How can I play a game against a custom heroine squad? I've tried making a trio but no matter what settings I use, any new game only uses randomly generated heroines, never any that I made.
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It turns out that I was completely wrong about what was causing these bugs, so thank you very much for uploading your saves! Fixes for both have been included in R53.
Yes, these are among the many, many things I still want to add to custom sex scenes. Right now, we're starting to get close to the conclusion of campaign mode, so I'm pretty focused on that for the time being. But eventually, most updates are going to be focused on adding more and more sex actions (and more detailed, responsive flavor for existing actions).
Right, the intent is that players will rename their Forsaken to something more appropriate for a villain. But I guess the canon explanation is that most Chosen just really aren't that creative.
I wasn't able to replicate the early final battle bug, but I think I did find what was causing your magical boys to have inconsistent features. It should be fixed in R54.
Thank you for going through the work of getting this set up! I've added a link to the wiki in the resources.txt file included with the game. And if you ever need clarification on any mechanics for a writeup, I try to answer such questions here whenever they come up.
My understanding is that Java looks at the fonts installed on your system and tries to find the best match for the one specified by the program. I'm not sure if installing a font on your end could solve the problem.
This is something I'm interested in adding, but the amount of flavor text that would need to be rewritten is really huge, probably a full update's worth of work. I wouldn't expect to see it anytime soon.
Thanks for catching these issues with the implementation of the new Distortion. I'll see if I can have them all fixed by R54.
The suggestions for Solipsism and Codependency were definitely a factor in my decision to set up the last two Distortions like this. The single-target-per-loop nature of the Confidence/Dignity Distortion is meant to be the inverse of the always-targets-all-three-Chosen Morality/Innocence Distortion that's coming soon. I guess I could see adding some gameplay mechanics surrounding triggering Megalomania first in one Chosen and then in another in the same loop, but in the end, you only have one second-in-command position to give out.
Thank you for the bug reports, and for your work on the wiki! The inability to set the "none" training plan is indeed a bug which will be fixed in the next version. As for triggering the Megalomaniac Distortion multiple times, there's currently no bonus beyond being a very "cheap" repeatable way to get +50 EE.
Splendor's reluctance to use Glorious Fatal Curse isn't actually a bug. Because the move doesn't interact with surround mechanics, the Chosen decision algorithm doesn't actually take surrounded allies into account. Instead, it looks at how much EE you're gaining and asks "Will the EE I drain be worth dealing HATE damage to myself?" Because you gained such a huge amount of EE on the previous day, Splendor decides that the relatively small amount of EE she'd be able to chip away from you just isn't worth it.
Good catch on the Animalistic Frenzy usage not making sense, though, and on the bug when Bargaining with Splendor. Both of these will be fixed in R54.
The difficulty of training your second-in-command is definitely something I had in mind while balancing everything. This is why they get their unique Defiler by default - otherwise, it'd often be basically impossible to give it to them, especially since any time spent training them cuts into their brief window of usefulness before being replaced.
I also agree that a lot of the Favorite text doesn't fit very well right now. I have a whole bunch more I want to do with Favorite text, whenever there's a good spot in my development schedule for it, but I've been pretty much putting it on the backburner for now.
It's occurring to me that instead of having the tip text say "until 10k dmg," I should have it specify "until 10k HATE", "until 10k PLEA", etc.
Oops, that's a major bug I missed. Buying upgrades with your second-in-command deployed is only supposed to give an EE refund when you're buying Imago Quickening (because the deployment no longer costs Evil Energy).
I can offer some clarification here since the mechanics were adjusted at some point and you're both probably remembering how the game worked in different releases. Currently, only Aversion and Negotiation downtimes set the weight for all other downtimes to zero. The EE-generating Distortion downtimes only set the weight to zero for downtime actions that generate equal or less Evil Energy. So, even when using Tempt, the subject can still do the T4 downtime actions that generate +50 Evil Energy, but only if she has enough trauma for it. The energy generated from the Distortion downtime actions themselves don't change.
