VN Ren'Py Being a DIK [v0.11.1] [DrPinkCake]

[gamingdevil800]

Unpopular opinion, but... I always believed that creating an “Other” route was a mistake, episode 10 will be the first plot-focused episode after “Crossroads” and DPC is already struggling to handle that route.

People need to understand that not all game girls can be given special attention. There's a reason why there's a divide between main girls and side girls. The plot was supposed to be focused on the main girls and that's it.

DPC will soon realize that he is biting off more than he can chew. So get ready... some characters will pay the price for this. There is no possibility that the girls from the “Others” route have their plots well worked when the author wants to tell the whole story in 16 episodes.

Others isn't even the problem forcing a choice in episode 8 and locking everything else off is what increased the workload. So instead of just Chick, DIK and Neutral the game got split off into Chick Sage, Chick Bella, Chick Jill, Chick Maya/Josy, Chick Others, DIK Sage, DIK Bella, DIK Others then Neutral paths...

If he eliminated Others then there would only be one DIK focused path aka Sage cause Bella isn't really a Chick character. Then Others is till necessary for those that never engaged in relationships with any of the main LI's. I'd say Others is considerably less work too he can pick and choose who shows up each episode. However now e.g. there needs to be a sex scene with every other LI each episode otherwise e.g. Bella fans would go two years without content. It use to be Bella or Sage etc wouldn't have a sex scene each episode but now he's literally forced to do it.

I thought DPC wouldn't force a relationship choice till the very end of the game like most other VN's do to save themselves a headache

 

[Orgitas]

Call it hypocrisy if you want, but a girl being loose and a guy getting laid ain't the same, and everyone knows that.

If both a guy, and a girl, sleep with 20 odd people in the first month, or so, of college... Pretty sure it makes them both whores. Equality, yay!

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

this has never been a problem for DPC, call it replayability if you like

I still wouldn't replay a run for a change of scene
I've never seen the famous scene with Maya and Josy where you do everything Josy, and I'm missing several of Madame's content too

That's my point yeah. Let's say we tell someone that Neutral can get everything for every girl, and then they find some content locked behind affinity/status. That's why I don't think it is a good recommendation. I hope he doesn't start locking different content under different affinities/statuses for the same girl, that would be mean

I don't know which Maya scene you mean.

 

[saynotoNTR]

Others isn't even the problem forcing a choice in episode 8 and locking everything else off is what increased the workload. So instead of just Chick, DIK and Neutral the game got split off into Chick Sage, Chick Bella, Chick Jill, Chick Maya/Josy, Chick Others, DIK Sage, DIK Bella, DIK Others then Neutral paths...

If he eliminated Others then there would only be one DIK focused path aka Sage cause Bella isn't really a Chick character. Then Others is till necessary for those that never engaged in relationships with any of the main LI's. I'd say Others is considerably less work too he can pick and choose who shows up each episode. However now e.g. there needs to be a sex scene with every other LI each episode otherwise e.g. Bella fans would go two years without content. It use to be Bella or Sage etc wouldn't have a sex scene each episode but now he's literally forced to do it.

I thought DPC wouldn't force a relationship choice till the very end of the game like most other VN's do to save themselves a headache

The truth is, the CHICK/DIK system when it comes to girls is something that doesn't work, at least not yet. We're heading into episode 10, the only scenes where this system mattered when it came to the love interests is when we had the option to choke Sage during anal sex and when we had the option to perform 69 with Bella.

This CHICK/DIK system is flawed when used with girls. I don't think it's worth being DIK just to choke Sage during sex or being a CHICK and acting like a pussy to do 69 with Bella.

 

[Christophorus II]

I can't seem to find the hidden magazine in Tybalt's room during the MC's and Derek's break-in.

If I remember correctly it must be under the logs or Jill's bed drawer

 

[Fapparition]

The truth is, the CHICK/DIK system when it comes to girls is something that doesn't work, at least not yet. We're heading into episode 10, the only scenes where this system mattered when it came to the love interests is when we had the option to choke Sage during anal sex and when we had the option to perform 69 with Bella.

This CHICK/DIK system is flawed when used with girls. I don't think it's worth being DIK just to choke Sage during sex or being a CHICK and acting like a pussy to do 69 with Bella.

There is a possibility though. Since now MC has permanent affinity we won't be able to chose opposite affinity desicion and we already saw how those major choises showed up with side girls (Riona, Heather).

