mightybored

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I do like that some routes straight up have scenes (even outside of the girl-specific stuff) that the player may not otherwise see that still adds to the game.

Like how if you choose to hit up Sage instead of Jill, you get more interactions with and related to the other HOTs. If you're after Quinn, you see a couple of Jill's friends making out in public. You can straight up miss dialog scenes with the strippers or even Bella depending on choices too. Heck, I'd argue that a chunk of the game's enjoyment comes from the twitter-alike where you're commenting or liking people's posts and engaging with the characters that way, and that's almost entirely miss-able aside from one or two instances.
 

lordranhorny

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DIKs, i have a question,
is there any way to cheat in the game or use console commands to get the 2 points necessary from practicing Jill's song and be able to help her at the recital?
I would start from episode 6 but going through the mansion repair again? man, what a chore.
Well, i've searched around the internet for at least 2 hours and i don't seem to find any easy fix for this.
Its either backtracking to episode 6 and replaying all those parties and choices that will at least take me half a day, dang.
Well, i was on a Sage/Quinn/Jade route, so i hope i won't fuck that up too.
Sorry Jill, next time will be.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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People seem to misunderstand my post, it seems to have snowballed into something else. It was strictly about income and what happened with the Prophets. The point was, DPC earns enough to live a really comfortable life, unless he has other habits going on which burns through a lot of his income.

I think the Prophets issue isn't that they don't want to be associated with BaDIK, but they realized they can make money out of it. DPC said he contacted about using the songs when he started developing the game, didn't he? They didn't mind because it's a niche sector of videogaming and they didn't mind it that much, but eventually saw that it became successful so they put their foot in their mouths. So either way, they probably asked for money and DPC basically said no, because the Prophets themselves went back on their words going from free to use to asking for money for their songs to be used. That's kind of a slimeball thing to do. But if they really asked for money so DPC can use the songs, especially the opening song that when you hear it you think of BaDIK and he refused, then that's on him.
The fact is that we do not know how much they asked for the use of their songs. DPC uses commercial songs and pays for them (some songs in the game are paid).
So the reason he didn't want to pay could be a bad deal. They could ask 50-100k for each song or a fixed percentage of sales, and this is not objective. In business, even if you're a billionaire, you won't overpay an extra cent if you think the price is too high.
 

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Well, i've searched around the internet for at least 2 hours and i don't seem to find any easy fix for this.
Its either backtracking to episode 6 and replaying all those parties and choices that will at least take me half a day, dang.
Well, i was on a Sage/Quinn/Jade route, so i hope i won't fuck that up too.
Sorry Jill, next time will be.
As you no doubt discovered, you need to practise a minimum of two out of the three opportunities to be able to help Jill at the recital.

In terms of saving time on different playthroughs, turning off mini games helps a lot with this. You can also speed through huge chunks of the game quickly holding down cntrl, if you know what choices you’re going for. Freeroams can also be dealt with very quickly, again if you only do the minimum requirements necessary to get in and out.

Going from the beginning you could probably get a Jill save done within 20 minutes.
 

Lostanddamned

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The fact is that we do not know how much they asked for the use of their songs. DPC uses commercial songs and pays for them (some songs in the game are paid).
So the reason he didn't want to pay could be a bad deal. They could ask 50-100k for each song or a fixed percentage of sales, and this is not objective. In business, even if you're a billionaire, you won't overpay an extra cent if you think the price is too high.
Nah I don't think they asked for 50-100k, especially considering the band has broken up now. Like WCW used to pay 100k a year to the Jimi Hendrix Estate to use Voodoo Child for Hulk Hogan and that was a good deal because Eric was smart about it. You know how much does it cost to use 30 seconds of Voodoo Child today? Something in the 5 million range.
 

lordranhorny

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I just scanned through the renpy code on my Jill save and could't find anything. If you're on a DIK route now you may as well finish that then start a CHICK route for Maya/Josy, Bella and Jill anyway, can always skip minigames if you want to speedrun it.
Thanks for checking the code for me, i don't know how that stuff works.
Ill do as you say and start a new game with the mini games disabled, it will feel as a lesser experience but what can i do, its my fault.
Thanks again.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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Nah I don't think they asked for 50-100k, especially considering the band has broken up now. Like WCW used to pay 100k a year to the Jimi Hendrix Estate to use Voodoo Child for Hulk Hogan and that was a good deal because Eric was smart about it. You know how much does it cost to use 30 seconds of Voodoo Child today? Something in the 5 million range.
30 seconds for $5 million is definitely overpriced. It may be a very popular song, but this deal will not be profitable even for Rockstar Games or Activision
 
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Lostanddamned

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30 seconds for $5 million is definitely overpriced. It may be a very popular song, but this deal will not be profitable even for Rockstar Games or Activision
For the same reason you don't hear Michael Jackson songs on the radio that much anymore, licensing them for use is ridiculously expensive and not profitable in any way.

But Eric was smart with Voodoo Child, one wrestling hasn't reached it's peak yet, so the Jimi Hendrix Estate had no idea who Eric Bischoff or WCW was, so they agreed to 100k/year, and two - at that point Eric had 300-350 shows a year, so he just pays the 100k upfront and can play the song on every show and PPV. The result? In 1997 WCW turned in a profit of 50-70 million $ range.
 