I felt like forcing the player to use a specific Commander in order to defeat using the Megalomania Distortion was a pretty big downside, so I balanced around that. In particular, being stuck with a Suspiciously Incompetent Splendor as your second-in-command is really painful, because the only way to get the ball rolling in the final battle is to use the four basic moves and then Surround from there.
The game doesn't outright require you to beat the Megalomaniac's allies first, but it does strongly incentivize it, since you can't Capture anymore after using Recruit.
I agree that adding some more mechanics (and in particular, some benefit to proccing the Distortion multiple times) would make things more interesting, but I'm not sure if it really needs to be more difficult. But then again, maybe I was just playing sloppy in my playtest, and requiring players to be a little more careful would actually be warranted.
I plan on including an item in the next update that lets your Forsaken cope better with being usurped. Maybe I should add a cheat that lets players select some specific starting items in campaign mode, just so that the playstyle-affecting items can be used without completely throwing the game balance out the window.God I hope some of that gets used, Hate and Innocence are my two favorites to break, so I really looked forward to their distortion. And while I like it somewhat, the fact that it´s very much ill-advised to do too often, thanks to "ruining" the previous second in command, does dampen my enjoyment of it significantly
As it stands, reducing the bonus by a lot or removing it would have been fine with me, though still painful, but straight up making it a penalty seems too harsh...
It might help, I initially intuited what it meant correctly then second-guessed my-self when I managed a break on like 3k or 4k circumstance without understanding that the chosen figured it would break and used a tactic to protect themselves. So when I saw that I thought it must be trauma damage instead.
Love the game by the way, even though I am struggling a little bit. Scraped through with a win but it was pretty scuffed.
Wait, using Megalomania a second time requires sending out your current second-in-command? That should probably be mentioned somewhere. Maybe the final battle description of the distortion should include that recruit will only be available if the second-in-command is either vacant, or participating in the battle (and use the same text regardless of occupancy). It might be a bit of a nasty surprise if someone isn't expecting the distortion behavior to change when using it a second time.
CSdev There's something I've been ruminating on for a while, and definitely wouldn't be a priority, but I'm wondering how hard it would be to implement...how to phrase this...cosmetic changes to distortions? Some of them can be a little disturbing, or might not be the type of thing someone's into at all, so an option to leave them mechanically intact but change the name and text to something else, kinda like the less violence option in the options menu. I realize it'd be a lot more complex to do because distortions affect quite a few more things like vignettes though. I tend to shy away from Aversion myself just because I find it a little much, so having an alternative would be useful and also something to get excited about once the game is mechanically finished.
CSdev One thing that I've only just discovered that was confusing me, is that Chosen will always prepare to fly on a capture when the battle is "complete".
I was scratching my head trying to figure out how and why chosen were flying after only like one capture until I found it by trawling this forum. I couldn't find info about this in the guides included (maybe I just didn't look hard enough?) so perhaps adding a tip or info about that might be helpful. Figuring that out has actually drastically improved my approach to fights.
I was scratching my head trying to figure out how and why chosen were flying after only like one capture until I found it by trawling this forum. I couldn't find info about this in the guides included (maybe I just didn't look hard enough?) so perhaps adding a tip or info about that might be helpful. Figuring that out has actually drastically improved my approach to fights.
You're welcome!
I didn't know that about the decision to use Fatal Curse, that they're less likely to use it if you have gained a bunch of EE the day before. That explains a lot of the difficulty I've been having with getting Undead MOR PE% up in general. I've been able to make other Undead trigger it. I'm just not sure I ever saw Splendor do it.
In that case this code in Project.class may actually be a bit off (according to Java Decompile GUI--no idea how it shows on your end).
This code, based on how I view it working, is setting the weights for all Actions 0-20 to a comparitively low floor if capped.booleanValue() is true, right? The weight in particular for Actions 16-20 will be set to 1T if I'm reading this right? ON JDGUI, it starts on line 15572 but I have no way to tell how accurate that is for the actual source code, or if I'm even reading it properly.