 

[met4lsp4wn]

Since it is somewhere in Tybalt's room, I guessed you are speaking of the free roam event at the Alpha Nu Omega mansion (episode 5).

These are the magazines you can find in our dearest Tyball's room during that event.

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P. S. The screenshot is from the officlal guide for season 2 of the game, BTW, which must be linked in the OP, in case you want to pick a copy of it.

Thanks I figured it out.

 

[Deleted member 5767739]

To put it bluntly, this is bullshit and gibberish that I often hear from the incel movement, all sorts of "ProudBoys" and far right groups, to put it simply - guys who can't get laid.

 

[felicemastronzo]

That's my point yeah. Let's say we tell someone that Neutral can get everything for every girl, and then they find some content locked behind affinity/status. That's why I don't think it is a good recommendation. I hope he doesn't start locking different content under different affinities/statuses for the same girl, that would be mean

I don't know which Maya scene you mean.

the advice on neutral affinity only makes sense for the first two seasons (and in any case does not allow one to see everything anyway), it is now outdated.

I refer to this scene (seventh chapter)

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

the advice on neutral affinity only makes sense for the first two seasons (and in any case does not allow one to see everything anyway), it is now outdated.

I refer to this scene (seventh chapter)
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Well, I'm a bit lacking on the Maya scene department . The only one I remembered was Sage in the latest one.

 

[dalli_x]

I know, I know. What I meant is that it would have been nice that an MC with neutral affinity also got his share of exclusive dialogue lines instead of being an exact copy of a chick MC in that regard.

I made a screenshot from the walkthrough. This is clearly written with which personality traits DPC defines CHICK and DIK. The joke is so that DPC has not defined any personality traits for a NEUTRAL affinity. Why?



There is no neutrality in personality traits of people because every person has his own ego and thus is next to himself first. A person can make a neutral decision in a situation, but that is not a personality trait, it is a decision made based on a person's personality traits.

As a reason for DPC using the same lines of dialogue for NEUTRAL and CHICK is simple and told to us by the MC himself in EP5. The MC, from the story, is on his way to being an adult. That's why he's in college. CHICK (nicer/calmer/more mature).

The DIK MC (meaner/edgier/impulsive), on the other hand, contradicts what is written in EP5 and therefore needs separate dialogues because the player has actively decided not to grow up.

 

[ChipLecsap]

To put it bluntly, this is bullshit and gibberish that I often hear from the incel movement, all sorts of "ProudBoys" and far right groups, to put it simply - guys who can't get laid.

let's not go there dude, because this comment on the other hand stink with leftist lunacy

 

[osculim]

Well, I'm a bit lacking on the Maya scene department . The only one I remembered was Sage in the latest one.

If memory serves I think Bella also have one. With maya if you look closely at the start ive noticed very slight differences in some scenes even non event scenes for instance when you get tazed the scene is slightly longer depending on where you sit on the scale. Most of these are super short and super easy to miss.

 

[KАRАMBA]

On this gif, ladies and gentlemen, you can see a typical follower of such ideas.

the guy from the gif reminds me of someone...

 

[ChipLecsap]

If memory serves I think Bella also have one. With maya if you look closely at the start ive noticed very slight differences in some scenes even non event scenes for instance when you get tazed the scene is slightly longer depending on where you sit on the scale. Most of these are super short and super easy to miss.

so far some of the difference for Chick vs Dik , and not including the ones that are available with Neutral, as far as I remember:

Josy first animated scene on the bench in episode 1 has two version in order to have 100% you have to have once Chick and once Dik status
You can Hug, Maya if you have Chick Status, in episode 1. or check her panties if you have Dik Status. also, you can peek at her while she dressing if you have Dik status, in episode 1

the Quinn and Cammy scene to fully unlock you have to have Dik status, same as with Sage first Boob Job scene.
the first DnG also have difference depending on the Chick Dik status. " Spank Sally hard "
and the Cammy/ Mona sex, require a Hug Dik status too.

The affinity differences first comes into play in episode 4. You have a Shower scene with Jill if you are Chick , or a some extra moment with Quinn if you are Dik.
Then Maya and Bella have bonus lewd position, which is important for the full lewd scene in the gallery, otherwise it's shown 50%.
and Bella also have a conversation with you in episode 9, and if you have Chick affinity, there is an extra option there, I don't know what this does.
and of course Sage's bonus lewd position during sex in episode 9, if you have Dik affinity.

