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oh shit im totally lost there now XD sorry part of the fault is that im not english native so sometimes i get things wrong. As for Elena its still fucking disappointing and sad since i can't stand NTR, i fucking hate it (but thats just me, im not forcing anyone here). I hope they get back on track before the game is finished. And again sorry for misunderstanding what you said earlier :)
No problem, i was not clear, because i wrote to the writer who is a part of MrDots team, and he should know what i mean. But yes, I hate NTR stuff too, especially if its forced on you, I know many people only care about the daughter, but for fans of the other girls, its terrible. :confounded:
 

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No problem, i was not clear, because i wrote to the writer who is a part of MrDots team, and he should know what i mean. But yes, I hate NTR stuff too, especially if its forced on you, I know many people only care about the daughter, but for fans of the other girls, its terrible. :confounded:
Well i said i played the faithful route, but i do care about other girls too xD... Maybe on second new game ill play the harem route if its there ahahah
 

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No problem, i was not clear, because i wrote to the writer who is a part of MrDots team, and he should know what i mean. But yes, I hate NTR stuff too, especially if its forced on you, I know many people only care about the daughter, but for fans of the other girls, its terrible. :confounded:
I’m confused at the “NTR” reference to Elena.

1. Elena may never remain exclusively sexual with any one character. That, imo, is part of her character.
2. Netorare is a reference toward infidelity. Since Elena has never been faithful to anyone, how can she then be guilty or infidelity?
3. We have women patrons/players. Are you saying for the male sex, playing the field is okay, but for the women players, a female playing the field is prohibited.
4. Where you say NTR, I see much more. Are you saying that all the books and movies below you would never watch or read because of views if NTR?

  • Hunger Games' Katniss–Gale–Peeta. ...
  • Casablanca's Rick–Ilsa–Victor. ...
  • Gone With the Wind: Scarlett O'Hara, Rhett Butler, Ashley Wilkes. ...
  • The Great Gatsby: Jay Gatsby, Daisy Buchanan, Tom Buchanan. ...
  • X-Men, X2, and X-Men: Last Stand: Scott, Jean, and Logan (James Marsden, Famke Janssen, and Hugh Jackman)
  • Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack, Elizabeth, and Will (Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Keira Knightley)

Btw, can you clarify exactly what was NTR in the last release? Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but Elena spent some time with the farm boy and they kissed. ... While she made alone time available for MC & D.
 

marispiper

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I’m confused at the “NTR” reference to Elena.

1. Elena may never remain exclusively sexual with any one character. That, imo, is part of her character.
2. Netorare is a reference toward infidelity. Since Elena has never been faithful to anyone, how can she then be guilty or infidelity?
3. We have women patrons/players. Are you saying for the male sex, playing the field is okay, but for the women players, a female playing the field is prohibited.
4. Where you say NTR, I see much more. Are you saying that all the books and movies below you would never watch or read because of views if NTR?

  • Hunger Games' Katniss–Gale–Peeta. ...
  • Casablanca's Rick–Ilsa–Victor. ...
  • Gone With the Wind: Scarlett O'Hara, Rhett Butler, Ashley Wilkes. ...
  • The Great Gatsby: Jay Gatsby, Daisy Buchanan, Tom Buchanan. ...
  • X-Men, X2, and X-Men: Last Stand: Scott, Jean, and Logan (James Marsden, Famke Janssen, and Hugh Jackman)
  • Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack, Elizabeth, and Will (Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Keira Knightley)

Btw, can you clarify exactly what was NTR in the last release? Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but Elena spent some time with the farm boy and they kissed. ... While she made alone time available for MC & D.
Well said and I agree wholeheartedly, Elena is a free spirit and I wouldn't have her any other way, bless her.
That said however I am also looking forward to the (a-hem') sharing aspect later in the game.
Enjoying your blog Jeff btw!
 
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King Melodias

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Hi, its not forced NTR with the daughter(at least not yet) but with Elena. I care alot about all the girls so for me it was very disappointing, i was even schocked, never ever thought i would see that in DMD, but yeah, i guess that is one of the downsides of having so many different writers, all can change fast.
As far I recall that scene, Elena does not NTR you, I believe she simply leaves with the other guy and if you are on the Elena path she doesn't even cheat on you. And if someone else falls in love with Elena other then the PC, well that's logicall. Elena is way cuter then D. Either way, I did not write that scene :)

I've been writing Elena and Jenn since the update Jenn says hi :)
Did some minor D related writing too and Lucas and Richard at the start.

