OFT

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I personally hate underdog stories. They're a dime a dozen...

I can understand your view on the underdog, but almost all plotlines are now a dime a dozen, not just the underdog. I'm not sure what's better.
  • The Fallen Hero?
  • The Outcast?
  • Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy meets dog, magaclaawe wets himself?

I think we're at the point in narrative art history that a truly unique plot that resembles no existing trope is extraordinarily rare (like that last one in the list ;)).

But I'm with you, in that I feel despite his shortcomings, DPC is an overall good writer. He manages to make almost every storyline entertaining to me.

I also firmly believe that the ones posting how horrible a writer he is are either trolling or deluding themselves. If he were truly so horrible, they wouldn't be playing the game episode after episode. And if they were in it only for the faps, they would just unren the game and look at the stills and movies.
 
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nyrek

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Maya in the first few episodes isn't just a love interest, she's your best friend, a fellow outsider. Its the two of you, back to back against the world.
this. this is why she was and still is the best LI for me. MC and maya have this connection since the start and that's what makes her special

I don't think we are really in disagreement. Maya was popular in the beginning until the big reveal.
...
I haven't seen this much Maya love since season 1.
I started playing a few days before episode 7 got out
I haven't had to go through the time between episodes with the cliffhangers, especially the reveal one, so my thoughts about her didn't have a chance to change
as walker wrote in the above quote, it was two of you from the start, against everything thrown your way.

josy got a lot better later on, especially after the party scene in ep 8 when elena says "you should see how she brightens up when he is mentioned" and only because of that got close to maya

but still... maya is love.
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jackofshadows

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I personally hate underdog stories. They're a dime a dozen and not at all hard to write. But a good writer (DPC is pretty good) can write a story about a powerful character and still have it be engaging, they do need to come up against challenges and obstacles, but just because they're strong, doesn't make them not interesting.
But it is an underdog story. Or it WAS, rather. S1 and the whole premise was all about that. Suddenly, by the end of S2 it's almost come to its conclusion. In other words, the approach isn't consistent at all and DPC isn't a good writer. Either it was his plan all along or it has been changed in the process, doesn't matter. Any possible tension regarding the MC is gone now. Luckily, this game has other, much more appealing aspects such as humour, cool animation and stuff.
 

shazba

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Maya is my number #1 too, but if DPC make me choose between two LIs again i will kill myself and leave 13 voice record tapes and all 13 will have DPC's name.
This sounds like a cool TV series idea! :eek:

I can understand your view on the underdog, but almost all plotlines are now a dime a dozen, not just the underdog. I'm not sure what's better.
  • The Fallen Hero?
  • The Outcast?
  • Boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy meets dog, magaclawe wets himself?

I think we're at the point in narrative art history that a truly unique plot that resembles no existing trope is extraordinarily rare (like that last one in the list ;)).

But I'm with you, in that I feel despite his shortcomings, DPC is an overall good writer. He manages to make almost every storyline entertaining to me.

I also firmly believe that the ones posting how horrible a writer he is are either trolling or deluding themselves. If he were truly so horrible, they wouldn't be playing the game episode after episode. And if they were in it only for the faps, they would just unren the game and look at the stills and movies.
The funny thing is, people (in general, not necessarily here) say they want something new, but when they get something new they complain that it "doesn't know what it wants to be". I hate that phase from critics. :mad: They want something new but they want it to conform to what they know. :rolleyes:

The truth is, we feel comfortable with what we know, we embrace it. The pioneer of anything new gets shunned, until enough of that new shit is around people are able to look back and say, "It was ahead of its time!" :rolleyes:

BaDIK is popular, I think, because it takes what we know and love and does it well: College, girls, alcohol, sex, friends, and scary librarians. (y)

But it is an underdog story. Or it WAS, rather. S1 and the whole premise was all about that. Suddenly, by the end of S2 it's almost come to its conclusion. In other words, the approach isn't consistent at all and DPC isn't a good writer. Either it was his plan all along or it has been changed in the process, doesn't matter. Any possible tension regarding the MC is gone now. Luckily, this game has other, much more appealing aspects such as humour, cool animation and stuff.
I think the mc transitioning from a shy guy to what he is now is fine. I think the naked streak from the HOTs as well as the CUMPetition definitely make an impact on him. I wouldn't call that bad writing, it was exactly the hook that suckered so many people into the game for so long.
 

mpa71

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:coffee: Updated BigTable™ with the recent informations.
HalfWay!

