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KingWeWuz

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I'm glad I read comments before I consider playing games.

Dev, I would strongly suggest if you must include ntr, be as open about this plan as possible and tag your game with it.

Surprise ntr is a shitstorm waiting to happen.
 

Efol

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I understand. But Mac isn't with his girl, and you can skip the scene. Sorry, really.
Even if you skip the scene it still happens canonically.

It's a terrible idea to take a main harem member and suddenly add inn a random boyfriend that she has sex with. Without warning and with no way to stop it.

This situation has killed my and alot of other people's enthusiasm for the game. Which is a shame. :cry: (n)
 

dont_ask

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Mar 17, 2019
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I understand. But Mac isn't with his girl, and you can skip the scene. Sorry, really.
It usually does not matter if they are together or not. Most players who do not like NTR or related kinks (like sharing) thinks like: "If it is fuckuble, she is the main protagonist's girl and no other dicks should be near them."
Even if he is not with her, Mac still acts jelous when he discovers, how his daughter and that guy look at each other. But he is not an asshole and do not stop them.
Anyway, this is your game. Go in the direction you think you should go :)
 

lionarslan

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Finished playing, from week 1 to week 3.
Unusual for me, I begin with renders. I don't say that they're ugly or some other negative adjective, I play not for the quality of visuals, I play for the story. You have some renders and that's enough for me. But I cannot miss one thing - renders made with different quality and that's bad thing. Really. Why are some renders really grainy while other renders are not? It's not good for my eyes.
Another visual thing is character names. You paint names of characters with different colors while using darkened background for text. For white text that background is good. For black (or close to black) character names - definitely not. Players just can't see character names with that color scheme.
Story. That's the best thing that this game has. I like your story, I like it's twists and turns. Please continue to make a story on a same level, it's interesting and I feel it's gonna be epic.
Language. That's certainly the worst part. You make definite mistakes and/or mistypes over and over again, arm instead of harm, her instead of his and so on. It's annoying and irritating to the point I sometimes forget how I like this story and just want to press Alt + F4. Please, read what you write, make a playtest before uploading new version. There are people here who can proofread your game and they can even do it for free (as I heard). Your Engrish is the worst.
Genre. As I understand you are making a harem game. But what you're doing is not a visual novel. Choices in the game doesn't matter, they change nothing, they are only for seeing some scenes or not, not for the story or character development. It's kinetic novel, not a visual novel. It will hurt no one to add that tag, people will know better what your game is.
Porn and other adult things. It's good we have a choice to see some scenes or not. It's not good we haven't that for urination scenes. Not everyone like that, during these scenes the only emotion I felt was disgust, nothing more. I'd prefer to have a choice to skip such scenes. Another thing, NTR. Out of the blue Nicky have a boyfriend and fuck two males (till this moment - not simultaneously). At first she shaved her head and lost some of her charm (she had a good haircut that make her face prettier) and then she cheats on MC. I stress that, it's cheating (what MC tells doesn't matter, he's just good man). MC don't like to share, he said it loud and clear, it's betrayal in his own words. Nicky's betrayal wasn't a good move. Not for the story, not for the harem game. I saw that people already told you that, I just explained it from my point of view. I wish you will change that story move, it kills enjoyment and are making players question the story itself. Really not good for the good story.
 
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Virulenz

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Just found the game and thought it would good stuff to play at the office (hard to work when horny, so i thought this graphics would prevent it). Thats good and bad for you, because i wrote this over multiple days in the office while playing it, so its more detailed than most of my reviews...