Code:
for (i5 = 0; i5 < 21; i5++) {
if (capped.booleanValue())
if (i5 == 0) {
actionWeights[k][i5] = Long.valueOf(10L);
} else if (i5 < 5) {
actionWeights[k][i5] = Long.valueOf(100L);
} else if (i5 < 9) {
actionWeights[k][i5] = Long.valueOf(1000L);
} else if (i5 < 13) {
actionWeights[k][i5] = Long.valueOf(1000000L);
} else if (i5 < 17) {
actionWeights[k][i5] = Long.valueOf(1000000000L);
} else {
actionWeights[k][i5] = Long.valueOf(1000000000000L);
}
w.corruptionTierSummary[k][i5] = actionWeights[k][i5].longValue();capped is initialized in my view on line 15552 as false and set to true on line 15555 if any element of actionWeights[][] is greater than 10T. So for Forsaken running around with >10T actionWeights[][], which is only 2T total Trauma (plus some number of ANGST) they will do the Distortion-related action, which is the changed behavior that Nobody032 noticed.
Of course I could be totally wrong on this, my view of your code comes from within JDGUI, the usual disclaimers, etc. But if I'm right you can just change "i5<21" to "i5<17". Well, you'd still have to worry about the calculations in Downtime() exceeding Java's Long datatype at, uh, what is it? 9 Peta-? 9 Exa-? It's around one of those values--but you've got to code for that anyway since you've already left actionWeights[21:25][] uncapped.
So, I had Splendor in Loop 11 and Loop 14 (skipped 12-13 through warp but she still drained Motivation the whole time). I didn't try to trigger Megalomania in those loops for that reason. Of course, I'd like to trigger it for Loop 15 in the Victory fight.
I'm actually having real trouble with Loop 15, but not in the way where it'll be impossible to finish. Rather, I'm going to need to accept that I need to sacrifice more Forsaken, even some that I'd really like to keep around, to even be able to use mine. My roster of usable low-cost Forsaken is almost entirely Undead and Animalistic Forsaken. So, they regain Motivation at 1/3 the usual rate. However, Splendor still drains them at the same rate as the others. As such, I really can't get enough Motivation through training to get them to a usable state because a training session focused on Motivation restores about 40 or so for them, while costing all their Stamina. And by the time their Stamina comes back, two days after training, they've already pretty much lost the Motivation they gained. The only one that's consistently usable is Metalhead, my Demon Knight.
Splendor's Bargaining system is perhaps not as helpful as intended. I haven't looked in the code, but it seems like in Loops with Devils, she only seems to ever offer the "stop spreading propaganda about Devils and Animalistic" bargain. And, in the loops I warped through, she was offering deals about empowering Chosen that... probably didn't actually exist? And sometimes crashing the game? I know there's a priority system and that if Devils are in the Loop, they have the highest priority, but I have not actually seen her offer anything else in those four (two fights, two skipped) Loops. If she had ever offered the "stop draining Motivation" deal I'd be in a very different situation going in to Loop 15.
So, some suggestions for how to tweak it for variety and balance, since this is my first real time using it:
1) Maybe she could have more than one deal active at a time? Would this be unbalancing? I understand the desire to make her a real challenge, but if I'm having to give up permanent progression in the sense of trained, active, useful Forsaken to get her state to anything other than "not making my whole team fucking useless", she still seems a bit much.
2) Maybe her deals could affect two of her attributes at once? That makes conveyance, difficult, though.
3) Maybe, if her current deal has something to do with difficulty of the Chosen for this Loop (Devil/Animalistic propaganda, empowering a Chosen) she could offer a different deal during the post-Final Battle training portion of the Loop? Or maybe during the training section of the Loop (and during skipped Loops) she could always offer the "stop draining Motivation" deal as this is the one players would want? It makes some logical in-world sense that she would stop offering the "don't provide Intelligence for the next Loop" deal after that point, because she's been providing intelligence already through most of the Loop at that point. And it makes no sense that she offers deals about empowering Chosen in loops where there are no actual Chosen.
4) Maybe, she could drain less Motivation from Animalistic/Undead Forsaken, just to balance the higher cost of restoring that Motivation? The same 1/3 modifier for them, and a 1/2 modifier for any Superior Forsaken? I'm not sure about the conveyance of this and it might push things too far the other way, though. I don't want her to be a pushover, I definitely want her to cause changes to my strategies.
