonsense.
Summertime Saga is fully handdrawn, characters, backgrounds, buildings, everything, where BADIK is only cgi.
Sure DarkCookie dawdles a lot but so does DocPink.
DC is streaming daily & answers questions live, STS have a progress tracker for free users and a very detailed tracker for patrons he also have to take care of his 3 little kids.
Would made sense if you compared a 3D h dev with DocPink, the only western adult dev that is fast is NLT, absolutely nobody (before him) released updates bi weekly, he completed TON's story in under 2 years and it's full with quests, high quality, h scenes, story and so on & so forth plus he is already working on his next game The Genesis Order which will look even better & will be voiced on top of that.
Being A Dik looks awesome doesn't change the fact that DrPink is milKING. 6 or 7 months between updates is way to much and you're wrong STS updates have 3-4 months between new releases not 6.
Heck even PhillyGames is faster than DrMilkCake and City Of Broken Dreamers looks better.

So DPC is milking it and DC is not? call me when DC decides to stop redesigning their characters. Their last update was what? a new map...puff. The day DC does an update worth 2h of gameplay as DPC, we can talk.

Lets be honest here patreon rewards slow development and there is nothing wrong with that as long as we get an update worth the wait, so calm your tits and play other games, there are plenty on this site

 

[seniorboop]

This is why I don't get the dudes who keep saying the story is so good. It's written to facilitate a sex game and get you into scenarios to have sex with this or that chick. It's fine for what it is, but it isn't all that.

I mean the story definitely has its high points in certain areas but yeah, I dont think DPC thought the Jill plot through as much as he should have. Adding to that, I feel as if Jill's plot has only devalued her as a character rather than building her up unlike everyone else.

Her reasoning for being a virgin is dumb and something literally everyone that has ever had sex struggled with before their first time, the entire blackmail plot makes zero sense, the complete and utter destruction of her self-confidence is dumb, her abysmal ability to identify social red flags (Tybalt) is borderline retarded... Just a few but not all the reasons why I dislike Jill as of episode 7.

Being rich and attractive is seemingly all Jill has going for her at this point. I really hope DPC concludes the blackmail plotline in episode 8 and begins to consider how he can build her back up in season 3. She's a weaker LI than Maya from my POV.

 

[AchedCroissant]

DC is also milking but so is DrMilkCake, why do you guys try everything to protect his practices.
Wonder why you didn't say a word about NLT guess because he's the kryptonite for milkers.

At the moment, the EP8 is approaching 4000 renders and almost 300 animations

If DPC released an update every 15 days with 200 renders and 10 animations and you calculate that in 6 months it would be 2400 renders and 60 animations

I prefer he publish the entire chapter because I don't want to play it in chunks...

Or as others would do. What if you like Sage? Well her next update will come out in 2022, Do you like Jill? wait until 2023

 

[DirtyMario]

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Okay. Is there a paragraph saying that he does everything by himself? I don't think he would even have to disclose it to be honest. Everyone has the option of hiring help if he can afford it, it's nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[TuffyTenToes]

DC is also milking but so is DrMilkCake, why do you guys try everything to protect his practices.
Wonder why you didn't say a word about NLT guess because he's the kryptonite for milkers.

What is your point my dude?

Why did you suddenly had the need to come into this thread to start this "milking" shit and comparing other games to it? you obviously want to create some stupid drama or whatever, and then you act all surprised when fans of the game (because you are in a fan thread after all) start calling you out.

 

[Deleted member 4212304]

I mean the story definitely has its high points in certain areas but yeah, I dont think DPC thought the Jill plot through as much as he should have. Adding to that, I feel as if Jill's plot has only devalued her as a character rather than build her up unlike everyone else.

Jill is popular because she has the best model, but her story is awful. It has to integrated into the wider story with the rest of the cast instead of just Bella. I get that she could be shy due to past experiences but the idea that she's a junior in college who has no friends but the librarian is moronic.

Her reasoning for being a virgin is dumb and something literally everyone that has ever had sex struggled with before their first time, the entire blackmail storyline is dumb, the complete and utter destruction of her self-confidence is dumb, her abysmal ability to identify social red flags (Tybalt) is borderline retarded... Just a few but not all the reasons why I dislike Jill as of episode 7.

It would be much better if Jill had bad sexual experiences in the past, not rape or anything just shitty boyfriends, that make her weary of getting into another relationship. Instead they went with the idea that she is a socially stunted virgin who doesn't know how to flirt (but actually knows how to expertly tease you with the way she dresses because this is still a porn game). The blackmail storyline is dumb, there is no defining it. I could buy that Jill is forced to deal with Tybalt due to social obligations foisted onto her by her parents, but date him or he'll tattle on this guy she has a crush on is dumb. Speaking of Tybalt, he is a idiotic character who is even more socially stunted than Jill. It's not even fun to get one over on him because he's so pathetic. He's not a good foil for the MC, he's just a punching bag. It would make more sense for Jill, who we're supposed to believe is from a rich and affluent family, presumably old money, would know how to socially interact with people and pick up on social cues like Tybalt being a doofy creep. The fact that Jill lives in the frat with them is dumb too, but that was done for whatever reason.