The first week was better than expected. The story was funny and a little crazy and the charas were nice (except for the wife, i dislike that type of personality). It also had a script error with the blowjob choice, if you pick your PA or both it works fine, but the daughter had an error after blowing
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Week 2 started terrible...since you couldnt load/import saves from week 1, all the choices made there were pretty useless...and then you are forced to let your daughter dance in a stripclub (i'd rather burn it down and shoot anyone who trys to enter it than letting my kid strip for horny bastards...hell, i wouldnt even let one of my other girls do that...and the self crowned queen didnt stop the princess either) and if you visited the mine with your wife before this nasty scene you also reach a "dead end"
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without ignore button. I wasnt sure if i should even try to find a way around that bug or just stop there and delete the game before her stripper debut...but it was a boring day in the office and i had no other games on my stick, so i tried it...well, if you go to the hospital first it works without this error.
...okay, that strip-thing went better than feared, but the new hairstyle is terrible, she lost 100% cuteness and gained 50% uglyness...and i hate the wife more with every thing she does or says...i'd rather this stupid killer would have done his job right, the dead girl was much nicer than the surviving one...and the animations, better said the camera movements and driving loops gave me a few headaches in this week...

Week 3...first thing another of those driving loops...i hoped it was a try and discard thing...well, bad luck...again no savegame import and every choice from w1 and w2 were useless. That kevin thing is pretty annoying, even if my mindset was another, no selfclaimed king would allow one of his girls, especially not his own daughter to fall for a beast, at least not without burning both alive and the queen of a harem would ban every disloyal slut who even thinks about other guys, no matter who they are...so the missing option to avoid their affair killed her for me...i just hope i can avoid her from now on or threw her out, she can live with her beast if she wants it that badly and i hope i never need to see him again without the option to skin him alife and make a carpet for the toilets...btw, add the goddamn NTR tag, its there and not avoidable...even if you dont watch that shit your goddess still says she smells of sex as soon as the disgusting little slut rejoins...oh, and remove the loli tag, there is not a single loli in this game.

Summary:
Week 1 had the potential to become a good game
Week 2 downgraded the game
Week 3 killed the game
Week 4 is irrelevant, the game is dead for anyone who dislikes NTR, cheating sluts and unavoidable sharing girls with ugly guys...i am one of them
 
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dezgemadev

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Just found the game and thought it would good stuff to play at the office (hard to work when horny, so i thought this graphics would prevent it). Thats good and bad for you, because i wrote this over multiple days in the office while playing it, so its more detailed than most of my reviews...

The first week was better than expected. The story was funny and a little crazy and the charas were nice (except for the wife, i dislike that type of personality). It also had a script error with the blowjob choice, if you pick your PA or both it works fine, but the daughter had an error after blowing
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Week 2 started terrible...since you couldnt load/import saves from week 1, all the choices made there were pretty useless...and then you are forced to let your daughter dance in a stripclub (i'd rather burn it down and shoot anyone who trys to enter it than letting my kid strip for horny bastards...hell, i wouldnt even let one of my other girls do that...and the self crowned queen didnt stop the princess either) and if you visited the mine with your wife before this nasty scene you also reach a "dead end"
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without ignore button. I wasnt sure if i should even try to find a way around that bug or just stop there and delete the game before her stripper debut...but it was a boring day in the office and i had no other games on my stick, so i tried it...well, if you go to the hospital first it works without this error.
...okay, that strip-thing went better than feared, but the new hairstyle is terrible, she lost 100% cuteness and gained 50% uglyness...and i hate the wife more with every thing she does or says...i'd rather this stupid killer would have done his job right, the dead girl was much nicer than the surviving one...and the animations, better said the camera movements and driving loops gave me a few headaches in this week...

Week 3...first thing another of those driving loops...i hoped it was a try and discard thing...well, bad luck...again no savegame import and every choice from w1 and w2 were useless. That kevin thing is pretty annoying, even if my mindset was another, no selfclaimed king would allow one of his girls, especially not his own daughter to fall for a beast, at least not without burning both alive and the queen of a harem would ban every disloyal slut who even thinks about other guys, no matter who they are...so the missing option to avoid their affair killed her for me...i just hope i can avoid her from now on or threw her out, she can live with her beast if she wants it that badly and i hope i never need to see him again without the option to skin him alife and make a carpet for the toilets...btw, add the goddamn NTR tag, its there and not avoidable...even if you dont watch that shit your goddess still says she smells of sex as soon as the disgusting little slut rejoins...oh, and remove the loli tag, there is not a single loli in this game.

