She was holding back her virginity for that special someone she became romantically involved with. This was a hallmark trait of her character -- it defined her. You don't find it more weird that at some point she is just gonna say "Screw it!" and give it to Max without any romantic feelings?
DS why you give up? you say feedback is great is it really when you don't really care much. i say this not be mean i say case i seen you on few times on here and yet every time its the same thing. you read think whatever and move on to your thing whats the point of feedback don't listen its like you hear just trying to kill sometime. and nice to see you on here and read but are you really getting it tho. people loved lisa now hate her in someway not all some. and then some people hate alice more then before. and i can go on with ann and kira so let me get some feed back as to why stop loving this game or stop trying at least. why did stop giving the MC choices it was the more fun when choice what to say and wrong to make alice black mail us not after all work had to put in her. and lisa holy shit man that was wrong to make back stab you after trying so hard to the BF it seem alice is the BF now you just asshole.It's okay to hate, I'm ok with it from the beginning of BB
Feedback is great, can't say that I'm fully agree with it btw. I guess I want to have some better way to gather it. Apparently, people are sending messages that they like the game via Patreon, but no critics at all.
Your going to disappoint a lot of people here. Some of your biggest defenders, want a romance option. I don't care, as long Max doesn't treat his family like shit.
that is true but but should make you think what to do next and do your thing make ppl love the chrs not hate them
What can I say... I can understand your point of view, but it was quite hard to write script. Thats it.
Probably, but it wasn't planned from the beginning. I tried, mostly because people asking me for it, but looks like it doesn't work with me in this particular setting.
I... just... give me a moment. My brain needs to process this.
Well, sounds like a pretty good idea to have a poll. Can't promise that it will definitely change my mind, but I'll be very curious to see results.@FXM - You've made your point but you were being rude about that. There's better ways to make your point heard. I'm leaving it up because @DarkSilver actually had a perfect response to that. Don't be rude again.
- I guess DarkSilver is saying that it's hard to continue writing Lisa's route because of a personal belief that anal doesn't doesn't lead to a relationship. Well, some people are actually like that. If you can't imagine it or write it convincingly, it's better to not write at all. I got it.
Can I suggest you poll your staff, DarkSilver? Can you see if anyone can tie in a romance route for max/lisa? I know it's your story and you're in charge of it. What if there's an event with Lisa that forces Max to change his behavior and as a result, Lisa does consider a relationship? Maybe a staff could write a short route and you can internally vote in it? Just my suggestion.
Hell yeah!!! Lisa should grow in a romantic light. Or else there will be no growth in her character.
I think the issue is again, most men, even men into BDSM do NOT like being subs. Most men in BDSM are doms, that's just how it works. That's not to say that roles can't change, many people shift at certain points, either to try out the other side, or because that's just what suits them better. In other words, it's really not the shift as much as how being submissive was thrown at the player.Hell yeah!!! Lisa should grow in a romantic light. Or else there will be no growth in her character.
Btw, I appreciate the growth of Alice's character in a Dom from sub. If anyone has watch 50 shades of grey, u would remember that the male protagonist was a sub before he emerged as the Dom that he is now.
And I am referring to this movie so that DS would take that as a hint for furthering Lisa romance plot.
I loved every update , we are all welcome to have our opinions. But in the end the game devs are the Masters of the plot. We should respect that.
Go Lisa....
It's a good point, actually. Maybe you are right.
Hmmm... I believe that true.
I don't disagree. But clearly that stuff hits people hard. I don't have an instinctual aversion to being a sub in a game, and even I was turned off by how Alice was handled. For many it's a gut reaction. I can deal with NTR, sometimes in context, but I don't really actively seek it out. Others simply can't, the jealousy negative emotions get them on a primal level. Being made to be submissive can create a similar response. There's nothing wrong with that, in many ways we are hard wired to feel that way. But it is definitely something to consider.
The numbers if I remember correctly are about 2/3 dom to 1/3 sub with some mobility between roles for men. Women are almost exactly the opposite with 2/3 being exclusively or mainly sub, with a little under 1/3 being exclusively or mainly doms.
Lisas wish to get sex-ed from mom will open some oportunities, too! I think DS is creating this story well. But he must find a way Ann admiting she wants to do more with max. She is already making porn with him, sucking him and teasing him all the time and now it's time for her to admit she wants more, wich could open romantic moments with max and ann. She should allow him to lick her and maybe some titfuck action. Fucking her might be to early now, but it has to happen.
