VN Ren'Py Completed Clara's Love Hotel [v1.0 Special Edition] [Dumb Koala Games]

[Deleted member 923548]

forgive me for intruding in since I'm not going to follow this game (a very bad first impression), as a lesbian I honestly felt disgusted with that scene because of the last thing I expect from a lesbian only mode is that the girls are used for the enjoyment of a man who ends up being our POV, I do not criticize the one who liked it but the key is that the mode is called "lesbian ony".

if it was impossible to make a genre swap, it would have been better to skip those scenes altogether with that mode at least that way it would have served its purpose of being "a lesbian only mode".

 

[Yngling]

GreenDark
Forgive my ignorance, but if lesbian sex is defined as two women going at it together, then why does it matter if a guy is wanking to that?

To me, it is like crying about NTR if there happens to be one other guy in the story, never mind if he gets intimate with any girl or not...

And yes, I do appreciate that you don't want to see a dick but perhaps you are being a bit oversensitive...

The scene seems fitting to the story and as long neither of the girls have to intimately touch, or be touched by, a guy, it's fine by me for a lesbian path.

 

[Molvaeth]

LightmanP, I don't know you or Koala nor your gender or orientation, but if I may: Maybe Mheka (and Greendark?, don't know) could give some advice and hints for the scenes, if your team lack of a lesbian viewpoint.

(The discussion reminds me of an old friend who complained once that lesbian stuff ist often made by men for men and noted, that it would be relatively easy to make it accessible for the whole audience)

 

[DumbKoala]

We're happy to add more warnings to make it clear. Sorry for any confusion.

Molvaeth it's funny you should say that "lesbian stuff is often made by men for men". I'd go as far to say the vast majority of porn is made for men by men. That's why I started Dumb Koala, because I, as a girl that likes girls, couldn't find any porn that was girl on girl without a very "male" plot, or that didn't feature massive-boobed caricatures of women, or was teen focused without it feeling super exploitative.

And nothing was just, well, cute!

So, for a long time I just made teen girl on girl content for DK based on my fantasies. But, as my following grew, I wanted to appeal to other kinks and desires. I wanted to challenge myself as an artist. I wanted to see if I could get inside the mind of a protagonist I didn't sexually identify with. So, I included some guys in my stories. In my early work (like this CLH release), the men were no more than the eyes you see through to enjoy the girls, but as time goes on, I've explored the concept more.

Even now that I'm making alternating hardcore to girl on girl content for my website, the girls are still the main focus. And it's always the girls that drive the stories, that have the fun, and that have the power!

As ever, definitions like "lesbian" are nuanced and down to personal interpretation. We presumed "lesbian" was OK in this context, because this is a sex game, and all sexual touching in the "lesbian only" mode is between two girls. To us "lesbian" doesn't mean "no men". By our definition at least, it means no sexual contact by a man.

I suppose we could include a "no men" mode in our next release if that would help

 

[Deleted member 923548]

We're happy to add more warnings to make it clear. Sorry for any confusion.

Molvaeth it's funny you should say that "lesbian stuff is often made by men for men". I'd go as far to say the vast majority of porn is made for men by men. That's why I started Dumb Koala, because I, as a girl that likes girls, couldn't find any porn that was girl on girl without a very "male" plot, or that didn't feature massive-boobed caricatures of women, or was teen focused without it feeling super exploitative.

And nothing was just, well, cute!

So, for a long time I just made teen girl on girl content for DK based on my fantasies. But, as my following grew, I wanted to appeal to other kinks and desires. I wanted to challenge myself as an artist. I wanted to see if I could get inside the mind of a protagonist I didn't sexually identify with. So, I included some guys in my stories. In my early work (like this CLH release), the men were no more than the eyes you see through to enjoy the girls, but as time goes on, I've explored the concept more.

Even now that I'm making alternating hardcore to girl on girl content for my website, the girls are still the main focus. And it's always the girls that drive the stories, that have the fun, and that have the power!

As ever, definitions like "lesbian" are nuanced and down to personal interpretation. We presumed "lesbian" was OK in this context, because this is a sex game, and all sexual touching in the "lesbian only" mode is between two girls. To us "lesbian" doesn't mean "no men". By our definition at least, it means no sexual contact by a man.

I suppose we could include a "no men" mode in our next release if that would help

I'm here because I forgot to unwatch the thread, I don't plan to discuss the definition of lesbian.

But what you say that the man did not participate for me is totally false he didn't just stare and not only we had to see him masturbating, he also collaborated throughout the scene, he also touched the girls and used the vibrator on them, and although it does not show that he cum in them is ultra obvious by the position of the image so for me, he did participate sexually with them too.

as for lesbian content created by men the truth is that I have seen that many men have made it well, I have followed lesbian games, stories, fanfics, manga made by men and I have liked them, so the gender of the author does not matter to me.

but well this one was made by a woman who likes women and I did not like it at all, so everything ends up in personal preferences about what is believed to be "lesbian".

I hope I explained myself well, English is not my first language and today I had my second dose of the vaccine so I am a little dizzy.

 

[DumbKoala]

I'm here because I forgot to unwatch the thread, I don't plan to discuss the definition of lesbian.

