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VN Ren'Py Abandoned Birthday Present [v0.96] [Spooky666]

3.00 star(s) 11 Votes

kurupt87

Member
Jul 23, 2017
125
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Don't worry about the people wanting romance rather than rape, their intelligence is questionable.
A romantic relationship with a family member is so much more fucked up than a one-sided rapey one that it's on a whole different scale - especially between a parent and child.
Maybe a writer could swing a believable and not fucked-up-beyond-all-belief incestuous sibling relationship (it'd just be super unhealthy) but, there's no way that a parent/child romantic relationship isn't entirely fucked up.
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This board is surprisingly simp-y (reflected in most m protags being simp af) given its purpose so the rape (and to a lesser degree, maledom) hate is usual for here.
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Personally, I enjoyed the game and appreciate its kinks. Short, self contained and kinky af.
Though, I'm totally a buttstuff guy and the lack of anal in the game (& the tags) almost made me skip without entering the thread. A combination of the other tags did bring me in though and I'm glad I landed here.
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Also, the thoughts of the father that you made the "Conscience" character, it's not your conscience.
Conscience is simply the process of asking yourself if something you're about to do is morally right or wrong and, afterwards, the deployment of the relevant parts of all three parts of your psyche to bother or praise you about the action that you did or did not take. In other words, listen to your fucking conscience if you want to like yourself.
Your conscience supplies you with yes, no and the mental equivalent of a pat on the head or a kick up the arse. It doesn't supply you with a coherent and logical thought-chain, it only supplies a judgement & associated reward/punishment.
The thinking bit that you are quoting is going to be your un- or sub- or just plain conscious -ness.
In most cases, it'd be the consciousness. Next would be the subconscious (head voice #2) with the unconscious in a very distant 3rd.
iirc Disco Elysium's (neat little indie game that's definitely worth playing) dream sequences are split up thusly.
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But, tldr, Conscience is just wrong.
The father's conscience would be (normally screaming but presumably we're at the end of a long and lost internal battle) pestering him about his actions being wrong.
And he'd always consider it wrong (just to a far lesser degree than a healthy person), as soon as it is no longer wrong it is no longer perverse and if it's not perverse then it's not interesting and he won't do it anymore.
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However, labeling this dialogue as Consciousness (or one the other two) is clunky. I'd go with Thoughts or Thinking or just plain italics.
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tldr#2
Don't reinvent the wheel, italics is the accepted norm for internal monologue - coloured for the relevant character if multiple PoV.
 

galora

Cute as a button
Donor
Oct 15, 2019
285
325
Don't worry about the people wanting romance rather than rape, their intelligence is questionable.
A romantic relationship with a family member is so much more fucked up than a one-sided rapey one that it's on a whole different scale - especially between a parent and child.
Maybe a writer could swing a believable and not fucked-up-beyond-all-belief incestuous sibling relationship (it'd just be super unhealthy) but, there's no way that a parent/child romantic relationship isn't entirely fucked up.
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This board is surprisingly simp-y (reflected in most m protags being simp af) given its purpose so the rape (and to a lesser degree, maledom) hate is usual for here.
-
Personally, I enjoyed the game and appreciate its kinks. Short, self contained and kinky af.
Though, I'm totally a buttstuff guy and the lack of anal in the game (& the tags) almost made me skip without entering the thread. A combination of the other tags did bring me in though and I'm glad I landed here.
-
Also, the thoughts of the father that you made the "Conscience" character, it's not your conscience.
Conscience is simply the process of asking yourself if something you're about to do is morally right or wrong and, afterwards, the deployment of the relevant parts of all three parts of your psyche to bother or praise you about the action that you did or did not take. In other words, listen to your fucking conscience if you want to like yourself.
Your conscience supplies you with yes, no and the mental equivalent of a pat on the head or a kick up the arse. It doesn't supply you with a coherent and logical thought-chain, it only supplies a judgement & associated reward/punishment.
The thinking bit that you are quoting is going to be your un- or sub- or just plain conscious -ness.
In most cases, it'd be the consciousness. Next would be the subconscious (head voice #2) with the unconscious in a very distant 3rd.
iirc Disco Elysium's (neat little indie game that's definitely worth playing) dream sequences are split up thusly.
-
But, tldr, Conscience is just wrong.
The father's conscience would be (normally screaming but presumably we're at the end of a long and lost internal battle) pestering him about his actions being wrong.
And he'd always consider it wrong (just to a far lesser degree than a healthy person), as soon as it is no longer wrong it is no longer perverse and if it's not perverse then it's not interesting and he won't do it anymore.
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However, labeling this dialogue as Consciousness (or one the other two) is clunky. I'd go with Thoughts or Thinking or just plain italics.
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tldr#2
Don't reinvent the wheel, italics is the accepted norm for internal monologue - coloured for the relevant character if multiple PoV.
Dayuumm! Worth reading, and definitely worth more than a like!
I can survive without anal though rape should, if performed by a perfectionist, indeed include some buttstuff :LOL:

