VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[slackster]

Out of curiosity I'd like too see DMD 1.0 as it was envisioned.

So would most of us who were on board at the beginning before MrDots cucked to the wingers
Maybe that directors cut idea Jeff mentioned in passing

 

[Skode]

IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.

Its four years in. Why bother adding it in at all list far into a games development besides pissing off those who have been on board with the story for this long? Nobody has supported the game for this whole time with the sole mind of tossing her around like a hot potato from one dick onto another and whilst there has been oodles of non-F/D only content its never been D with other guys. He should have just done this with another game for ended DMD and started DMD 2 where its clearly and strongly threaded into the narrative from day one vs just becoming a thing 4 chapters into the existing game and hes openly confessed struggling with the balance. I don't care if shes shared or not and im not playing a F/D only route personally - my issue is the implementation. I even said he should have done what he did with Melody - add in all the cuck stuff as there is still demand for it however little but as extra scenes. Hell i'd probably watch a bukkake D scene if it was there in an extras gallery but I don't want it randomly shoe horned into the story in the final chapter just because.

I dont buy this BS its been planned all along guff though - screw what tags were there four years ago, its no secret Bestiality was there, plans changed years ago. If he wanted this so bad it'd have been a thing now as its sure as hell not stopped him getting in the way of giving F all these other girls to bang or all the oodles of lesbian content - his priorities have been clear and obvious for a long time now. This is late game pandering to chase a quick buck (as game is literally ending final chapter next year having already extended it, further proof that plans of his have changed from original ones) as for all there is a vocal minority of F/D only players id argue the number of people wanting cuck content is equally as small and equally as annoying with how vocal and repetive they are on the matter.

 

[zehyr]

I still dont know why a lot of players only want a d/f path with only vanilla content. Somes of theme try to... blackmail the team? If you don't choose my point of view, i stop pay for this game?

Come on, you are not buying a product. Remember, it's a game, with a lot of CHOICE.

So it disturb you if some players can choose others paths?

You don't respect the team, you don't respect all player community, you only think about yourself.

why???

 

[Why are you gae?]

why???

They’re just possessive. Over a virtual pussy. Lmao

 

[Lex Liber]

IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.

Personally, I want to the sharing paths (and perhaps even more harder paths) are available for selection in the game. But I want this on one condition - that these choices/refusals of paths (and the decisions of the characters on these paths) will be motivated on the background of the unity of the F/D pair and dictated (or refused) thanks to the shades of personal motivations (include deviations) F or D or F / D of both as individuals (rather than just pressing a toggle button). Not like "it just has to be" anyway even if these paths completely contradict the nature of F / D personalities, or make them flat.

This allows you to preserve the integrity of the narrative, the integrity of the characters' images as they are, as individuals (regardless of the chosen path). This is what the F/D path advocates want. They want F and D to stay on their own and not turn into an inconsistent mosaic of sharp instant impulses, and flat sex dolls.

And finally, even on the clean path of F/D, this couple has so many plans and obstacles that I disagree that even on this path, the game should end in chapter 3. Rather, on the contrary, if personalities F and D were to make it flatter only in order to massively represent the whole bunch of deviations, then only such a model will very soon make you lose interest in the game (when the characters are flat and all the animations are viewed, you simply delete the game and look for something that contains interesting characters, and not only list of the modern Kama Sutra).

Also IMO of course.

 

[ptahn]

IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.

The story I signed up for was not sharing Dee with other men which was the focus of the story for a long time. I'm fine with enjoying other rides, I just don't want Dee to be the ride that others are enjoying.

 

[Lex Liber]

Making D accessible to everyone and everything is the same as making all characters be D - D loves D, D \ D fuck D + D, DDDD..0000 and so on. It is an "everything and nothing" strategy that simply leads to a loss of individuality and a blurring of the plot and the game to zero.

 

[slackster]

Making D accessible to everyone and everything

You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game from reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC has to make will never be yours.

 

[Skode]

You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game form reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC makes will never be yours.