 

[Sony676]

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I've worked on static renders all week and I've gotten through several scenes. It's been solely story-related scenes and I've been working on Bella, Sage, Josy, Maya, Jill, Quinn, Riona, the DIKs, and more. I've worked plenty on clothes and environments and posed around 230 renders and one SFW animation this week.
I checked the script to see how many written scenes lacked art. I counted 13 written story scenes ranging from short to long left to pose static renders for and three free-roam events that are partially written but without art.
Checking the different branches, there is work left there as well. Out of all branches, I've been busiest with the Others' branch so far. The main girl branches all need more content, which I haven't written yet but have planned.
Comparing my current numbers to episode 9, we get:

• 44% static renders (2237/5037)
• 52% writing
• 49% animations (148/303)

The animations in my render queue are now below 40, and in a few days, the more demanding lewd scenes I mentioned in an earlier status update will be completed. I believe the render speed of the animations will increase shortly after that.
This likely means I have 2-3 more weeks of other work before returning to posing lewd scenes. I will be spending most of this time posing static renders but also doing some writing.

At the moment, it's hard to say how big this episode will be, and it's not necessarily fair to compare it to the biggest episode in the game like I just did.
At least it gives us all a feeling of being close to 50% completed overall, which I also believe it is. Please take the numbers and percentages with a grain of salt.
You can look forward to another preview next week, the first preview of Zoey's special render set and more of the Clone series. 17 girls remain in the Clone series; hopefully, most of your favorite girls are covered with it.

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Have a nice weekend

Dr PinkCake

Episode 9 might have been the biggest episode but it was also by far the weakest one to be honest. I don't really see him release a new episode in June/July. For his workflow this would be way too "fast". It kinda sucks to read those reports if you know it'll take an eternity anyways. Still don't get why the BIGGEST patreon renpy game doesn't hire workers to speed up the process. Dude has over 13.000 patrons yet he insists on working all alone...Dr. Pinkcake could still be in creative control but others could take SO much work from him. I at least would and DO expect the biggest patreon erotic game to put some money into speeding up the process of releasing updates.

p.s.: He should really consider to at least hire some voice actors. If not for all of the text it would at least add something spicy to the sex scenes etc. THAT and actual sex "sounds". We're heading towards episode 10 and there hasn't been anything close to that. Games with less money and attention added stuff like that and it worked out pretty good. With the money Dr. Pinkcake earns he could EASILY hire talented people.

 

[ChipLecsap]

I made a screenshot from the walkthrough. This is clearly written with which personality traits DPC defines CHICK and DIK. The joke is so that DPC has not defined any personality traits for a NEUTRAL affinity.

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No buddy, the actual Joke that the "CHICK (nicer/calmer/more mature) " is actually comes off as a Pussy ass Beta , immature, unconfident , whiny wimp bitch.
Who is possibly the biggest asshole who ruining Jill and Bella friendship. . and then he is feels sorry for himself for being confused

 

[openup212]

Just here to say that no matter how long we wait, it will always be worth it
So let him cook

 

[Wizard_Shiryuu]

Episode 9 might have been the biggest episode but it was also by far the weakest one to be honest. I don't really see him release a new episode in June/July. For his workflow this would be way too "fast". It kinda sucks to read those reports if you know it'll take an eternity anyways. Still don't get why the BIGGEST patreon renpy game doesn't hire workers to speed up the process. Dude has over 13.000 patrons yet he insists on working all alone...Dr. Pinkcake could still be in creative control but others could take SO much work from him. I at least would and DO expect the biggest patreon erotic game to put some money into speeding up the process of releasing updates.

p.s.: He should really consider to at least hire some voice actors. If not for all of the text it would at least add something spicy to the sex scenes etc. THAT and actual sex "sounds". We're heading towards episode 10 and there hasn't been anything close to that. Games with less money and attention added stuff like that and it worked out pretty good. With the money Dr. Pinkcake earns he could EASILY hire talented people.

This game did have voice actors at some point

Me personally that's not something I actually would like, I think.

 

[Cab-boe]

Dude has over 13.000 patrons yet he insists on working all alone

The people giving him money are happy with things as they are.
Introducing third parties will almost definitely cause problems, just a consequence of working as a group on an artistic project.
The guy puts out updates regularly (not frequently, but regularly), they're cohesive and extensive.
Why fix what isn't broken?
The VA thing is a shout though. There are a ton of polish tasks that can be done, but he's working through the narrative to a standard he's comfortable with. Maybe he'll do them for a 1.0