Unreal Engine Breeders of the Nephelym [v0.761.52] [DerelictHelmsman]

[Terut]

Can you increase the amount of monsters roaming the breeding ground yet? Or is the number still limited to that small amount of 2 each house?

 

[muschi26]

Can you increase the amount of monsters roaming the breeding ground yet? Or is the number still limited to that small amount of 2 each house?

You can set one per house, for a maximum of twelve total, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[boblicticious]

My main complaint here is that the dev needs to decide what he wants to do with the game. The lovesense thing is probably a smart marketing move to get more money in. But the dev should actually think about a robust progression system. The quests for the gates is certainly one way to do it but level trait system is more of a miss for me.
I would love to see the introduction of "tainted" nephylym that would need to be "purified" in order to advance a race or get other progression (new colors, specific race traits for the mc as an example). This would also help in creating a story or some sort of guide line to direct the working hours put into this. But without beeing a patron you won't achive much on the discord anyway.

Definitely agree with the trait system being a miss for me. What made the predecessor to this game so long-term playable was the way breeding traits eventually accelerated to the point where you are eventually breeding god-tier creatures. The trait that increased trait inheritance chance getting upgraded until the point where mating any 2 creatures with this trait ended in an offspring that had ALL the traits of both parents almost guaranteed. The trait that basically reduced the chance of negative side effects for inbreeding to near negligible levels. The trait that increased the likelihood of inherited traits mutating to a higher trait level when inherited by offspring. And the trait that added a chance that anything that mates with the creature having this trait may learn one or more of the original creature's traits simply through a breeding session.

These gave the mating part of the game more of a feel of investment and payoff if you paid attention and selectively bred for the traits you wanted and avoided the ones you didn't, you eventually got to the point where 80% of the time you mated your creatures the offspring would be extremely valuable and would gain levels fast.

Breeders of the Nephelym on the other hand eventually has your breeding pool stagnate because traits never have a very high chance of being inherited and you've eventually reached the point where all your creatures are related to each other and there's no functioning trait that overrides the negative effects of inbreeding. Moreover, if you mate 2 very good creatures each with a lot of traits with no overlap, the offspring seems to always end up with fewer traits than either of the parents until the point where great grandchildren of really exceptionally traited creatures have only 2 or 3 traits and all of them at the same trait level or worse than their ancestors. So you're constantly having to go out and find more creatures in the wild, which I honestly didn't find to be very much fun.

 

[Flint323]

i'm a little lost on where to use the stars, can someone explain please?

 

[muschi26]

i'm a little lost on where to use the stars, can someone explain please?

Use them to purchase sex positions at the altars of Pawsmaati scattered around the world (one in each region).

 

[Flint323]

Sex positions no longer are bought, and i recall that the star were used to buy upgrades?

 

[muschi26]

Sex positions no longer are bought, and i recall that the star were used to buy upgrades?

Um, unless it was removed just this update, you do have to buy sex positions. You have to find the shrine in the world and pay the favour cost to acquire them. I'm also not aware of any upgrades, but I haven't played this last patch; I'm still on 0.756.3A.

 

[Flint323]

Darn then you now know by me, but still, apart from sex position i remember some upgrades to make more traits to appear, where was that?

 

[muschi26]

Darn then you now know by me, but still, apart from sex position i remember some upgrades to make more traits to appear, where was that?

Better traits appear with higher world level, which is increased by releasing nephelym directly from your barns (there's a button for it when viewing the list of nephs in each barn). You don't use favour (the stars) for this.

 

[Flint323]

Thanks for the lasmessage, now i gotthe hand of it, and lastly, do you recall were to find the fisrt sphereto open a dood? cant recall where i got it the first time

 

[muschi26]

Thanks for the lasmessage, now i gotthe hand of it, and lastly, do you recall were to find the fisrt sphereto open a dood? cant recall where i got it the first time

You can either do Kybele's quest in front of the dragon area (she wants a vulwarg with the meaty trait), or you can steal the orb from the slime in the sewers.