Fun fact: I wrote a script where Elena was pregnant, and it was a real fun scene. Let me see if I can find it.
 
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As far I recall that scene, Elena does not NTR you, I believe she simply leaves with the other guy and if you are on the Elena path she doesn't even cheat on you. And if someone else falls in love with Elena other then the PC, well that's logicall. Elena is way cuter then D. Either way, I did not write that scene :)

I've been writing Elena and Jenn since the update Jenn says hi :)
Did some minor D related writing too and Lucas and Richard at the start.

Fun fact: I wrote a script where Elena was pregnant, and it was a real fun scene. Let me see if I can find it.
Ok, good, seems you write some good stuff! ;) It was NTR, because during the dance and they also kissed! Thing is it would have been so easy to just give you the choice to skip that, DMD always had those choices, but oh well.

Pregnant Elena lol, with her little body :D
 

King Melodias

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there both cute D and Elena i always go for them both
but it whould be cool to impregnate them both toghetor
and they whould all 3 stay toghetor if D alows it offcoarsse
whill there be a harem route aswhell @Roschar
I think there will be a harem route but not in the way people envision it.
What I'm saying now is my own opinion. Has nothing to do with the writing of the script but I cannot see a full harem ending.
Atleast, I'm not creative enough to write that without additional input. Ofcourse Hearsz, MR, dots, Jeff or any other writer might do it but I think an elegant solution will be a fan service chapter. [Like those Japanese ero games]

Either way, I said I'd post the Elena preggo scene, it was a bit wonky and written for April fool's day.
 

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As far I recall that scene, Elena does not NTR you, I believe she simply leaves with the other guy and if you are on the Elena path she doesn't even cheat on you. And if someone else falls in love with Elena other then the PC, well that's logicall. Elena is way cuter then D. Either way, I did not write that scene :)

I've been writing Elena and Jenn since the update Jenn says hi :)
Did some minor D related writing too and Lucas and Richard at the start.

Fun fact: I wrote a script where Elena was pregnant, and it was a real fun scene. Let me see if I can find it.
Please write more Elena and Jennifer.And don't forget Georgina.
 

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I’m confused at the “NTR” reference to Elena.

1. Elena may never remain exclusively sexual with any one character. That, imo, is part of her character.
2. Netorare is a reference toward infidelity. Since Elena has never been faithful to anyone, how can she then be guilty or infidelity?
3. We have women patrons/players. Are you saying for the male sex, playing the field is okay, but for the women players, a female playing the field is prohibited.
4. Where you say NTR, I see much more. Are you saying that all the books and movies below you would never watch or read because of views if NTR?

  • Hunger Games' Katniss–Gale–Peeta. ...
  • Casablanca's Rick–Ilsa–Victor. ...
  • Gone With the Wind: Scarlett O'Hara, Rhett Butler, Ashley Wilkes. ...
  • The Great Gatsby: Jay Gatsby, Daisy Buchanan, Tom Buchanan. ...
  • X-Men, X2, and X-Men: Last Stand: Scott, Jean, and Logan (James Marsden, Famke Janssen, and Hugh Jackman)
  • Pirates of the Caribbean: Jack, Elizabeth, and Will (Johnny Depp, Orlando Bloom, Keira Knightley)

Btw, can you clarify exactly what was NTR in the last release? Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly, but Elena spent some time with the farm boy and they kissed. ... While she made alone time available for MC & D.
Answered like a true lawyer. LOL
But yes Elena can't be unfaithful if she is not in a relationship, and it is doubtful Elena could ever be in a long term monogamous relationship (even with the father or D).
 

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Answered like a true lawyer. LOL
But yes Elena can't be unfaithful if she is not in a relationship, and it is doubtful Elena could ever be in a long term monogamous relationship (even with the father or D).
If you are on Elena route, she is confused. The events made her unsure of the F's intentions and caused her a lot of stress... For what I have seen it is just a kiss. Plus If I am not being faithful (at least 2 other girls besides Elena and going after the photoshoot girl too) she can have her fun too.