Summary:
Week 1 had the potential to become a good game
Week 2 downgraded the game
Week 3 killed the game
Week 4 is irrelevant, the game is dead for anyone who dislikes NTR, cheating sluts and unavoidable sharing girls with ugly guys...i am one of them
Thank you for taking time to write your opinion. I did think that Nicky having sex with another man was a turning point in the story, and was a prelude to soften her death for the players.
Yes, she gonna be banned.
It's a problem, and it will explore the psychology of Mac and Eileen.
He allowed this love because it's a beast. It's politics. Giiving the princess is a smart move to secure the kingdom.
There won't be a week 4.
The next episode is Layland Day After.
The concept of LDA is to make a bigger game, not finished, with monthly updates.
I hope you will like it.
Sorry for my english, I'm working hard to improve it, but I'm french, and it's a lot of work.
The Confined Town games are my first games. I'm learning.
And even if every comments doesn't really please me, it's really a pleasure to see that some people really look at my work.
For the video loops, sorry, I love video loops.
the bug in Week two is corrected, you can find the solution somewhere in the thread.
I like to write and render stories. But I think that you are right, it's a pain in the ass to be driven to an end. Playres should be able to make choices that matter.
I try to give you this choices.
 

dezgemadev

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Finished playing, from week 1 to week 3.
Unusual for me, I begin with renders. I don't say that they're ugly or some other negative adjective, I play not for the quality of visuals, I play for the story. You have some renders and that's enough for me. But I cannot miss one thing - renders made with different quality and that's bad thing. Really. Why are some renders really grainy while other renders are not? It's not good for my eyes.
Another visual thing is character names. You paint names of characters with different colors while using darkened background for text. For white text that background is good. For black (or close to black) character names - definitely not. Players just can't see character names with that color scheme.
Story. That's the best thing that this game has. I like your story, I like it's twists and turns. Please continue to make a story on a same level, it's interesting and I feel it's gonna be epic.
Language. That's certainly the worst part. You make definite mistakes and/or mistypes over and over again, arm instead of harm, her instead of his and so on. It's annoying and irritating to the point I sometimes forget how I like this story and just want to press Alt + F4. Please, read what you write, make a playtest before uploading new version. There are people here who can proofread your game and they can even do it for free (as I heard). Your Engrish is the worst.
Genre. As I understand you are making a harem game. But what you're doing is not a visual novel. Choices in the game doesn't matter, they change nothing, they are only for seeing some scenes or not, not for the story or character development. It's kinetic novel, not a visual novel. It will hurt no one to add that tag, people will know better what your game is.
Porn and other adult things. It's good we have a choice to see some scenes or not. It's not good we haven't that for urination scenes. Not everyone like that, during these scenes the only emotion I felt was disgust, nothing more. I'd prefer to have a choice to skip such scenes. Another thing, NTR. Out of the blue Nicky have a boyfriend and fuck two males (till this moment - not simultaneously). At first she shaved her head and lost some of her charm (she had a good haircut that make her face prettier) and then she cheats on MC. I stress that, it's cheating (what MC tells doesn't matter, he's just good man). MC don't like to share, he said it loud and clear, it's betrayal in his own words. Nicky's betrayal wasn't a good move. Not for the story, not for the harem game. I saw that people already told you that, I just explained it from my point of view. I wish you will change that story move, it kills enjoyment and are making players question the story itself. Really not good for the good story.
Hello, and thank you for your comment.
I've answered many times about NTR, and I asked the guy who owns the thread to add NTR tag.
For the look of Nicky, it's another problem. She looked like a character in another game. I had some copyright issue.
So, no hair, no problem.
The betrayal of Nicky was a way to make her death less painfull.
And to ensure the kingdom by giving the princess.
I'm working on my english, really.
 