I understand the desire to not have her help you vs. other bosses--she's got actual relationships with them, and I'm not at all looking to change that part. But overall her system is "using Forsaken sucks now, plus some other very minor penalties you won't notice because your whole team is at 0 Motivation all the time."
If anyone has different feedback and has actually played significant Loops with Splendor sabotaging you, please share, as I don't want to assume my feelings are universal. I don't know how many players actually reach double-digit Loops.
In the end, I think this and everything else is about making a fun challenge to the player and I'm not having much fun by having to sacrifice Forsaken I've had since early Loops just to make the rest of them usable. Of course, it's always your call.
If you want to see what this looks like for yourself CSdev I have put my current save in this post. I've also put some Saves from before the last time I did a save game purge as savesbeforevictory.sav. It's not really possible to get the one Forsaken who is allowed to Tantrum every day to line up with the Animalistic vulnerable cycle when I want it to. I have to feed a Forsaken to the breeding pit for every 2 days that I'm wanting to send out another Forsaken (besides the Demon Knight).
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Temptation downtime action definitely seems to have higher priority right now than +50 one as SuperSkippy suggested. Chosen with 100T+ in each trauma doing temptation action when triggered. While giving +50 energy when not triggered.
Also To me personally meglomaniac really seems too easy. For other distortions you need to work around the t1 breaks which are not allowed but for megalomania you can get it somehow without even going for it. Just now I triggered megalomaniac on the undead chosen I decided to sacrifice and achievement farm without even trying while going for punisher%. Also for the final battle even though the fixed commander trigger can probably be annoying, I haven't yet ran into an issue with it.
Also To me personally meglomaniac really seems too easy. For other distortions you need to work around the t1 breaks which are not allowed but for megalomania you can get it somehow without even going for it. Just now I triggered megalomaniac on the undead chosen I decided to sacrifice and achievement farm without even trying while going for punisher%. Also for the final battle even though the fixed commander trigger can probably be annoying, I haven't yet ran into an issue with it.
I don't have much experience with Splendor since in my last run my forsaken got bugged and stopped losing motivation for some reason but is it possible to maintain somewhat higher motivation going into loop 15 by using multiple different concerts from different forsaken? That was my plan for getting "ready" for the next loop + Sacrificing some forsaken if my forsaken didn't bug out. Also I had the motivation restore item and some% of angel bonus for that as well.
Yes, that's one thing I've already thought to go back and try when I go back to the game. Even then, though, it gets you through the first 8-10 days, which is enough for a standard Loop to hit a big Orgy and start triggering T3s, but I'm not sure if it's enough for Victory. Also, the Pit has already taken all the Forsaken I wasn't planning on using, so even this will require "ruining" some highly useful Forsaken by increasing their Disgrace past utility.
Regarding Megalomania being easy to trigger--I guess I don't think very much about how difficult a break is to avoid ever since the Distortion Plan was added to the Info menu. If I set them after I get Psychic Reading, then click the green buttons and yellow buttons and don't ever click the red buttons, I get exactly the breaks I need. If I care a lot about making some of them dislike each other because I'm expecting some are usable and some will not be, then I put a bit more thought into what order I go in. Lately I've been doing more Distortion then all 4 T4 Breaks against Chosen that I don't expect to be usable, as you can get the Achievements for both (and the bonus EE for achieving Temptation/Rampage). Loop 11 and especially Loop 14 were very difficult though with Splendor doing her thing, Devil Chosen in both loops, and the Breeding Pit is getting quite full. I couldn't get enough Resolve damage vs. the Animalistic in Loop 14 to convert her so she became an hero. I didn't feel like reloading an earlier save to try something different there either (and still don't).
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Personally I believe that Megalomania is balanced good enough by the fact that you have to use Second-in-Command for last battles. Probably the difference in difficulty perception is due to different playstyles and experience. Don`t forget that there is a difference between seasoned players and newcomers. The game is already harder than most others. Not complaining, however it definitely limits game exposure.