Being rich and attractive is seemingly all Jill has going for her at this point. I really hope DPC concludes the blackmail plotline in episode 8 and begins to consider how he can build her back up in season 3. She's a weaker LI than Maya from my POV.

Pretty much. Even Maya has a less than stellar storyline because DPC either doesn't know you don't need a cosigner for most student loans or chose to ignore that for dramatic reasons. Maya seems smart, she'd probably get some scholarship money for college anyway. But Maya being a virgin at 18 is much more believable than Jill. Maya sorta likes girls maybe for one so no dudes.

 

[always86]

Comparing STS with BADIK is nonsense.
Summertime Saga is fully handdrawn, characters, backgrounds, buildings, everything, where BADIK is only cgi.
Sure DarkCookie dawdles a lot but so does DocPink.
DC is streaming daily & answers questions live, STS have a progress tracker for free users and a very detailed tracker for patrons he also have to take care of his 3 little kids.
Would made sense if you compared a 3D h dev with DocPink, the only western adult dev that is fast is NLT, absolutely nobody (before him) released updates bi weekly, he completed TON's story in under 2 years and it's full with quests, high quality, h scenes, story and so on & so forth plus he is already working on his next game The Genesis Order which will look even better & will be voiced on top of that.
Being A Dik looks awesome doesn't change the fact that DrPink is milKING. 6 or 7 months between updates is way to much and you're wrong STS updates have 3-4 months between new releases not 6.
Heck even PhillyGames is faster than DrMilkCake and COBD looks better.

I’m not going to debate STS I haven’t played as I think the art is a bit shite, but I’m quite picky when it comes to the art work in 2D or 3D.

NLT made a good game, but once the foundations were in place it then was ‘only’ a question of telling the story and doing the (excellent) animation plus visual novel elements. My playtime on Nadia with the story 100% is 35 hours. This includes plenty of what the fuck do I do now time. The game took around 2 years to finish after the first release.

BADIK first release was 8/02/19 meaning by the time the 8th chapter comes out it will have been about 2 years and 9 months. When chapter 8 comes out the game will be 30+ hours for a single play through. However there is enough unique content to justify at least 2 playthroughs if not more. Representing 40+ hours of content to see. Possibly more.

BADIK is MUCH more narratively complex than ToN. Nadia’s plot is fun but linear. IMO there is no replay-ability. BADIK with CHICK, DIK & NEUTRAL paths, plus unique scenes based on choices that you might take on any given route, that there are potentially hundreds if not thousands of scene combinations that the player might see depending on how they play.

BADIK has many more complex mechanics than Nadia, for better or worse. Nadia is essentially RPG maker fetch quest, plus basic puzzle solving, fishing and what amounts to a gallery mode. BADIK has DIK/ CHICK status and points as well as character reputations all impacting the story, dialogue choices, free roam events, class tests, Rooster, the dating app, choices within sex scenes, fighting, phone puzzles, house repair, and tennis.

I don’t want to shit on NLT because I enjoyed Nadia, but there is simply more to BADIk. Not to mention I believe NLT are a team and DPC works on his own.

 

[crabsinthekitchen]

DC is also milking but so is DrMilkCake, why do you guys try everything to protect his practices.
Wonder why you didn't say a word about NLT guess because he's the kryptonite for milkers.

The animation playtime of this episode alone is now over 18 minutes

I don't know, maybe because just the animation time in the upcoming update is about the size of usual NLT update that includes 15 minutes of running around the map

 

[Darg]

Damn the white knights on this thread turn full zombie, lunatics wake up! stop this circle jerk, its annoying.
Comparing fully handdrawn art with 3D render games only to have "a point" to protect there master, pathetic & weak.

Maybe because people here are ok with content that being produce for time spent on development. Why are you even trying to "wake" someone here?
And yea, stop counting someone else's money.

 

[DarkKiller]

Or as others would do. What if you like Sage? Well her next update will come out in 2022, Do you like Jill? wait until 2023

That wouldn't even work with the structure of this game's story, if DPC did that it would completely break the dynamic between some scenes and characters.

But DPC is not without faults, he already said he's a perfectionist, he prefers to work alone, so I won't even mention a coder, but he does have the help of testers at the end of the development of each chapter, so if he hired a tester and approached the development with a more agile methodology (a tester could test features and scenes as soon as they were implemented) he could speed up the dev time quite a bit.

 

[SpearOfReigns]

I don't know, maybe because just the animations in the upcoming update is about the size of usual NLT update that includes 15 minutes of running around the map
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Damn, how big if your AVN screenshot folders? You seem to have one for every occasion