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Jonboy80

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"Compressed" is the key word which explains your problems.
Odd that it took up to the end of E7 to be an issue. I sure as hell can't waste 20GB of space on my tablet for one VN. Sounds like it's an issue in the Android build too for a couple other people too.

Sadly, that just breaks the game completely. I get a duplicate line error, or something. I pasted it in that fixes thread found in his sig.
 

Geralt From Rivia

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For the same reason you don't hear Michael Jackson songs on the radio that much anymore, licensing them for use is ridiculously expensive and not profitable in any way.

But Eric was smart with Voodoo Child, one wrestling hasn't reached it's peak yet, so the Jimi Hendrix Estate had no idea who Eric Bischoff or WCW was, so they agreed to 100k/year, and two - at that point Eric had 300-350 shows a year, so he just pays the 100k upfront and can play the song on every show and PPV. The result? In 1997 WCW turned in a profit of 50-70 million $ range.
The most frustrating thing is that the prices for copyright tracks are exorbitant for indie developers. For example, the Offspring songs are just perfect for the BaDIK vibe. But PinkCake will be forced to pay an annual income for their use.
 

shazba

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DIKs, i have a question,
is there any way to cheat in the game or use console commands to get the 2 points necessary from practicing Jill's song and be able to help her at the recital?
I would start from episode 6 but going through the mansion repair again? man, what a chore.
You can use the attached editor to this post (just unzip and run it). Save the game right at the point where Jill says, "(Oh my God... There are so many people in there... It's almost full...)".

Then run the Save Game Editor and open the latest save file, uncheck "Hide Ren'py Dialogs" and search for the following variables:
  • ep4_playedGuitar
  • ep6_diks_guitar_event
  • ep8_diks_guitar_event
and set them to "True" (you only actually need to set 2 of them).

Then choose "Apply Changes" in the editor and then reload your save in the game and you should be good to go.

Alternatively, if you can access the console, at the same point where Jill is freaking out, open the console and type:
  • ep4_playedGuitar = True
  • ep6_diks_guitar_event = True
  • ep8_diks_guitar_event = True
Then continue the game.

Personally, I let her fail, for publicly dumping the mc in the future. :p
 

Ilhares

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People seem to misunderstand my post, it seems to have snowballed into something else. It was strictly about income and what happened with the Prophets.
If I recall correctly from reading the post DPC himself had on this, he had written them to get the OK and they took 4 years to respond, at which point they simply said 'no', even though under the terms the songs are licensed, DPC has every right to actually use them. But they said no, and he's respecting that. Probably because they also come from his country, and maybe there's legal worries he wants to avoid.
Odd that it took up to the end of E7 to be an issue. I sure as hell can't waste 20GB of space on my tablet for one VN. Sounds like it's an issue in the Android build too for a couple other people too.
DPC doesn't code his VN to work on Android. He intended it specifically for the PC platform.

Personally, I let her fail, for publicly dumping the mc in the future. :p
But Shazba, if you help her, then Bianca and Amelia will see you being a badass, even if you get dumped. BRANCHING PATHS, BABY!
 
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Ottoeight

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Odd that it took up to the end of E7 to be an issue. I sure as hell can't waste 20GB of space on my tablet for one VN. Sounds like it's an issue in the Android build too for a couple other people too.
You told us that you merged the 0.8.x patch into the compressed version: this is the problem.

You can't, of course.

Anyway, mods, android and compressed versions aren't made by the Author, therefore as any OP post tells:

* This unofficial port/version is not released by developer, download at your own risk.
 

Jonboy80

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You told us that you merged the 0.8.x patch into the compressed version: this is the problem.

You can't, of course.

Anyway, mods, android and compressed versions aren't made by the Author, therefore as any OP post tells:

* This unofficial port/version is not released by developer, download at your own risk.
Yeah, I get that. I'm gonna futz around with this a bit longer. Was hoping there was some knowledge floating around out there regarding a fix. If worse comes to worst, I'll put it on my PC and connect to it via the remote desktop.
 

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Jill: I have a present for you hehehe
AchedCroissant: Yes? :love: :love: Wich is the gift? :eek::eek::oops::oops::love::love: (Oh my god, she will finally give me her butthole after 8 episodes of jerking me off thinking about Zoey, it was worth it)
Jill: Here :LOL:... I hope you like it :giggle:
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AchedCroissant: Oh Jill hehe I love it when you make that face (DAMN HOW I HATE WHEN YOU MAKE THAT FACE)
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AchedCroissant: I'm glad you're my girlfriend I don't think there won't be any blue problems in the future and that I cheat on you with her BTW how is your friend Bianca?
Jill has one advantage over Zoey. You won't have to read a paid advertisement about a dead granny when you tit fuck her. :ROFLMAO:
 

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But no, the post he made said nothing about the Friday Prophets asking him for money - he has paid for plenty of songs.
Premiumbeats offer 5 free licensed songs per month at $65 subscription, he is definitely not breaking his wallet with the music so far. On the other hand is less insane than Drifty that was in talks for 10k for someone to make music for his next game, so there's that.
 
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