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Virulenz

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I did think that Nicky having sex with another man was a turning point in the story, and was a prelude to soften her death for the players.
Well, thats the wrong order...it would be acceptable to find her dead body and the police finds out she was with an other guy...instead of letting her fuck around and come back alive just to kill her later.
Yes, she gonna be banned.
To late. The second she asked if she could stay over night should have been the second she was banned and/or the second that beast burns before the townhall as warning example for cheating sluts.
He allowed this love because it's a beast. It's politics. Giiving the princess is a smart move to secure the kingdom.
Not really...noone knew it at the time they got closer (refinery)...everyone including the MC and his queen knew her interest for that thing, but noone knew what he is until you catch gora...and then it didnt matter since you got the beastqueen as your wife, there was no political need for it (on the contrary, if 2/3 members of the family are with the beasts they got the advantage) and everyone can threw wood in an oven, so he is and was pretty usless. And no harem owner would give anyone for any reason, especially not the own family members, thats the reason to own a harem, to keep them for yourself. But it was even worse than that...he got angry because his queen was with a other girl, but he didnt cared a second about his girl...how do you expect the players to play a MC they started to hate? Or be forced to keep the queen of the pack after she allowed it too? Everyone must bow before she lets them fuck you, but she allowed her own child to openly betray you, to let an other guy take your place? Nope, it dont makes sense, its impossible and unforgivable.
I hope you will like it.
Honestly, i dont know if i try it since i deleted the games already. Unavoidable NTR is the ultimate gamekiller, far more than dead maingirls.
 

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Well, thats the wrong order...it would be acceptable to find her dead body and the police finds out she was with an other guy...instead of letting her fuck around and come back alive just to kill her later.
To late. The second she asked if she could stay over night should have been the second she was banned and/or the second that beast burns before the townhall as warning example for cheating sluts.
Not really...noone knew it at the time they got closer (refinery)...everyone including the MC and his queen knew her interest for that thing, but noone knew what he is until you catch gora...and then it didnt matter since you got the beastqueen as your wife, there was no political need for it (on the contrary, if 2/3 members of the family are with the beasts they got the advantage) and everyone can threw wood in an oven, so he is and was pretty usless. And no harem owner would give anyone for any reason, especially not the own family members, thats the reason to own a harem, to keep them for yourself. But it was even worse than that...he got angry because his queen was with a other girl, but he didnt cared a second about his girl...how do you expect the players to play a MC they started to hate? Or be forced to keep the queen of the pack after she allowed it too? Everyone must bow before she lets them fuck you, but she allowed her own child to openly betray you, to let an other guy take your place? Nope, it dont makes sense, its impossible and unforgivable.
Honestly, i dont know if i try it since i deleted the games already. Unavoidable NTR is the ultimate gamekiller, far more than dead maingirls.
Amen
 

dont_ask

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dezgemadev I will gladly check your new game, but you should consider some things that went wrong here and learn from it!
I really loved it at first, even the graphics could not hold me back, the story was nice and it kicked my kinks nicely. The English was understandable to a degree, I could understood what it was supposed to mean. But as others mentioned, there might be some, who can help with that. Maybe even from France?

I can understand the problem with copywrite, but why did you choose a new hair cut for the girl which made the girl look like a boy with tits? And as others already said, if you plan a harem game, the harem members are usually do not leave it. Maybe if the owner is a dick or a whimp, but this was so not true for Mac... Also, you made a logic error in the story as there was no sign of any of those workers as being beasts until the very end of the week.
 