  • Since the last status update, the Renders queue probably growth by about 300.
  • It's blurry but we probably had 10 animations and 200 renders done that week.
  • That time, in a pessimism scenario, it's surely half done with the release.
  • Estimate as wide as 32 weeks - 38 weeks. Mid October - End November.
EP​
Renders​
Animations​
Music*
Size (GB)​
Release​
Development Time​
Ratio*
R/D
A/D
sA/D
EP1130151 (3:29)≈1.1
07 Feb 2019​
— days
—​
—​
—​
—​
EP21709 (+31%)77 (3:36) (+26)≈2.3 (+1.2)
04 May 2019​
087 (2 months, 28 days |≈12 weeks)
22.1​
19.6​
0.89
2.48
EP32289 (+34%)99 (4:42) (+22)≈4.1 (+1.8)
16 Aug 2019​
105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)
24.5​
21.8
0.94​
2.69
EP42532 (+11%)134 (7:57) (+35)≈6.1 (+2.0)
10 Jan 2020​
148 (4 months, 26 days |≈21 weeks)
20.3
17.1
0.91
3.22​
EP52456 (-3%)157 (8:35) (+23)17 (3.4K$)≈8.0 (+1.9)
29 May 2020​
141 (4 months, 20 days |≈20 weeks)
21.1
17.4
1.11​
3.65​
EP63336 (+35%)162 (8:33) (+5)24 (4.8K$)≈11.1 (+3.1)
13 Nov 2020​
169 (5 months, 16 days |≈24 weeks)
22.8​
19.7​
0.96​
3.04​
EP73723 (+12%)250 (18:14) (+88)18 (3.6K$)≈14.5 (+3.4)
23 Apr 2021​
162 (5 months, 11 days |≈23 weeks)
29.7
23.0
1.54
6.75
EP84158 (+12%)358 (26:21) (+108)34 (6.8K$)≈19.5 (+5.0)
19 Nov 2021​
211 (6 months, 28 days |≈30 weeks)
27.2
19.7​
1.70
7.49
EPI79436 (4:36)19 (3.8K$)≈2.6 (new)
4 Mar 2022​
105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)
10.1
7.6
0.34
2.53
EP9≈2000 (<2500)≈160 (195)
in development
133 (4 months, 11 days |≈19 weeks)
16.8
1.27
Complete Table with the help of Holy Bacchus† original post — Being a DIK in development since 3 years, 5 months, 8 day (41 months / 179 weeks / 1,254 days / 30,096 hours)
* 199$ Premium Licensed Music ; Total: 22,288$ — Ratio values exclude EPI ; Ratio: (Renders/Days + SecondsAnimations/Days) [Average: 24.0 ; Last Two: 28.5 (+19%)]
Renders/Days [Average: 19.8 ; Last Two: 21.3 (+8%)] — Animations/Days [Average: 1.15 ; Last Two: 1.62 (+41%)] — SecondsAnimations/Days [Average: 4.19 ; Last Two: 7.12 (+69%)]


(y) Thumb up to well made Casiope DIK Walkthrough.
 
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BigBlueDude

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It's the other way around. People love Josy and want Maya out of it. Either this or the throuple.
Am I a freak then? I would prefer MC to be on a solo Maya path. Ive been mainlining the throuple because of Maya but it felt like it didnt pay off enough during season 2 (as compared to all other characters which got a lot of good fleshing out which I did enjoy immensely) Josy is just too bland for me to pair up with the MC even though shes really lovely and easygoing, also shes consistently shafted regarding story which is not doing her any favors in my book.

So I think my main play with be Neutral Bella instead of neutral Throuple. This will mess up my saves though with a bunch of overlapping content compared to the three other saves i run to get all content (huge dik Quinn, giga dik manwhore Sage for ultimate drama, omega chick Bella+Jill). I really dislike the idea of single LI pursuits and dont do them.

Maya Bella and Quinn are the most interesting storylines to me. I care the most about them.
 
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Kellermann

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Am I a freak then? I would prefer MC to be on a solo Maya path. Ive been mainlining the throuple because of Maya but it felt like it didnt pay off enough during season 2 (as compared to all other characters which got a lot of good fleshing out which I did enjoy immensely) Josy is just too bland for me to pair up with the MC even though shes really lovely and easygoing, also shes consistently shafted regarding story which is not doing her any favors in my book.

So I think my main play with be Neutral Bella instead of neutral Throuple. This will mess up my saves though with a bunch of overlapping content compared to the three other saves i run to get all content (huge dik Quinn, giga dik manwhore Sage for ultimate drama, omega chick Bella+Jill). I really dislike the idea of single LI pursuits and dont do them.

Maya Bella and Quinn are the most interesting storylines to me. I care the most about them.
No, it just means it only took one post to bring all of the Maya stans out of the woodwork and back into the light. The hibernating bears have emerged after a long, very cold winter. The floodgates have been opened all because of one post from a bro with balls of iron.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Jun 15, 2022
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:coffee: Updated BigTable™ with the recent informations.
HalfWay!

