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Truffle the mushroom girl. You meet her in this update briefly. She's not really NTR themed either. She's just a huge slut. And loves being everyone's cumdump. It's not about denying the MC either she's more than happy to fuck him too XD Extremely so since she likes him the best. She just loves to fuck. If people still object to her I can make her content entirely optional. But you'd be missing out on a lot of hot scenes.

What I am absolutely NOT going to do is take the girls who have an exclusive relationship with the protagonist. And suddenly force them into gangbangs/sharing without their input. Choose not to believe me if you like but that's not something I like seeing in games either. Sharing will only be with permission or in situations with zero expectations of it. Like truffle.

Honestly fractured worlds had a lot more sharing than is planned for this game and it never got this level of hate. I am simultaneously frustrated and confused by all this.

Also lol Quintillus guess u can't win em all XD
 
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The the excessive screen shake in the intro is pretty damn off putting.

Is that a thing through out this whole game?
No and you're not the first person to say that's excessive. I will tone it down a bit in the next update. I wanted that particular scene to seem like an absolutely devastating battle was going on. It's not something I use lightly and I personally didn't think it was excessive. But as I said you're not the first person to disagree on that score :)
 
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No and you're not the first person to say that's excessive. I will tone it down a bit in the next update. I wanted that particular scene to seem like an absolutely devastating battle was going on. It's not something I use lightly and I personally didn't think it was excessive. But as I said you're not the first person to disagree on that score :)

It probably isn't, but I have some pretty serious nerve issues so excessive effects like that get to me way to easy sadly.

If you could just add an option to turn it off, that would be perfect IMO.
 

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Truffle the mushroom girl. You meet her in this update briefly. She's not really NTR themed either. She's just a huge slut. And loves being everyone's cumdump. It's not about denying the MC either she's more than happy to fuck him too XD Extremely so since she likes him the best. She just loves to fuck. If people still object to her I can make her content entirely optional. But you'd be missing out on a lot of hot scenes.

What I am absolutely NOT going to do is take the girls who have an exclusive relationship with the protagonist. And suddenly force them into gangbangs/sharing without their input. Choose not to believe me if you like but that's not something I like seeing in games either. Sharing will only be with permission or in situations with zero expectations of it. Like truffle.

Honestly fractured worlds had a lot more sharing than is planned for this game and it never got this level of hate. I am simultaneously frustrated and confused by all this.

Also lol Quintillus guess u can't win em all XD
I'm not sure if it was addressed to me or not, but since it is written under my comment and without indication, I will assume that yes.
And I'll tell you what, I personally don't like whores.
Especially the ones that just want to get on anything that looks like a dick.
And if I understand you correctly, this mushroom is a LI.
So if there are a lot of such characters in the game, then the game is definitely not for me.
 

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People sure like to worry a lot.
I'll probably grab this on itch come next month (when I actually have money).
 

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Truffle the mushroom girl. You meet her in this update briefly. She's not really NTR themed either. She's just a huge slut. And loves being everyone's cumdump. It's not about denying the MC either she's more than happy to fuck him too XD Extremely so since she likes him the best. She just loves to fuck. If people still object to her I can make her content entirely optional. But you'd be missing out on a lot of hot scenes.

What I am absolutely NOT going to do is take the girls who have an exclusive relationship with the protagonist. And suddenly force them into gangbangs/sharing without their input. Choose not to believe me if you like but that's not something I like seeing in games either. Sharing will only be with permission or in situations with zero expectations of it. Like truffle.

Honestly fractured worlds had a lot more sharing than is planned for this game and it never got this level of hate. I am simultaneously frustrated and confused by all this.
Thanks for your answer
Hot is subjective innit? ;)
Never tried fractured worlds - must be some tangible difference at play though.

I'm not sure if it was addressed to me or not, but since it is written under my comment and without indication, I will assume that yes.
And I'll tell you what, I personally don't like whores.
Especially the ones that just want to get on anything that looks like a dick.
And if I understand you correctly, this mushroom is a LI.
So if there are a lot of such characters in the game, then the game is definitely not for me.
That is fair. I will probably avoid/skip slutshoom's content as well- unless it is with the protag or fxf. She sounds kinda like Qum from TLS or Cait from CoCII. (some of my least favorite companions from those titles.)

One doesn't need to like every character/route to like a game though. My favorite gal in COD is Willow and she is quite lovely.
 
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It was addressed to you. And then you probably won't like truffle. Or Keikyu/Hanabi. But they are just 3 girls. The game has lots of girls. My intent is to have different girls appeal to different people. You may not like a few of the girls in the game. But there will be plenty in the game for you to like. That's why I keep responding to this kinda stuff. My intent is to make each girl a different prospect. And give the palyer some agency in determining how the relationship goes at points. Some girls like truffle are just what they are. But you should find plenty of content that appeals to you regardless.

