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SuperSkippy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have a question about Forsaken stat Deviancy. Why is it ever a good thing to have? I can't for the life of me figure out a situation where high Deviancy is good. (except for unlocking the one attack that requires 50%?)

In fact, when trying to train up a Forsaken's Hostility, I found high Deviancy actually got in the way! It actively hinders gaining Hostility% (low level training options are not giving any hostility, and high level training options they won't cooperate for)... So I must be missing something important here, since the guide advertises being able to train a forsaken without it gaining corruption % as a good thing somehow?
Yeah Deviancy is pretty much just bad to raise.
 

Doctor Shark

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Nov 7, 2019
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Am I supposed to be seeing this in Loop 1? It seems new and I'm not quite sure what it means (I guess I'll find out once I get her TICK high enough).
Judgment.png
 

Roseys

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Also small suggestion - especially with Chosen that you do the negotiation distortion, the ability to kiss them! I feel like it'd catch them off guard and also make them fall in love with the demon more/or hate them depends.

And a question - do most of the male chosen just spawn with a small penis? I've tried several different ones and they're all: small penis. And as I type this I did get one large penis after refreshing like 5-6 different times. I refreshed again and got small penis...again. I do get different heights like Average Height For A Boy, Very tall and short for a boy. After another 3-4 refreshes, I actually got petite for the first time!

And Frames like - Masculine Figure, Girlish Figure
seem to be the most common. I also just got huge penis for the first time after like 10+ refreshes. (Re-freshing is just me starting a new game and looking at the first chosen's stats.) And within the 10+ refresh, I got Feminine hips for the first time.
 
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McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
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is it normal that my pc is saying its a virus?
Is the virus warning coming from Windows Defender? Cause if it is that's normal, Windows Defender flags all programs that don't have a listed publisher as being potentially dangerous so it'll throw up a warning about the program the first time you try to open it regardless of if Windows Defender actually detected a virus.

If it wasn't Windows Defender then I don't know, but I've been playing for over a year without my anti-virus ever once getting triggered by this game so I'm almost certain it's just a false positive. Granted I only download from CSDev's Subscribestar so I cant comment on any version posted here or elsewhere, but at least here I highly doubt anyone has posted a version containing a virus in this thread.
 

MilkMan97

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Aug 9, 2019
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Man, this game REALLY needs a better tutorial. (Get Stigma to 10k INJU? Okay, HOW? 11 turns of capture isn't enough to get anything but her minor t2s active)
Following the walkthrough on the fan wiki I was able to get to somewhere around day 20 with the upgrades it recommends. Somehow they had like 50 more energy than me but i got networked consciousness eventually which is the one it said to get asap.
But I can't seem to get my last t2 breaks or really any t2 breaks at all on the third girl, who has morality/confidence core so I'm completely unable to put any damage on her whatsoever since pummel/grind does literally nothing. What am I supposed to be doing differently? Did I just get a bad generation? The other two I was at least able to get two t2 breaks on each, but now it seems I need to spend 3 days doing nothing for enough EE to afford a real commander with even a chance to get anything done.
 
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fenyx

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Jun 16, 2017
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Man, this game REALLY needs a better tutorial. (Get Stigma to 10k INJU? Okay, HOW? 11 turns of capture isn't enough to get anything but her minor t2s active)
Following the walkthrough on the fan wiki I was able to get to somewhere around day 20 with the upgrades it recommends. Somehow they had like 50 more energy than me but i got networked consciousness eventually which is the one it said to get asap.
But I can't seem to get my last t2 breaks or really any t2 breaks at all on the third girl, who has morality/confidence core so I'm completely unable to put any damage on her whatsoever since pummel/grind does literally nothing. What am I supposed to be doing differently? Did I just get a bad generation? The other two I was at least able to get two t2 breaks on each, but now it seems I need to spend 3 days doing nothing for enough EE to afford a real commander with even a chance to get anything done.
Yeah you were really unlucky but there is a workaround: exposing allies gives high multipliers so, pick the chosen with the minor dignity vulnerability and the other one second, if it still doenst work pick her third after exposing the other 2 chosen
 

McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
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Man, this game REALLY needs a better tutorial. (Get Stigma to 10k INJU? Okay, HOW? 11 turns of capture isn't enough to get anything but her minor t2s active)
Following the walkthrough on the fan wiki I was able to get to somewhere around day 20 with the upgrades it recommends. Somehow they had like 50 more energy than me but i got networked consciousness eventually which is the one it said to get asap.
But I can't seem to get my last t2 breaks or really any t2 breaks at all on the third girl, who has morality/confidence core so I'm completely unable to put any damage on her whatsoever since pummel/grind does literally nothing. What am I supposed to be doing differently? Did I just get a bad generation? The other two I was at least able to get two t2 breaks on each, but now it seems I need to spend 3 days doing nothing for enough EE to afford a real commander with even a chance to get anything done.
These may help:

General early game guide

Basic mechanics/stats/modifier guide

Also the best way to get run specific advice is to post the save here.
 

McHuman

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Nov 8, 2019
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Yeah really, one of the guides posted here or on the wiki really should just be copy/pasted into the game as a txt file, as the help documents there aren't helpful for getting you into the game, they're only useful if you already understand the broad strokes and just need to know the finer details. Though an in game tutorial wouldn't really work, or at rather it'd be a monstrous undertaking as occasionally people have attempted to use the commentary system to make an in-game tutorial save file but no one has ever finished it to my knowledge.
 

fenyx

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Jun 16, 2017
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So this is how a day 10 win looks against judgement (my tempting undead forsaken is at 30k training, and Im probably fucked from then on)
 

Nobody032

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Sep 6, 2021
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Man, this game REALLY needs a better tutorial. (Get Stigma to 10k INJU? Okay, HOW? 11 turns of capture isn't enough to get anything but her minor t2s active)
Following the walkthrough on the fan wiki I was able to get to somewhere around day 20 with the upgrades it recommends. Somehow they had like 50 more energy than me but i got networked consciousness eventually which is the one it said to get asap.
But I can't seem to get my last t2 breaks or really any t2 breaks at all on the third girl, who has morality/confidence core so I'm completely unable to put any damage on her whatsoever since pummel/grind does literally nothing. What am I supposed to be doing differently? Did I just get a bad generation? The other two I was at least able to get two t2 breaks on each, but now it seems I need to spend 3 days doing nothing for enough EE to afford a real commander with even a chance to get anything done.
Morality/Confidence core chosen are harder to break by themselves since Hate/Inju levels are the only multipliers for self circ damage. Also it's even worse if that chosen has minor dignity.

Either way you should Target the chosen which you found to be the easiest to break first and get expo on her(As stated by Fenyx) and Use the second capture for the harder chosen. With networked consciousness it should be easy.

As for the tutorial, yeah right it now it's not very helpful for new players. Though I believe a comment system update will be comming eventually which will add a proper tutorial, either by the dev himself or from one of the better players.
Yeah really, one of the guides posted here or on the wiki really should just be copy/pasted into the game as a txt file, as the help documents there aren't helpful for getting you into the game, they're only useful if you already understand the broad strokes and just need to know the finer details. Though an in game tutorial wouldn't really work, or at rather it'd be a monstrous undertaking as occasionally people have attempted to use the commentary system to make an in-game tutorial save file but no one has ever finished it to my knowledge.
Actually comment system has been broken since a long time ago because new stuff was being added and the comment system needed to be updated for every update to work properly because it kept breaking.

But I think Csdev has said that he will start working on fixing it soon so a proper tutorial will be available eventually.

Also the wiki should probably linked with the downloads in the "Extra" section. Right now it is only linked in the "resources" text file which most people won't even open.
 
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