But what you say that the man did not participate for me is totally false he didn't just stare and not only we had to see him masturbating, he also collaborated throughout the scene, he also touched the girls and used the vibrator on them, and although it does not show that he cum in them is ultra obvious by the position of the image so for me, he did participate sexually with them too.

as for lesbian content created by men the truth is that I have seen that many men have made it well, I have followed lesbian games, stories, fanfics, manga made by men and I have liked them, so the gender of the author does not matter to me.

but well this one was made by a woman who likes women and I did not like it at all, so everything ends up in personal preferences about what is believed to be "lesbian".

I hope I explained myself well, English is not my first language and today I had my second dose of the vaccine so I am a little dizzy.

I agree, it is down to personal preference and personal interpretation. I can't appeal to everyone!

We will make it clearer in the next update release what the options include!

 

[Molvaeth]

DumbKoala Thank you very much for your detailed and frank aswer. Should I have offended you, I'm truly sorry.

Though I'm "just" a straight ally (m, cis), I'm very aware of the topic (long story...), what was the reason for my comment.

I'd go as far to say the vast majority of porn is made for men by men. That's why I started Dumb Koala, because I, as a girl that likes girls, couldn't find any porn that was girl on girl without a very "male" plot, or that didn't feature massive-boobed caricatures of women, or was teen focused without it feeling super exploitative.

I agree with every word of this. It's as difficult to find as a porn with a decent story.

Said friend and I tried to find both on a long night with a lot of mead, but failed mostly. (Mheka, Could you please send me some suggestions for the good work you mentioned, so I can forward it?)

So I really welcome work like yours Koala, that expands this imho a bit lopsided part of the porn world.

I wouldn't even dare to think of telling you anything how it should be. It's your game with your preferences, goals and interpretation. As you said you can't appeal everyone. However, you appealed me, for what it may be worth.

Even now that I'm making alternating hardcore to girl on girl content for my website, the girls are still the main focus. And it's always the girls that drive the stories, that have the fun, and that have the power!

Another big like for this! ^^

(PS: English isn't my first language, so I hope I wrote it understandably)

 

[MikuMiku]

this game is really good so far I think the scenes are really good I can imagine they will only get better I look forward to seeing more from this game,

 

[wariomario]

A lesbian-only mode can be enabled at the start of the game or via preferences.

You're a god send my friend.

 

[Wooloomooloo]

Judging by the tags and pics this would be right up my alley but unfortunately the "kinetic" part kills it dead for me.

 

[randomguy6516265165]

Idk why but DumbKoala renders have something that make them (to me) very beautiful? Idk how to explain it btw I'm not talking about the girls but the whole thing

 

[DumbKoala]

Idk why but DumbKoala renders have something that make them (to me) very beautiful? Idk how to explain it btw I'm not talking about the girls but the whole thing

Thank you! That is so kind of you to say

 

[valter2011vv]

 

[TimLord]

Great work! Love the lesbian scene in the beginning. Adding male characters is a turn off for me

 

[DumbKoala]

Gorgeous twins Naomi and Mia are waiting for you in the next update of Clara's Love Hotel. Will they be ready for their first unexpected client? Find out soon...
The next CLH update is almost ready and will be out a bit later this month!

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And if you want a bit of backstory, you should check out My Mom's Secret

 

[TexOperator]

Gorgeous twins Naomi and Mia are waiting for you in the next update of Clara's Love Hotel. Will they be ready for their first unexpected client? Find out soon...
The next CLH update is almost ready and will be out a bit later this month!

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Gorgeous. I'm already hyped.

And if you want a bit of backstory, you should check out My Mom's Secret

Already done.

Ooohh, you meant the VN. Sorry, that was inappropriate.

 

[Shenaniganzz]

OMG, the freckles!!! *immediately downloads*

 

[somebody cares]

ok so the models are great... but... idk, seems like there's something missing?
subsurface scattering?
the skin might be too matte, or something might be up with the lighting?
(e.g. the lighting in the second last ss looks like borderlands, which... ain't exactly known as the most realistic game)
the morphs seem to make the left tiddy in the last ss look just a bit off?

but i guess i shouldn't be complaining, the non stock models are more than enough compared to most (unfortunately.) of f95

 

[DumbKoala]

ok so the models are great... but... idk, seems like there's something missing?
subsurface scattering?
the skin might be too matte, or something might be up with the lighting?
(e.g. the lighting in the second last ss looks like borderlands, which... ain't exactly known as the most realistic game)
the morphs seem to make the left tiddy in the last ss look just a bit off?

but i guess i shouldn't be complaining, the non stock models are more than enough compared to most (unfortunately.) of f95

Yeah, in this first update these are not my best renders. The renders and story were started back in 2019 as a comic on my

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. I have improved a lot since then! The next update is coming soon!

 

[thevoid089]

Gorgeous twins Naomi and Mia are waiting for you in the next update of Clara's Love Hotel. Will they be ready for their first unexpected client? Find out soon...
The next CLH update is almost ready and will be out a bit later this month!

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Hell yes can't wait for the next chapter, your models truly are gorgeous and every games develop by you that I have played up until now never disappoint me. You truly are underrated