What I don't like is the implication that I have some kind of agenda here. Like I'm trying to force a bait and switch. Or I'm pandering to one aspect specifically. I like harems and I will maintain at least choice when it comes to sharing within the harem aspect of the game. But there are characters that fall outside the harem aspect of the game.

Truffle never really becomes a love interest. Not romantically. If the player engages with her she just becomes a very good sex friend. They like each other but neither are under any illusions about what their relationship is. And it doesn't really go a romantic way.

With Raia sharing is never a thing she's utterly devoted to you. With Willow sharing only becomes a thing if the MC actively encourages it. Pepper doesn't share. Vanda has an optional sharing scene with Raia as a futa spell. But other than that is exclusive. Absinthe doesn't share unless you encourage it. The other three party members who are not yet ingame don't share. Out of the side characters who are optional futa. Only one of them shares with you. Of the two 'priest' human characters one of them becomes very whorish if you encourage it. She has a route where she is your devoted servant or she goes off the rails entirely. It is the players choice. The other doesn't share. Samantha doesn't share and neither does Tung Mei.

And that's it my entire nefarious plan laid bare lol.
 
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It probably isn't, but I have some pretty serious nerve issues so excessive effects like that get to me way to easy sadly.

If you could just add an option to turn it off, that would be perfect IMO.
Hmm shouldn't be too hard to make a switch to tone down instances where that might be an issue. I'll see what I can do :)
 
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NTR isn't sharing. Period. End of Line.
It is actually.
NTR is three categories Netori which is the protag stealing a girl, Netorare getting out right cucked, and netorase which is sharing your girls and cucking yourself on purpose basically. Hate to break it to you. The original cuckold concept itself was willingly sharing your women with other people and watching it.

Personally as long as they're not main love interests or party members I'd just avoid them or as long as I can just not take them into the party disregarding thots with no loyality. I don't care that much unless thats like the majority of the content of the game(clearly isn't based on what you've said), now if one of these characters is forced on me. Now thats annoying. Sounds like that isn't going to be a problem though?
 
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It is actually.
NTR is three categories Netori which is the protag stealing a girl, Netorare getting out right cucked, and netorase which is sharing your girls and cucking yourself on purpose basically. Hate to break it to you. The original cuckold concept itself was willingly sharing your women with other people and watching it.
NTR or , ( . 寝取られ, 寝(ne) as in 寝取られ means "sleep", in this case, " sleeping with someone (cheating)". 取られ(torare) is a noun coming from 取られる(torareru), "have something stolen/robbed".

Per dictionary NTR = NETORARE, not Netori and not Netorase, as those are different concepts entirely as you well explaned in your comment.

At this point ppl are screaming NTR at everything, i have seen a dev driven nuts buy ppl screaming ntr at his game because
one of LIs kissed a girl at some point, its getting completely out of control, soon if LI is not wearing hijab at all times it will be ntr.
 

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NTR or , ( . 寝取られ, 寝(ne) as in 寝取られ means "sleep", in this case, " sleeping with someone (cheating)". 取られ(torare) is a noun coming from 取られる(torareru), "have something stolen/robbed".

Per dictionary NTR = NETORARE, not Netori and not Netorase, as those are different concepts entirely as you well explaned in your comment.

At this point ppl are screaming NTR at everything, i have seen a dev driven nuts buy ppl screaming ntr at his game because
one of LIs kissed a girl at some point, its getting completely out of control, soon if LI is not wearing hijab at all times it will be ntr.
https://f95zone.to/threads/in-depth-guide-and-difference-between-netorare-netori-and-netorase.83477/

We have a literal thread on this and even vndb which is the biggest porn game tagging site uses those 3 terms.

The same site you linked even has listed and probably netori also

Also the last part of your post is a complete strawman used to disregard peoples complaints and I've quite literally never seen anyone actually do that. You're being entirely disingenuous on purpose to poison the well of this discussion basically.
 

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It is actually.
NTR is three categories Netori which is the protag stealing a girl, Netorare getting out right cucked, and netorase which is sharing your girls and cucking yourself on purpose basically. Hate to break it to you. The original cuckold concept itself was willingly sharing your women with other people and watching it.

Personally as long as they're not main love interests or party members I'd just avoid them or as long as I can just not take them into the party disregarding thots with no loyality. I don't care that much, now if one of these characters is forced on me. Now thats annoying.
Well if you want to define it that way you can. But I think it's a very misleading definition when it comes to hentai because in 99% of cases when you label something as NTR you are talking about a story where the protagonist is cucked .. usually by someone more masculine and in a very nasty way. Also sharing in this case refers to acts where the MC is an active participant in the act. Most of my 'sharing' occurs in threesomes+ There is ONE optional scene later where you could make an argument for him voyeuristically sharing. But in all other cases the MC is either an active participant or not present at all. And there's going to be a lot of scenes.