Very true, so my point in making this randomly a thing four years into the games development is absolute bullshit based on the years of not my writing or yours but Mr Dots presentation of the story. Im basing my concerns from the years of playing HIS story - as such you gotta look at what you said yourself.

Look its the devs prerogative to shit the bed shoe horning a sharing storyline in the very last chapter to the longest running adult VN out there whether that burns a lot of good will to pander to a minority last minute or not. If there was a sharing path going as long as say the F has been fucking half these other girls I don't think you would have been seeing the resistance your seeing, in fact I would have stood besides you shouting the naysayers down besides you. That's NOT whats happened though based on HIS story, not by a long shot and whilst the father has been shown to be into tapping anything with a pulse practically since the earliest of stages of the story this hasn't been the case with the D whom not only has become so besotted with said Father than she was readily giving up everything to be with him, move away and in with him, readily and willingly losing her V to him and now planning to marry him.

If she had a wandering eye from early stages of the story then a relationship with say Martin would not have felt forced but rather organic and if she was checking out say horse dong way back on her visit to the farm id be like 'ah, shes into beastiality' but this is not whats been presented in HIS story nor have we seen any sentimentality from the offset of F wanting to share D, in fact he was over possessive of her with other guys who wanted to get close and personal to her. The closest early example of this being a thing id argue is actually tangible (her getting a compliment from Martin is hardly a sign of please fuck my D buddy and if anything it being a choice shows its something the MC second thinks about vs just overlooking it by canon default as well, this after all was his clearly defined nature like I said) was the peeper but then it was also a choice and involved zero contact or sharing with said peeper but instead voyeurism which is NOT sharing or cuckolding. Still I guess hes a year to completely unravel and 180 degree defined characters even more and maybe we get to fuck her M too as after all that would make zero sense but people want to and apparently that's all it takes in HIS story.

Well anyway im about done with this discussion. Im certainly done with anyone not agreeing with others demanded kinks being called out as whiners ignoring most of the well thought out and presented arguments most of us have been making. Ive written paragraph after paragraph on the matter giving example after example of ingame stuff which contradicts this route not being anything but forced, poorly implemented and just shilling for the coin. Im finding myself repeating myself at this point whilst most others are not making many points at all regarding the game and just what they want in it. Still at least weve most case been civil about it despite heated points - we are all fans of the game after all. Nothing wrong with sharing D... with each other on the forums that is lol

 

[ptahn]

You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game from reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC has to make will never be yours.

This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read. The whole point is to be a player and insert yourself into the role of MC; that's why you get to name MC, that's why it's told POV.

 

[Trikus]

Some people seem to be unaware of character progression. Imagine D as a dam. Before the game starts she is a dam, standing strong. Her mother has sheltered her so much that she is full of self doubt and her emotions are buried deep down. In Chapter 1, the dam starts to fracture. Meeting F she finds someone who is actually encouraging her to do new things. In Chapter 2 a hole has appeared in the dam. After she experiences her first orgasm, she starts doing more sexual stuff and starts to open up to new possibilities. Chapter 3 the dam has burst. She has started exploring sex and what options are available thanks to watching porn more.

For some reason people seem to think the sharing paths lead her on the way to being an insatiable sex fiend who wants to star in a re-enactment of Debbie Does Dallas or something. D Does Seaside? It just shows that most are unaware of the story on sharing paths. D is only interested in sharing as long as F is involved. They both agreed that anything they do with others is just sex and will not interfere with their love and relationship. F did not give her free reign to go out and have sex and neither does she want to. If any character is on the "insatiable sex fiend" path it is Elena.

 

[Xiphais]

Some People just don't like sharing D in general whether F is involved or not.

 

[ptahn]

Some people seem to be unaware of character progression. Imagine D as a dam. Before the game starts she is a dam, standing strong. Her mother has sheltered her so much that she is full of self doubt and her emotions are buried deep down. In Chapter 1, the dam starts to fracture. Meeting F she finds someone who is actually encouraging her to do new things. In Chapter 2 a hole has appeared in the dam. After she experiences her first orgasm, she starts doing more sexual stuff and starts to open up to new possibilities. Chapter 3 the dam has burst. She has started exploring sex and what options are available thanks to watching porn more.