O found a minor bug. The item soul liquefaction adds a line saying "+x Evil Energy (dividends)" after the vignettes or the training report of the post city reports.
Note this dose not give you any extra evil energy at the start of the next loop
Note this dose not give you any extra evil energy at the start of the next loop
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The "final battle behavior" section does warn you while you have a Second-in-Command, but I guess that could easily slip by a player who assumes that it'll just say the same thing it did in the previous loop. I'll add a note warning the player that the condition will be different in future loops.
Yes, I'm definitely okay with adding more content toggles like that in the future.
The rule is described in step 2 of the guide.txt file. I suppose it'd be good for the explanation to appear in-game, but I'd have to think about a good non-intrusive-but-still-easily-noticed spot for it.
Ah, I see. You're right, there's only a fairly small range of damage values where the Chosen will properly pick T4 actions over the Temptation- and Rampancy-related ones. I'll make sure that the overflow failsafe takes Distortion downtime actions into account in R54.
I'll preface this by saying that Splendor is already at her most difficult when you face her in Loop 10, and making her your Second-in-Command on top of that is basically taking the "just fuck my shit up" option. All the work you've done to raise the Megalomania achievement is pretty much wasted until you can swap her out for another boss.
On top of that, this is the part of the game which really is meant to put pressure on you to trim your roster of Forsaken. 14 Forsaken really is a lot! Every Forsaken you keep around adds to the challenge of managing them all, and in exchange, they provide you tools for making future loops easier. I want the question of "is the higher difficulty now worth the benefit I'll get in future loops" to be a persistent consideration right up into the endgame. If that's not a fun question to consider, then that's a more fundamental game design question that I have to confront. I don't want it to be optimal for players to be juggling dozens of Forsaken by the time they reach the endgame.
That said, you're also right about some mechanics not working as intended, and there are definitely some things that will be adjusted for R54.
So, the concession that Splendor asks for cycles from day to day (ideally skipping concessions that are impossible - but the bug with buffing nonexistent Chosen resulted from an error there). The benefit she grants in return depends only on the current game situation - it doesn't cycle from day to day. My goal was that she would always offer the most impactful benefit for the current situation. I'm not sure if you've peeked at the code for this, but for the sake of the discussion, I'll write it out in pseudocode here. She basically goes down a list like this:
1) If this is a boss loop: do not offer a deal.
2) If there's a Devil Chosen (or, in future releases, a Mechanical Chosen): offer to remove the species-based damage penalty.
3) If the loop isn't complete yet: offer to remove the Motivation penalty.
4) If the loop isn't complete yet: offer to fight seriously when you deploy her.
5) If there's an Undead Chosen: offer to remove the species-based damage penalty.
6) Offer to remove next loop's difficulty increase.
7) Offer to remove the species-based damage penalty (actually, this one ended up being redundant - it should never come up).
8) Offer to allow herself to be trained.
9) Do not offer a deal.
Any offers that she's already giving you because of other bosses being defeated are skipped, and the ones related to Chosen species are also skipped if the final battle has already happened (because they aren't Chosen anymore).
In the next release, I've changed point (6) so that she won't offer it if the next loop is a boss loop (since that effectively amounts to offering a bonus for a boss loop) and she also won't offer it if you've unlocked the warp condition (because it's useless to decrease the difficulty of a loop you'll probably be skipping anyway).
I'm thinking that I should also replace point (7) with another chance for her to remove the Motivation penalty. That way, when you're heading through warp loops, or when you're on your way to a boss loop, you can still leverage the bargain system to make things easier for the coming challenge.
One other thing: I'm also going to have the "agree to fight seriously" and "remove species-based damage penalty" bargains expire immediately after the final battle, in order to allow the player to make a new bargain as soon as they're not getting any benefit from the old one.
Of course, it's also possible that the Motivation penalty is just too impactful compared to the other 3 penalties right now. During my playtests, I always felt like the half damage to Devils was hurting me more than the Motivation drain, but then I also only kept a smaller roster or 6 or 7 Forsaken. I guess I could actually have Splendor's decision of what bargain to offer depend on the size of your Forsaken roster as well. I just feel like letting her have multiple bargains active at once would make her too weak.