So you can make an argument that it is present? Sure .. I mean .. technically. like .. maybe one scene falls under your definitons of 'ntr' (The one I just mentioned.) But it's entirely optional. So honestly this just strikes me as pendantry at this point. This game is going to contain a lot of things. And we can bleed ink all over the place about what does and doesn't constitute NTR. But my fear is that the very discussion itself will put people who otherwise might be into the game off it. Because of the common implication of said tag. Which is some dude sitting in the corner crying and fapping while the love of his life gets impregnated by a megacock. Let's be real here .. that's what people think when they read that.

And that's not this game .. AT ALL. I also intentionally strayed from the traditional 'harem game' definition because I personally found the idea of having a game that had every woman in the world slavishly loyal to you for now reason to be off putting and done to death. This game is something different .. Sure, But it's not a 'cuck game'. I want to avoid giving it a label that will make people think that. Because it simply isn't true.
 
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https://f95zone.to/threads/in-depth-guide-and-difference-between-netorare-netori-and-netorase.83477/

We have a literal thread on this and even vndb which is the biggest porn game tagging site uses those 3 terms.

The same site you linked even has listed and probably netori also

Also the last part of your post is a complete strawman used to disregard peoples complaints and I've quite literally never seen anyone actually do that. You're being entirely disingenuous on purpose to poison the well of this discussion basically.
I fail to find an equation between NTR = Netorase or NTR = Netori in any of the places you mentioned.
I can see NTR = Netorare, and the other two being mentioned or defined, in no scenario as NTR simply as separate terms.
 

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Well if you want to define it that way you can. But I think it's a very misleading definition when it comes to hentai because in 99% of cases when you label something as NTR you are talking about a story where the protagonist is cucked .. usually by someone more masculine and in a very nasty way. Also sharing in this case refers to acts where the MC is an active participant in the act. Most of my 'sharing' occurs in threesomes+ There is ONE optional scene later where you could make an argument for him voyeuristically sharing. But in all other cases the MC is either an active participant or not present at all. And there's going to be a lot of scenes.

So you can make an argument that it is present? Sure .. I mean .. technically. like .. maybe one scene falls under your definitons of 'ntr' (The one I just mentioned.) But it's entirely optional. So honestly this just strikes me as pendantry at this point. This game is going to contain a lot of things. And we can bleed ink all over the place about what does and doesn't constitute NTR. But my fear is that the very discussion itself will put people who otherwise might be into the game off it. Because of the common implication of said tag. Which is some dude sitting in the corner crying and fapping while the love of his life gets impregnated by a megacock. Let's be real here .. that's what people think when they read that.

And that's not this game .. AT ALL.
I agree that NTR is mainly used in reference to netorare, but its technically 3 sub categories and leads to general confusion and its not my definition. I got it from vndb and other tagging sites. I also agree that is generally what people think when they see it, because this site isn't splitting up the tags like they should with something that is just Netori. But you should know that the reality here is that, sharing a girl with another dude is going to have the exact same reaction as the jerking off in a corner thing crying thing, so it doesn't matter much. As you can already tell from other posts in the thread.

I'm willing to give the game a shot since it sounds like disloyal thots are avoidable, as long as I can just disregard the thotroom and girls like her. I can just not give a shit unless the scenes where the mc isn't involved or is sharing girls with other dudes is a large part of the content.
 

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Honestly I wouldn't mind having the well poisoned a bit I mean well .. I'd love it if people in this topic were talking about my actual game. Rather than complaining about this one aspect. The game is new and I would really love feedback. What characters do you like? What mechanics are good and what ones don't hit so well? I'd LOVE to hear about your impressions of the story. Or the quality of the hentai content. I'm just so upset that THIS is what it all seems to boil down to. I mean .. maybe that's a good sign? No one's saying my game is shit and I have good reviews. But I am hungry for feedback that can help me improve the game going forward. I am very passionate about this project and I want it to be the best game it can be. It's about more for me than simply churning out something that hits the prime fetishes.

I'm not stupid if I wanted to do that I'd be making a harem incest game. With all of the things that crowd seem to want. But it's been done SO MANY TIMES. Sometimes quite well .. I quite like those games myself actually. But I really didn't want to make another one .. it's just so .. old.
 