For some reason people seem to think the sharing paths lead her on the way to being an insatiable sex fiend who wants to star in a re-enactment of Debbie Does Dallas or something. D Does Seaside? It just shows that most are unaware of the story on sharing paths. D is only interested in sharing as long as F is involved. They both agreed that anything they do with others is just sex and will not interfere with their love and relationship. F did not give her free reign to go out and have sex and neither does she want to. If any character is on the "insatiable sex fiend" path it is Elena.

I disagree totally. I don't think the sharing path turns her into a sex friend. I just don't like sharing LI's in any story with other men. That's why there are both paths. I never cared that there some scenes with other men that I could avoid. My complaint is that after four years the focus on that content has been greatly expanded. I played two updates at one time and got less content than I used to get in one.

You like metaphors, I like metaphors. Let's say that Taco Bell (I haven't eaten at a Taco Bell for years. At the time, I did not care for it hence my not visiting there again; but for all I know we could be on our way to all restaurants being Taco Bell [I like allusion as well.] I want to avoid a Pro/Con Taco Bell debate.) decides after all these years that they going offer hamburgers to their menu to try to attract more customers. Few people would complain. But let's say to do this they have to take off a lot of their "Mexican food" of the menu. You would not be surprised if many of their customers were unhappy. They go to Taco Bell for "Mexican food" not burgers. If they want burgers, they would go someplace else. I (and as you see others as well) don't play DMD to share Dee with other men. I little bit of optional sharing was fine. To significantly reduce the content which had been the focus of the game for so long is to what I object.

PS: Mexican food was in quotes because, well, we are talking about Taco Bell.

 

[Lex Liber]

You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game from reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC has to make will never be yours.

I meant, naturally, the context of the plot, no sharing the game.
And I wrote earlier that I do not want to influence what the developer does - I am a supporter of the "come what may come" position.

At the same time, I have every right and opportunity to express my opinion about what kind of content and essense I would like to see in the characters' forms. Also, as I do not offend the right of others to want to see in the character some traits that they want. Especially if I "can't self insert in the role".

And yes, I'm not an MC (and never be especially in this GAME, yeah)), and the choice a character makes will never be mine (MC not me in reality also). But I have a personal impression of the character, of the game, of the developer's choice, and this is exactly what is personally mine here on the forum. And I can do with it as I please, of course.

 

[Trikus]

I disagree totally. I don't think the sharing path turns her into a sex friend. I just don't like sharing LI's in any story with other men. That's why there are both paths. I never cared that there some scenes with other men that I could avoid. My complaint is that after four years the focus on that content has been greatly expanded. I played two updates at one time and got less content than I used to get in one.

You like metaphors, I like metaphors. Let's say that Taco Bell (I haven't eaten at a Taco Bell for years. At the time, I did not care for it hence my not visiting there again; but for all I know we could be on our way to all restaurants being Taco Bell [I like allusion as well.] I want to avoid a Pro/Con Taco Bell debate.) decides after all these years that they going offer hamburgers to their menu to try to attract more customers. Few people would complain. But let's say to do this they have to take off a lot of their "Mexican food" of the menu. You would not be surprised if many of their customers were unhappy. They go to Taco Bell for "Mexican food" not burgers. If they want burgers, they would go someplace else. I (and as you see others as well) don't play DMD to share Dee with other men. I little bit of optional sharing was fine. To significantly reduce the content which had been the focus of the game for so long is to what I object.

PS: Mexican food was in quotes because, well, we are talking about Taco Bell.

Nice metaphor but it doesn't apply to this game. Perhaps if Taco Bell had originally planned to sell hamburgers when the company started it would. Also "I (and as you see others as well) don't play DMD to share Dee with other men", yup, that is valid, however, you are not the developer of the game. MrDots wants to have that content in his game and has never hidden the optional mmf tag for this game. If you don't want male sharing, why did you play the game when you knew full well the developer would add it? I fully agree that the mmf content has taken its time to build up, but since it has been possible path since the game's inception you had to be aware it was coming at some point. Obviously they needed to wait for D to be more experienced. Mmf sharing in Chapter 1 and 2 would have made no sense as she was not ready for that, now, she is getting curious in Chapter 3.