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lionarslan

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Hello, and thank you for your comment.
Thank you for your answer.
I've answered many times about NTR, and I asked the guy who owns the thread to add NTR tag.
You see, people here complain not about NTR per se but the fact it's unavoidable and out of the blue. That is a turn off, once a lovely character suddenly becomes a cheating slut. And not MC's slut, just slut. Before the week 3 she was like another person, cute, lovely and caring, she loved her father and only her father. People (me included) don't like when characters change to worse without any reason. And that was Nicky's case exactly.
For the look of Nicky, it's another problem. She looked like a character in another game. I had some copyright issue.
So, no hair, no problem.
Thank you for clarification. It's unexpected.
The betrayal of Nicky was a way to make her death less painfull.
And to ensure the kingdom by giving the princess.
I fear that's where the root of all negativity lies. Virulenz explained it all but I want to add some words. If you want to make a death of a character less painful you should make her less significant in the eyes of the player. For two weeks we see character, we see her personality, she isn't someone who insignificant, she's young, adorable and easy to like. And we, players, really like her. Well, we liked her to be exact. Before the week 3. Now players want out. For the one reason, they feel betrayed by you. You showed us beatuful girl and then you changed her personality for the worse. Without any reason (from our point of view). If she'll die later we won't feel less pain or something like that. Part of players will feel nothing 'cause they wont play your next game. And those who will play... I suppose they wont find any meaning in her death.
From the author's point of view death of every character with a name serves a specific purpose, to show readers something, to make them feel something. In Tolkien's LOTR death of Boromir was needed for the story, author did nothing for this death to be less painful for readers. That's the way character's death should be. If Nicky was the same on week 3 and then was killed we'd mourn her and remember her as a good girl. Now part of the players try to forget Nicky, forget as she never was in that story, even she's still alive. And her death will be senseless. I like to think it's not what you wanted.
People here already expressed his feelings about character they don't like. And if someone would make a vote the winner will certainly be Eileen. Her death will not bring me and people with similar mindset any pain, only satisfaction. And for me personally Nicky's death... will be the death of my daughter 'cause when I play a good story I dive into the skin of MC. And I still remember who Nicky was during 2 first weeks.
I'm working on my english, really.
As I already said, there's a thing called proofreading. You can find here one person (better find few persons) who will play your game slightly before the release and that person can pinpoint on language mistakes so you can fix them and release already proofread version of the game. There's a game made by Spanish dev and one user here (MrFriendly or something like that) proofread it before release. I personally played it, there was only a few language mistakes I encounter. Volume of text was close to any week of yours.

In no connection to any of the above. For 3 weeks MC has sex with women not using any contraception means. He has a walking pregnancy test on his side, but Kotoma only said some words about ugly pale beastqueen. Judging by her words I think she can say for every woman in MC's harem - is she pregnant or not. Will she say it later?
 

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English translation in the SPOILERS for anyone who cares.

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Comme l'anglais est une deuxième langue pour vous, je vais taper en français (une deuxième langue pour moi).
Il y avait quelques bons points dans le jeu mais ce jeu est mort pour beaucoup de gens. Il est mort parce que pour beaucoup (la plupart) des gens sur f95 le NTR a tué le jeu.

Quelques points pour aider la future version ;
1) Comprenez que pour la plupart des gens, "NTR" signifie que les filles ont des relations sexuelles avec n'importe qui d'autre que le MC. Si vous choisissez de faire cela, ces joueurs vont partir.

2) La possibilité de "sauter" (Skip) une scène sexuelle et la possibilité de "l'éviter" (Avoid) sont différentes pour de nombreux joueurs. "Sauter" signifie que l'histoire de la scène se déroule et que le joueur (MC) ne l'observe pas. "Éviter" signifie que le joueur a le choix ou la possibilité d'empêcher la scène de se produire.

3) N'oubliez pas que si vous, en tant que créateur du jeu, avez une compréhension plus approfondie des points de l'histoire. Les joueurs ne le savent pas, donc prendre des décisions de conception basées sur ce que vous savez, soulèvera parfois des problèmes avec les joueurs qui ne comprennent pas tous les différents points.

4) Essayez d'ajouter des balises à votre jeu de manière claire et honnête. F95 ne marque que le contenu actuel, mais en tant que développeur, vous pouvez inclure une note ou un avertissement concernant les futures marques. Des tags spécifiques comme "NTR" et "Futa" (il y en a d'autres) provoqueront toujours une division parmi vos joueurs potentiels. Si vous choisissez d'ajouter ces balises, certaines personnes voudront davantage de ce type de contenu, d'autres voudront qu'il soit évitable (comme le point 2), d'autres encore arrêteront de jouer et " ignoreront " le jeu. Réfléchissez aux balises que vous souhaitez inclure et utilisez l'article principal de la page 1 pour expliquer ce que ces balises signifient dans votre jeu. Cela permettra d'empêcher les gens d'" ignorer " le jeu et d'éviter qu'ils ne se mettent en colère contre ce contenu dans les commentaires.