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Honestly I wouldn't mind having the well poisoned a bit I mean well .. I'd love it if people in this topic were talking about my actual game. Rather than complaining about this one aspect. The game is new and I would really love feedback. What characters do you like? What mechanics are good and what ones don't hit so well? I'd LOVE to hear about your impressions of the story. Or the quality of the hentai content. I'm just so upset that THIS is what it all seems to boil down to. I mean .. maybe that's a good sign? No one's saying my game is shit and I have good reviews. But I am hungry for feedback that can help me improve the game going forward. I am very passionate about this project and I want it to be the best game it can be. It's about more for me than simply churning out something that hits the prime fetishes.

I'm not stupid if I wanted to do that I'd be making a harem incest game. With all of the things that crowd seem to want. But it's been done SO MANY TIMES. Sometimes quite well .. I quite like those games myself actually. But I really didn't want to make another one .. it's just so .. old.
Enough devs/hentai artists have dropped that sort of content on people out of no where that people are gunshy. Blame those devs. As for other types of feedback, I'll try to leave some if I find any problems when I play it later.

Though like you sort of mention here, the fact people actually cared about enough to be pissed about the gangbang. Should tell you something about the characters likability outside of that at least. Because otherwise the feedback would have been exile her ass instead of wanting it to something that can be prevented.

I mean look at Cait from coc 2. The general reaction is, I like jerking in the corner while she fucks other dudes or I wish I could put a bullet in her skull. I rarely see any sort of middle ground there.
 
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It was addressed to you. And then you probably won't like truffle. Or Keikyu/Hanabi. But they are just 3 girls. The game has lots of girls. My intent is to have different girls appeal to different people. You may not like a few of the girls in the game. But there will be plenty in the game for you to like. That's why I keep responding to this kinda stuff. My intent is to make each girl a different prospect. And give the palyer some agency in determining how the relationship goes at points. Some girls like truffle are just what they are. But you should find plenty of content that appeals to you regardless.

What I don't like is the implication that I have some kind of agenda here. Like I'm trying to force a bait and switch. Or I'm pandering to one aspect specifically. I like harems and I will maintain at least choice when it comes to sharing within the harem aspect of the game. But there are characters that fall outside the harem aspect of the game.

Truffle never really becomes a love interest. Not romantically. If the player engages with her she just becomes a very good sex friend. They like each other but neither are under any illusions about what their relationship is. And it doesn't really go a romantic way.

With Raia sharing is never a thing she's utterly devoted to you. With Willow sharing only becomes a thing if the MC actively encourages it. Pepper doesn't share. Vanda has an optional sharing scene with Raia as a futa spell. But other than that is exclusive. Absinthe doesn't share unless you encourage it. The other three party members who are not yet ingame don't share. Out of the side characters who are optional futa. Only one of them shares with you. Of the two 'priest' human characters one of them becomes very whorish if you encourage it. She has a route where she is your devoted servant or she goes off the rails entirely. It is the players choice. The other doesn't share. Samantha doesn't share and neither does Tung Mei.

And that's it my entire nefarious plan laid bare lol.
I do not particularly like polemics on this topic, because I know from experience how it will end.
So I'll just try to summarize and ask simple questions to understand things that are not obvious.
Next comes IMHO.
The mushroom will still be LI/potential LI. Because it is not necessary to have a purely romantic relationship.
She will not LI if she is an optional, third-party character with no influence on the story, contact with whom is exclusively optional or has no contact with the protagonist, and the amount of content is rather scanty or non-existent.
Well, one more small detail. For me, a harem is the monopolization of all characters suitable for a harem. And as I understand it, your game is not about that.

Well, regarding the questions, in order to complete my journey in this topic for sure.
1. Can the MC name be customized?
2. Is "3 Letters" planned to be completely avoidable? (for ease of understanding my question 3 letters = "Someone other than MC fucks LI / potential LI")
3. What is the ratio of content 3 letters / not 3 letters planned?


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Truffle the mushroom girl. You meet her in this update briefly. She's not really NTR themed either. She's just a huge slut. And loves being everyone's cumdump. It's not about denying the MC either she's more than happy to fuck him too XD Extremely so since she likes him the best. She just loves to fuck. If people still object to her I can make her content entirely optional. But you'd be missing out on a lot of hot scenes.
She sounds like fun.
Honestly fractured worlds had a lot more sharing than is planned for this game and it never got this level of hate. I am simultaneously frustrated and confused by all this.
Don't limit your creativity just because a couple of manbabies keep whining.
Just keep doing your thing. :giggle::coffee:
Also, you can click on their avatar and press "ignore," that will clear out the nuisance.
Pretty much essential feature for keeping sanity in this place. ;):coffee:
If it gets too annoying ask the mods to clean up the ntr bullshit from the thread, it happens often so don't worry.
 
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