Here is another metaphor. Playing a D only path is akin to reading Lord of the Rings and only focusing on Frodo and Sam. Sure, you get the main story but you are skipping most of what Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are doing. Effectively cutting book 2 and 3 in half, then complaining that the books are too short.

 

[ptahn]

Nice metaphor but it doesn't apply to this game. Perhaps if Taco Bell had originally planned to sell hamburgers when the company started it would. Also "I (and as you see others as well) don't play DMD to share Dee with other men", yup, that is valid, however, you are not the developer of the game. MrDots wants to have that content in his game and has never hidden the optional mmf tag for this game. If you don't want male sharing, why did you play the game when you knew full well the developer would add it? I fully agree that the mmf content has taken its time to build up, but since it has been possible path since the game's inception you had to be aware it was coming at some point. Obviously they needed to wait for D to be more experienced. Mmf sharing in Chapter 1 and 2 would have made no sense as she was not ready for that, now, she is getting curious in Chapter 3.

Here is another metaphor. Playing a D only path is akin to reading Lord of the Rings and only focusing on Frodo and Sam. Sure, you get the main story but you are skipping most of what Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli are doing. Effectively cutting book 2 and 3 in half, then complaining that the books are too short.

I never cared that there was sharing content. I never said anything about the Graham content as it did not significantly take away from the path I was playing. Yes, Mr. Dots can write anything that he wants. He could have F & D get a dog, add the bestiality content that some people want; and Dee could fall in love with the dog, leave MC and marry the dog. You know, I'd complain about that as well. The issue I have, and I have said this repeatedly, is the expansion of the sharing content to the point that it is having a significant impact on the amount of non-sharing content.

The issue is taste. I don't like the sharing Dee with other men path, I'm guessing you do. Neither of us are right, neither of us are wrong. I'm not going to play the path that I don't like just to get more content that I'm not going to enjoy. This is a discussion group and so I have every right to say that I am disappointed that the story has changed its focus. It's my money so I have every right to change my contribution to a story that is more in line with my tastes. I'm not trying to convince you that you should be unhappy with the change in focus, and I can assure you that you are not going to convince me that I should be happy. What we have here is a bunch of posters saying they are unhappy and why they are unhappy. We also have another bunch of posters trying to prove that their change in feelings for the game is invalid.

 

[Fuckjessicanigriintheass]

Can someone please tell me if there have been a lot of updates since D's mom got into the appartment on seaside? How much content would there be to play now?

 

[crugh2112]

Sharing has been hinted at since very early in Chapter 1. So for those that say it has only been added recently, you have not been paying attention. You had your choice to add Martin to the potential sexualization of D at that time. We are now to the point in the game that it can become a reality. Nothing has been added just to piss off people. It was there all along. You can easily avoid it. That is what Mr. Dots has done so well. These events can be avoided. Why complain?

 

[SeveredRealms]

Ok I have said this once or twice now. I know the route(s) I am interested in. No it may not be the route your interested in and it is your choice. I commend Mr.Dots on allowing us to make these choices and opening this game in a way where we can all explore our individual fetishes. you all need to stop complaining its really a old subject now and time to move on and enjoy the game as "You" see fit and let others enjoy it their way without complaining. Since this is adult forum due to content we should be acting as adult and keep a open mind without judgement of others and just enjoy the game in your own way. Thank you Mr. Dots for doing a great job and not forcing anyone into a fetish they do not like but yet leaving the door open to those that like the other fetishes.

 

[slackster]

I actually didn't know that. Do you mind showing where does it mention? Even mrdots's unofficial discord doesn't mention anything such if I remember correctly. Only bestiality is hinted.
Although it does mention that there is a "possibility" of sharing, cheating content in Sunshine love.

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Post #278 is where discussion starts on these topics back in Jan 2017 on this forum