 

[Flint323]

Thanks mate

 

[Evangelion-01]

You can either do Kybele's quest in front of the dragon area (she wants a vulwarg with the meaty trait), or you can steal the orb from the slime in the sewers.

Apparently the required trait is based on the game setting.
If she requests a Futa it's the meaty trait, for a female or male Monster it's a different trait apparently

 

[muschi26]

Apparently the required trait is based on the game setting.
If she requests a Futa it's the meaty trait, for a female or male Monster it's a different trait apparently

I always have futa off, and she asked me for a meaty female IIRC, so IDK.

 

[DaveHoff]

I like how, by saying "continually", he's unintentionally insinuating that all of these things will happen if people stop supporting him. "Support or perish!"

well it takes time and money to create games buddy so ye everygame is support or perish unless they intentionally wanna lose money making a free game...

 

[MrFrosty]

I'm starting to get the impression that people are just going to call ANY game that faces any trouble with development a scam without considering things like a dev team's size and what gave development actually entails. I'm agreeing with the outcry with things like Cloud Meadow, but all things considered this is still better than allot of other porn games TBH.

Also, as I've said before, this site has a link to Nutaku. If you want to complain about scams, complain about how Pay 2 Win allot of it's free to play library is.

 

[DudeBro79]

well it takes time and money to create games buddy so ye everygame is support or perish unless they intentionally wanna lose money making a free game...

Not every game. There are plenty of games out there that aren't being monetized. The most recent in my mind is a Vampire Survivors clone called HoloCure. The lead dev there even refuses to take donations for the project as it would hinder his vision for the game. (Though I imagine it being a fan game, it also CAN'T be monetized without getting into hot water with the copyright holders)

Hell, even here on F95Zone we have games like Brothel King and Venus Club that are in the same situation.

 

[Izuek]

I can't find Pawmaati in enough of these places.

I looked everywhere in Esoteric Glade and can't find any sort of shrine. There's one next door at Cove of Rapture, where you get Waterfall, but that's not officially in the Glade.

Same story for Amorous Hallows. Found Sloth, but not the Pawmaati shrine. Sensual Heavens is pretty small, and no shrine there, either. Nor anything in the Township.

 

[muschi26]

I can't find Pawmaati in enough of these places.

I looked everywhere in Esoteric Glade and can't find any sort of shrine. There's one next door at Cove of Rapture, where you get Waterfall, but that's not officially in the Glade.

Same story for Amorous Hallows. Found Sloth, but not the Pawmaati shrine. Sensual Heavens is pretty small, and no shrine there, either. Nor anything in the Township.

Uh, if I was the one who said there's a shrine in every location, I apologize for that, because you're right, there isn't. I don't remember exactly how many positions there are—five or six?—but there are still only those five or six positions in the game, just spread out to a variety of locations, so indeed, there are locations which don't have shrines.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I'm starting to get the impression that people are just going to call ANY game that faces any trouble with development a scam without considering things like a dev team's size and what gave development actually entails. I'm agreeing with the outcry with things like Cloud Meadow, but all things considered this is still better than allot of other porn games TBH.

Also, as I've said before, this site has a link to Nutaku. If you want to complain about scams, complain about how Pay 2 Win allot of it's free to play library is.

I wouldn't go as far as say the game is a scam, but I consider it fair to say that the game is currently in a stalement duo to the Devs haveing lost focus on what they intend to achieve, based on promisses of shorttime profit.
The game was meant to be a modern application of the Breeder games of the past (like the Scam project breeding season and the evidence that it was such had been given).
It started with promise, but at some point the Devs seemed to have moved away of the breeding aspect to their current approach.
People that got interested in the project by the original design are feeling that mechanics have only worsened and the game seems to head into a totally different direction now.
The low probabilities for breeding and inheritance of stats and traits, combined with an unhealthy grindy Levelup system really makes this game feel like an unwanted kind of grinder.
While the breeding mechanics are still present they seem to have become a side note for this game/project rather than it's main focus/fetish.