And everything else is just spot on
 

DrDerpington

Active Member
Oct 6, 2017
732
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Did dev finally fix the menu bug?? (when you right click in 0.51 then the game doesnt go to menu, but instead it opens bug)
 

berny

Active Member
Jun 8, 2017
575
1,146
Don't worry about the people wanting romance rather than rape, their intelligence is questionable.
A romantic relationship with a family member is so much more fucked up than a one-sided rapey one that it's on a whole different scale - especially between a parent and child.
Maybe a writer could swing a believable and not fucked-up-beyond-all-belief incestuous sibling relationship (it'd just be super unhealthy) but, there's no way that a parent/child romantic relationship isn't entirely fucked up.
-
This board is surprisingly simp-y (reflected in most m protags being simp af) given its purpose so the rape (and to a lesser degree, maledom) hate is usual for here.
-
Personally, I enjoyed the game and appreciate its kinks. Short, self contained and kinky af.
Though, I'm totally a buttstuff guy and the lack of anal in the game (& the tags) almost made me skip without entering the thread. A combination of the other tags did bring me in though and I'm glad I landed here.
-
Also, the thoughts of the father that you made the "Conscience" character, it's not your conscience.
Conscience is simply the process of asking yourself if something you're about to do is morally right or wrong and, afterwards, the deployment of the relevant parts of all three parts of your psyche to bother or praise you about the action that you did or did not take. In other words, listen to your fucking conscience if you want to like yourself.
Your conscience supplies you with yes, no and the mental equivalent of a pat on the head or a kick up the arse. It doesn't supply you with a coherent and logical thought-chain, it only supplies a judgement & associated reward/punishment.
The thinking bit that you are quoting is going to be your un- or sub- or just plain conscious -ness.
In most cases, it'd be the consciousness. Next would be the subconscious (head voice #2) with the unconscious in a very distant 3rd.
iirc Disco Elysium's (neat little indie game that's definitely worth playing) dream sequences are split up thusly.
-
But, tldr, Conscience is just wrong.
The father's conscience would be (normally screaming but presumably we're at the end of a long and lost internal battle) pestering him about his actions being wrong.
And he'd always consider it wrong (just to a far lesser degree than a healthy person), as soon as it is no longer wrong it is no longer perverse and if it's not perverse then it's not interesting and he won't do it anymore.
-
However, labeling this dialogue as Consciousness (or one the other two) is clunky. I'd go with Thoughts or Thinking or just plain italics.
-
tldr#2
Don't reinvent the wheel, italics is the accepted norm for internal monologue - coloured for the relevant character if multiple PoV.
That post actually made me laugh because I had similar thoughts while rummaging through this site in the past. I'm not saying I agree with everything you said, but I also think a romance between father and daughter is just as bad. Everyone knows rape in real life is despicable and horrible and no one in their right mind would ever justify it.
A romantic relationship between a parent and child, especially with a naive and easily influenceable "young adult", on the other hand is so much worse, because it is often depicted in a very positive way. That's just creepy.
But, everything is fantasy here, so let everybody enjoy whatever they want and trust that everybody knows the difference between fiction and reality.
 
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kurupt87

Member
Jul 23, 2017
125
157
That post actually made me laugh, becasue I had similar thoughts while reading this site in the past. I'm not saying I agree to everything you said, but I also think a romance between father and daughter is just as bad. Everyone knows rape in real life is despicable and horrible no one in their right mind would ever justify it.
A romantic relationship between a parent and child, especially with a naive and easily influenceable "young adult", on the other hand is so much worse, because it is often depicted in a very positive way. That's just creepy.
Exactly, the crux of the romance incest > rape incest argument they make is that because it's all lovey dovey and "consensual" (*cough*grooming*cough*) is that it's less creepy.
So nuts.
So so nuts.
Rape is very bad. Incest rape is much worse. Parent/child incest grooming into consensual relationship goes flying past that into the next dimension of awful.
But, everything is fantasy here, so let everybody enjoy whatever they want and trust that everybody knows the difference between reality and fantasy.
Totally with you there.
However, when they argue like they do here and in other threads things get squirmy.
It's like, I worry about them and the second part of your point there.
 