That's right, I never got around to fixing this bug. I've just now fixed it for R54.
So after experimenting a little bit I've managed to get the situation to look like this at about day 30.
I tried it before and the biggest issue with doing it this way is that the progress on a few of the total breaks is just taking forever. I try to finesse it to ensure I have loads of surround turns to actually force the surrounding people to use their abilities but I'm just kind of bad at it. Is there a strategy/commander set-up that is best for this?
I tried it before and the biggest issue with doing it this way is that the progress on a few of the total breaks is just taking forever. I try to finesse it to ensure I have loads of surround turns to actually force the surrounding people to use their abilities but I'm just kind of bad at it. Is there a strategy/commander set-up that is best for this?
that looks like a nightmare
for me easiest t4 is pleasure, and morality (they just happen naturally even if they fuck one of your tries sometimes) drain is a drag , and I cant trigger t4 dignity consistently for some reason
Glad I could help! I've just been playing around it because I thought it was the intended behavior.
I don't think it's a lot, actually. At Loop 15, I've fought close to the minimum number of Chosen (I went into Loop 9 to pick up a few more despite being able to skip it, knowing I would soon need... extras).
3 in Loop 1 (standard)
3 in Loop 3 (2 standard 1 Superior)
3 in Loop 5 (1 Undead 2 Standard)
3 in Loop 7 (I think this was Undead--Superior--Standard)
3 in Loop 9 (Animalistic--Undead--Superior, I think)
3 in Loop 10 (Splendor boss fight so 2 Undead)
3 in Loop 11 (Devil, Undead, Standard I think)
3 in Loop 14 (Devil, Animalistic, Superior I believe)
So that means I got a total of 24 from minimal loops, which means I've sacrificed 9. Most of those were after Splendor joined the team. I usually keep a minimum of two "worthless" Forsaken around to dance for the amusement of their sisterhood (Grand Concert) but Splendor has eaten all of them.
The 15 I have are all for specific purposes. I have 3 for basic Circumstance damage (since Tempted can switch all 4 are covered). I have 8 for applying the most useful Punisher effects to others. (All 4 Circumstance bonuses, Trauma bonus, Motivation bonus, +Stamina bonus, -EE cost bonus, +Stamina regen bonus, +Training Consent bonus, some applying multiples of these). The other 2 are Devil Forsaken, which I have kept because I haven't used them before and want to test their effectiveness, but loops quickly get so short that I don't often get the chance.
I remember the first contest we had someone commented a bit incredulously at how many Forsaken I sacrificed. I think most players don't like giving them up like that. Each one represents at least some level of effort. Personally I accept which ones are going to be useful and which aren't right after I get Psychic Reading and all 3 Chosen join the battle. I give the ones I keep flavorful names and I give the ones I'm not keeping shit names.
I have not--the only time I was really motivated to examine the code was for Downtimes because everyone kept asking how they worked, and for items to get a convenient list of all of them for the wiki. Knowing the code for Downtimes is how I was able to point out the error noted above.
The changes you mentioned would go a long way towards making it more fun for me personally. I agree on the boss fight and might add something extra: if the next loop is a boss fight, the only offers she'll give will all strengthen that loop. It would be an excellent opportunity for some flavour text as well and give players a chance to fight double-buffed bosses (if they take one offer during the combat portion and one offer during the training portion of the loop). It would also be sensible as she really wants to help Victory (and, eventually, the other Boss Chosen).
Consider also mainly for ease of conveyance making all offers expire after the Final Battle (with effects on the next Loop remaining), with the possible exception of Next Loop Difficulty.
I honestly have no point of comparison since she only ever offers the Species Damage bargain. The last time I posted "hey I can't beat this Devil plase halp" resulted in the whole Bargain system because she was always doing both. Testing what it'd be like without Motivation drain and with the Species Damage penalty off would require a totally new run that I don't have the energy or time to do.