5) Après tout cela, le point le plus important est de faire le jeu que vous voulez faire. Si vous essayez de faire des jeux pour gagner de l'argent, c'est une bonne idée d'écouter vos supporters et de prendre en compte leurs suggestions. Si vous essayez de créer des jeux pour votre apprentissage ou votre plaisir personnel, rappelez-vous que vous ne me devez rien, ni à moi ni à personne d'autre.

J'espère que cela vous aidera à l'avenir.
Bien que ce jeu actuel soit (je pense) détruit par le contenu de la semaine 3. J'espère que vous apprendrez des bons et mauvais commentaires à l'avenir.

Bonne chance !
 

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English translation in the SPOILERS for anyone who cares.

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Comme l'anglais est une deuxième langue pour vous, je vais taper en français (une deuxième langue pour moi).
Il y avait quelques bons points dans le jeu mais ce jeu est mort pour beaucoup de gens. Il est mort parce que pour beaucoup (la plupart) des gens sur f95 le NTR a tué le jeu.

Quelques points pour aider la future version ;
1) Comprenez que pour la plupart des gens, "NTR" signifie que les filles ont des relations sexuelles avec n'importe qui d'autre que le MC. Si vous choisissez de faire cela, ces joueurs vont partir.

2) La possibilité de "sauter" (Skip) une scène sexuelle et la possibilité de "l'éviter" (Avoid) sont différentes pour de nombreux joueurs. "Sauter" signifie que l'histoire de la scène se déroule et que le joueur (MC) ne l'observe pas. "Éviter" signifie que le joueur a le choix ou la possibilité d'empêcher la scène de se produire.

3) N'oubliez pas que si vous, en tant que créateur du jeu, avez une compréhension plus approfondie des points de l'histoire. Les joueurs ne le savent pas, donc prendre des décisions de conception basées sur ce que vous savez, soulèvera parfois des problèmes avec les joueurs qui ne comprennent pas tous les différents points.

4) Essayez d'ajouter des balises à votre jeu de manière claire et honnête. F95 ne marque que le contenu actuel, mais en tant que développeur, vous pouvez inclure une note ou un avertissement concernant les futures marques. Des tags spécifiques comme "NTR" et "Futa" (il y en a d'autres) provoqueront toujours une division parmi vos joueurs potentiels. Si vous choisissez d'ajouter ces balises, certaines personnes voudront davantage de ce type de contenu, d'autres voudront qu'il soit évitable (comme le point 2), d'autres encore arrêteront de jouer et " ignoreront " le jeu. Réfléchissez aux balises que vous souhaitez inclure et utilisez l'article principal de la page 1 pour expliquer ce que ces balises signifient dans votre jeu. Cela permettra d'empêcher les gens d'" ignorer " le jeu et d'éviter qu'ils ne se mettent en colère contre ce contenu dans les commentaires.

5) Après tout cela, le point le plus important est de faire le jeu que vous voulez faire. Si vous essayez de faire des jeux pour gagner de l'argent, c'est une bonne idée d'écouter vos supporters et de prendre en compte leurs suggestions. Si vous essayez de créer des jeux pour votre apprentissage ou votre plaisir personnel, rappelez-vous que vous ne me devez rien, ni à moi ni à personne d'autre.

J'espère que cela vous aidera à l'avenir.
Bien que ce jeu actuel soit (je pense) détruit par le contenu de la semaine 3. J'espère que vous apprendrez des bons et mauvais commentaires à l'avenir.

Bonne chance !
Merci, comme disait la Fontaine, cette leçon vaut bien un fromage. (En l'occurence, la moitié de mes patreons...)
Tahnk you, I' ve learn this by the hard way. Confined Town 3 made me loose half of my patreons.
 
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