I think she is willing to have F as her sole partner but she needs to figure out what F really feels about her.
 
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I wonder when people will finally realise that NTR/cuckoldry as a genre of porn doesn't exclusively refer to a married/girlfriend cheating, but generally to an EROTIC INTEREST of the MC fantasising about or having sex with another character. Like all genres of porn it's about the general feeling this causes in the player, not about the specific, unimportant details of the relationship between the characters. Some people love this feeling of being sidelined or seeing a "free spirited" girl, others hate it and want to fantasise about being the only "man" in the story, and that's just the way it is.
 

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I wonder when people will finally realise that NTR/cuckoldry as a genre of porn doesn't exclusively refer to a married/girlfriend cheating, but generally to an EROTIC INTEREST of the MC fantasising about or having sex with another character. Like all genres of porn it's about the general feeling this causes in the player, not about the specific, unimportant details of the relationship between the characters. Some people love this feeling of being sidelined or seeing a "free spirited" girl, others hate it and want to fantasise about being the only "man" in the story, and that's just the way it is.
I look at these in gradients - so imo:

NTR - this is a betrayal and sex by one’s partner that the betrayed person does not wish for. Btw, ntr can be without the victim partner’s knowledge.

Cuckold - this is a more willing “betrayal” to a wanted “betrayal” where “victim” partner is put in some secondary position to the bull

Hotwife/Hot-girlfriend - partner has sex with another but little to no secondary status for the woman’s permanent partner (e.g., spouse still keeps an alpha role)

Polyamory - My use of this term is where three or more persons are in an equal 3+ way relationship with each other. Imo, this is the best outcome for Elena/MC/D ... with adding Georgina and Jennifer as necessary. It isn’t per se a harem ending but an ending with all in a quasi family ending with Georgina picking up more of a maternal mode.
 

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I think there will be a harem route but not in the way people envision it.
What I'm saying now is my own opinion. Has nothing to do with the writing of the script but I cannot see a full harem ending.
Atleast, I'm not creative enough to write that without additional input. Ofcourse Hearsz, MR, dots, Jeff or any other writer might do it but I think an elegant solution will be a fan service chapter. [Like those Japanese ero games]

Either way, I said I'd post the Elena preggo scene, it was a bit wonky and written for April fool's day.
I love the pregnancy dream sequence. As to a harem ending, see my note above about a polyamorous relationship ending.

I can see D taking in Elena as the VN has that path now scripted. Imo, the way to pick up Georgina is to bring her in to benefit D’s career and to act as a mother figure. Jennifer is picked up as a friend to E&J. In essence, D’s acceptance is pegged to non sexual elements, and the sex then comes secondary and not as the focus.
 

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I was joking earlier that I tend (when I do write) to write for the older female characters (Georgina, Rachel, and working something for Bethany in Melody) ... have no idea how old everyone is but I assume I’m the oldest of those who submit to DMD ... wild guess in the dark. I also tend to like to write dark scenes (emotionally that is). — sex scenes and up scenes, not so much my forte.

Oldest??? maybe...maybe not.... 1952 close??

Edit: Oops... you said "submit" to DMD....I misunderstood...my bad but 66 is still pretty old to be playing these games..(I think)...

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geno4952

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Well said and I agree wholeheartedly, Elena is a free spirit and I wouldn't have her any other way, bless her.
That said however I am also looking forward to the (a-hem') sharing aspect later in the game.
Enjoying your blog Jeff btw!

Yeah.... what he said ^^^.... I was kinda looking forward to the F-D-E threesome,, maybe 4 if Jen shows up.....oh yeah... pretty please....LOL!!!
 
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Oldest??? maybe...maybe not.... 1952 close??

Edit: Oops... you said "submit" to DMD....I misunderstood...my bad but 66 is still pretty old to be playing these games..(I think)...

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No, these games are timeless. And can I just say that if they are not already, when I enter a retirement home, we all are going to be linked up with online PVP shooter games a what not.

Unlike this band, I was not born in the 50’s.
 
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