For now, I'm just going to cheat my way past Loop 15 as I want to try some Angel Chosen and I don't feel like giving up my game progress to do so. I'll look forward to after the changes mentioned above giving Victory an honest shot with a refreshed team next release.
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Yeah I had a lot of trouble with that fight, even after the changes to Splendor. Have you beaten at least one Animalistic Chosen for the achievement, or gotten the Silver Collar? You might be able to get by without either of these but one or both will be very helpful.
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I havent warped (if that is the abandoned lab and so, when the game tells you that there is an alternative way for a city wi no chosen? I have taken none of those)
tip 1: done ( I usually take the bargain if she asks for the loop to be 1 loop harder)
tip 2: my last strategy
tip 3: Havent done that yet
tip 4: I tried to do that with a Forsaken at 30 or so EE , the numbers werent high enough
I dont have silver collar nor that many forsaken but I have 1 animalistic demon knight( I just sacrificed a bunch after getting splendor because they were almost useless to me and tantrum all the time)
one of the problems is that I can only deploy hate/expo and the devil has core hate/core inju -_-
I dont have a reliable strategy for orgy what is yours? (mostly I useforsaken with high damage hate/plea/inju but withsplendor I only have hate/expo deployable)
edit: thanks for answering
So there are a bunch of guides for days 1-15 but there aren't as many for the later stages. I keep getting stuck or having my progress grind to halt which leads to me potentially not having fully corrupted anything by the end battle. Are there any tips or guides for the later mid to endgame? I'm aware that because of the various personalities and vulnerabilities its difficult to give a play-by-play, but I've experimented with a bunch of stuff and feel like I'm hitting my head against the wall. Even when I get everyone's t3 done by like day 30 and I have the newspaper item to give me a boost, I just make bad decisions around my next actions.
I think I only had one Animalistic as well before this fight, which brings your minimum damage up to 15 so that you can make some progress at the beginning of fights.
I gather the following upgrades before Orgy: Networked Consciousness, Passion Release
My strategy for the first Orgy depends on what T2 breaks I want the Chosen to have. The most reliable one starts off with a Tempted Forsaken (I use an Undead) who does enough EXPO damage to be 1000% EXPO, but still has some expertise in PLEA. I send her out. Her cost is 4EE. She can pretty reliably do 999 EXPO damage turn 1, so I have her capture for 2 rounds to bring EXPO to level 2. Then I use her Tempt command to switch to PLEA damage, which she isn't as good at but gets a modifier to make up for. She can bring most any chosen to Level 2 PLEA in 2 turns as well, so I have her build that up until the turn before the second Chosen arrives, then Release.
Then I capture the second Chosen so she can build up EXPO damage on her. Next I surround the first Chosen with Pummel using Networked Consciousness. This may start out low damage but will grow because the second Chosen is definitely getting 999 EXPO first turn, and probably up to level 3 EXPO by the third turn of Capture. Still on the first Chosen, I issue the Grind command, which has two things building its multipliers. Somewhere in here is usually where the third Chosen comes in, I ignore her and issue another command to the first Chosen of whichever Circumstance I'm planning to Orgy (this method can use PLEA or EXPO, but EXPO is easier). By this time the second Chosen should be at 10K EXPO, so I spend a turn switching the Forsaken over to Tempt for her. Third Chosen will not remain unmolested for long--I issue the last Surround command to the first Chosen.
When the second Chosen has >10K PLEA, I use Release on her if she's got more than 1 turn remaining so she can capture the third Chosen next turn. This should be around Turn 9-10 depending on when the second Chosen enters. I then Surround the second Chosen and start raising her INJU, then HATE, then whichever I'm wanting to use for the Orgy. The third Chosen starts building off the base of the second Chosen's EXPO, so hers goes up quite fast. At this point it's easy to get her to Level 3 EXPO or, if I switch the action of the Forsaken to Tempt, I can get Level 3 PLEA instead. At some point I do have to go back and surround the first and second Chosen again.
I have different methods and Forsaken for INJU and HATE as well. They aren't quite as reliable but if I mess around with them a bit I can usually get something that works.