DoctorPervic

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
Aug 13, 2019
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Love your work. It is a fun little project, and it is refreshing to see something a bit different then the rest of the games on here. The only thing I would suggest to fix that kind of bothered me was that I could not read some of the text because it was white on white. You need to have a darker background transparency slip. Like renpy has in the start up code. People can hide it by pressing H key if they want to see the action. But it will make all your font much better, in my humble opinion.

Also I am a big Anal fan too. so that would be cool.
 

cooperdk

Engaged Member
Jul 23, 2017
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I am a bit concerned, because the girl's dialogue makes her seem a lot less than 18.
The thing is, this is food for gynophiles, because she SEEMS so much younger.

Example: She hasn't any natural pubic hair. That's only possible for an 18 year old if she has a certain disease, and then she wouldn't have hair on her head either.

I know I'm probably overthinking, but I do believe, in fact, this game MIGHT have legal consequences to play in some countries (including my own). Just for making the girl seem much younger.
 

Noegrets

Member
May 29, 2019
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I am a bit concerned, because the girl's dialogue makes her seem a lot less than 18.
The thing is, this is food for gynophiles, because she SEEMS so much younger.

Example: She hasn't any natural pubic hair. That's only possible for an 18 year old if she has a certain disease, and then she wouldn't have hair on her head either.

I know I'm probably overthinking, but I do believe, in fact, this game MIGHT have legal consequences to play in some countries (including my own). Just for making the girl seem much younger.
The idea was that she had anorexia. Over exercising can cause amenorrhea. I can remove that if it seems too close to the line.
 
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galora

Cute as a button
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Oct 15, 2019
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That post actually made me laugh because I had similar thoughts while rummaging through this site in the past. I'm not saying I agree with everything you said, but I also think a romance between father and daughter is just as bad. Everyone knows rape in real life is despicable and horrible and no one in their right mind would ever justify it.
A romantic relationship between a parent and child, especially with a naive and easily influenceable "young adult", on the other hand is so much worse, because it is often depicted in a very positive way. That's just creepy.
But, everything is fantasy here, so let everybody enjoy whatever they want and trust that everybody knows the difference between fiction and reality.
Exactly, the crux of the romance incest > rape incest argument they make is that because it's all lovey dovey and "consensual" (*cough*grooming*cough*) is that it's less creepy.
So nuts.
So so nuts.
Rape is very bad. Incest rape is much worse. Parent/child incest grooming into consensual relationship goes flying past that into the next dimension of awful.

Totally with you there.
However, when they argue like they do here and in other threads things get squirmy.
It's like, I worry about them and the second part of your point there.
Definitely true, though I might not agree in games.
I do enjoy incest romance in games because it adds tension between the characters without having it appear in the text. I mean the usual landlord/tenant patreon version were so weird before I understood the incest patching culture. The amount of work required from a dev/writer to make a VN a turn on, needs huge amounts of creativity to make the sexual tension palpable.
Rarely in my experience, are father/daughter incest stories about convincing/grooming the girl to give in to the relationship... Mostly the girl and the father understanding they have an attraction for each other then the father teaching the "art of love" to the youngling. Often the girl has had romantic experiences before, just no or little sexual experience.
The boy with 3 sisters, a MILF and dead or evil father scenario is definitely not the same.
 

andy2020

Newbie
Aug 24, 2019
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People are going to ask you to try to tame this down, but I say go all the way with it. The argument of "is grooming your daughter worse than raping them" is... absurd. Most content on this site falls squarely on the side of "holy fuck that person should go to jail for the rest of their life".

But porn is very often about extremes, which is why it's stimulating. Even mainstream porn is this way - everything is exaggerated.

If what you want to build is what's represented here, power to you.
 

DoctorPervic

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
Aug 13, 2019
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People are going to ask you to try to tame this down, but I say go all the way with it. The argument of "is grooming your daughter worse than raping them" is... absurd. Most content on this site falls squarely on the side of "holy fuck that person should go to jail for the rest of their life".

But porn is very often about extremes, which is why it's stimulating. Even mainstream porn is this way - everything is exaggerated.

If what you want to build is what's represented here, power to you.
Yes I have to agree with you. There are some porn and it is all legal, like queen snake, or others that do some REALLY extreme stuff, like pushing needles into each other, or using massive and painfull objects as dildos. It is becoming that the only porn today that is stimulating is the porn that breaks the boundary of normality. Until that becomes normal.
 

Pcdump

Game player
Donor
Mar 21, 2019
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This is a Dutch translation of the story. Copy the script file to the .. \ TheBirthdaypresent-0.51-pc \ game folder and overwrite the file.
 

H1M

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Jun 8, 2017
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There is no reason on this earth you should need 200 characters to vote and review... I will just go with very naughty again...
 
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