  • Since the last status update, the Renders queue probably growth by about 300.
  • It's blurry but we probably had 10 animations and 200 renders done that week.
  • That time, in a pessimism scenario, it's surely half done with the release.
  • Estimate as wide as 32 weeks - 38 weeks. Mid October - End November.
EP​
Renders​
Animations​
Music*
Size (GB)​
Release​
Development Time​
Ratio*
R/D
A/D
sA/D
EP1130151 (3:29)≈1.1
07 Feb 2019​
— days
—​
—​
—​
—​
EP21709 (+31%)77 (3:36) (+26)≈2.3 (+1.2)
04 May 2019​
087 (2 months, 28 days |≈12 weeks)
22.1​
19.6​
0.89
2.48
EP32289 (+34%)99 (4:42) (+22)≈4.1 (+1.8)
16 Aug 2019​
105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)
24.5​
21.8
0.94​
2.69
EP42532 (+11%)134 (7:57) (+35)≈6.1 (+2.0)
10 Jan 2020​
148 (4 months, 26 days |≈21 weeks)
20.3
17.1
0.91
3.22​
EP52456 (-3%)157 (8:35) (+23)17 (3.4K$)≈8.0 (+1.9)
29 May 2020​
141 (4 months, 20 days |≈20 weeks)
21.1
17.4
1.11​
3.65​
EP63336 (+35%)162 (8:33) (+5)24 (4.8K$)≈11.1 (+3.1)
13 Nov 2020​
169 (5 months, 16 days |≈24 weeks)
22.8​
19.7​
0.96​
3.04​
EP73723 (+12%)250 (18:14) (+88)18 (3.6K$)≈14.5 (+3.4)
23 Apr 2021​
162 (5 months, 11 days |≈23 weeks)
29.7
23.0
1.54
6.75
EP84158 (+12%)358 (26:21) (+108)34 (6.8K$)≈19.5 (+5.0)
19 Nov 2021​
211 (6 months, 28 days |≈30 weeks)
27.2
19.7​
1.70
7.49
EPI79436 (4:36)19 (3.8K$)≈2.6 (new)
4 Mar 2022​
105 (3 months, 13 days |≈15 weeks)
10.1
7.6
0.34
2.53
EP9≈2000 (<2500)≈160 (195)
in development
133 (4 months, 11 days |≈19 weeks)
16.8
1.27
Complete Table with the help of Holy Bacchus† original post — Being a DIK in development since 3 years, 5 months, 8 day (41 months / 179 weeks / 1,254 days / 30,096 hours)
* 199$ Premium Licensed Music ; Total: 22,288$ — Ratio values exclude EPI ; Ratio: (Renders/Days + SecondsAnimations/Days) [Average: 24.0 ; Last Two: 28.5 (+19%)]
Renders/Days [Average: 19.8 ; Last Two: 21.3 (+8%)] — Animations/Days [Average: 1.15 ; Last Two: 1.62 (+41%)] — SecondsAnimations/Days [Average: 4.19 ; Last Two: 7.12 (+69%)]


(y) Thumb up to well made Casiope DIK Walkthrough.
Thanks as always for the great work you do!:)
An interesting observation. Episode 1 has 1301 renders and 51 animations. Takes up 1.1 GB
Interlude has 794 renders, 36 animations. There is much less content, but Interlude weighs 2.6GB.
And it's understandable why (not just because of the music of all 8 episodes in the Interlude menu player). The leap in graphics quality is huge - it's like two games from different generations of gaming systems. The interlude is graphically very cool. It doesn't surprise me that the animations in Episode 9 are slower - their weight and quality will likely be higher than what we've seen before. It looks like the DPC will have to buy an entire mining farm for rendering in order to do it faster.:LOL:

I'll add some personal thoughts. I don't think we're halfway there. Probably 60-70% If he is already talking about testing, I think most of it is already done and many parts of the game represent the whole picture.
 

zeroidk

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Jan 2, 2020
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Bro for a second I thought he was talk about the release, got a little heart attack there, but its nie reading that hes making good progress.
I mean it's probably going to be releasing closer to October than not given the guy that has been tracking all the progress here and it being a Halloween episode. We prob have a good ~2.5 months to go at the least. Even after all the rendering still in queue DPC needs to catch up play testing/corrections/mini-game stuff as he said.
 

felicemastronzo

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May 17, 2020
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No, it just means it only took one post to bring all of the Maya stans out of the woodwork and back into the light. The hibernating bears have emerged after a long, very cold winter. The floodgates have been opened all because of one post from a bro with balls of iron.
they had been rather abstinent for a while, not even repeatedly remembering the times when she was "the most hated" had moved anything :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:


you are a benefactor, not the hero we deserve, but the one we needed :cool:
 

Matt2012021

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have no hate for any of the ladies but one zoey hoping when we meet her there is a option to just keep on walking by never looking back maya for sure in my top 3 with sage and jill
 
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Cabin Fever

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Relax, DPC isn't going to force you to be with Zoey and dump your chosen girl from episode 8. He didn't do it with Anna from Acting Lessons, much less in BaDIK.
I'm not saying it will or won't happen, but it always amuses me when people take a single precedence as confirmation that things will or will not happen. A single instance isn't even a trend. And there is this little concept called "doing things differently".

I mean, if DPC isn't free to do things differently and BADIK has to follow AL's precedence, then we all should be wondering which house will catch on fire and who we should be saving.
 
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