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Besides the noisy anti-sharing minority I'd be really surprised if MrDots lost more then 10% of his subscribers if he goes a few chapters more and the game becomes 90% sharing stuff. Because let's be honest : there's not an infinity of sex scenes you can do with only a man & a woman. So if you don't like sharing, just stop following the game. If I were MrD, I'd make a special ending for anti sharing people, saying "They lived a happy life together blablah". And then go on 20 chapters more with the orgies and gangbangs. (And dogs, horses and giant hedgehogs). And if you like sharing and the game's still done with a similar or better level of quality, it can go on to chapter 32 for all I care. It could be the Simpsons of porn games.
 
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Few have had development this long though - most were long since abandonded or in the odd case actually got to completion and new projects were created in their stead. This dude actually made a whole complete alternate game in the midst of creating this one and is actively making another at the same time too lol (pretty sure hes expanded planned ending in the story twice now, thus were getting yet another chapter). I just hope he can give everyone a satisfying conclusion as no one is ultimately happy with the way things are going as focus is taken away from F/D dynamics to develop other paths like sharing in the development side of things and yet even then those paths are thread bare in content despite being so long a project and there is poor fans of characters like Jen who still have been cock teased more than any other still here waiting for the good stuff (the Dee fans thought they had to wait... holy shit!). Nobody blue balls like Mr Dots does haha. I wonder when this game will be done, 2022 maybe? last chapter isnt even starting till next year as confirmed by the man himself.
Actually the game just return to the original idea-around 35-36 updates,no expanding.
 
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Last week we had a new preview on sunday, hope it will be the same this week and maybe we'll know the final release date.
 

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Besides the noisy anti-sharing minority I'd be really surprised if MrDots lost more then 10% of his subscribers if he goes a few chapters more and the game becomes 90% sharing stuff. Because let's be honest : there's not an infinity of sex scenes you can do with only a man & a woman. So if you don't like sharing, just stop following the game. If I were MrD, I'd make a special ending for anti sharing people, saying "They lived a happy life together blablah". And then go on 20 chapters more with the orgies and gangbangs. (And dogs, horses and giant hedgehogs). And if you like sharing and the game's still done with a similar or better level of quality, it can go on to chapter 32 for all I care. It could be the Simpsons of porn game.
And after a quarter of a century they can remove key characters based on likable stereotypes of said character's ethnicity?
 

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DMD v.28 - Night Moves

Good afternoon/evening to all my followers.

For this week of preview pics, we have decided to share with you some renders of one of DMD’s much-loved characters from the very start of the game - Georgina!

These renders will feature in our upcoming release: DMD Version 28.

Now that the cat is out of the bag and your former secretary knows about you and your daughter’s relationship, you can use the time away from “Dee” to have some fun with the lovely Georgina.

But what exactly will you two get up to while your daughter dear is away at the modelling competition?

And how do you find yourself down at the beach, fooling around with the statuesque blonde, very late at night?

Find out when DMD v28 is released very soon!

We've been working really hard on this update, but we can't give you any release date yet :( We are confident that we can deliver it early next month. We'll keep you posted.

Have a great weekend everyone and a huge thanks to all of you for sticking with us through what has been a tough year for most people, ourselves included.

We couldn’t have got to this point without you.

Take care, I’ll be in touch again with you all next week.

MrDots
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DMD v.28 - Night Moves

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But what exactly will you two get up to while your daughter dear is away at the modelling competition?

And how do you find yourself down at the beach, fooling around with the statuesque blonde, very late at night?
While I remain a firm (bad word choice?) supporter of this game and MrDots' productions in general, if the above stays the norm and D doesn't get the chance to also have her own dalliances on the side, it will say to me that her growth path from a sexual maturity and independent thinking standpoint has hit a ceiling.

She still seeks career, home and family growth paths, but as far as her relationship with the MC and her own rocket-like trajectory with experiencing all she finds interesting, it would otherwise be more of the same, IMHO. Opening up their relationship to include close friends on a more regular basis, with controlled swinging, etc. remains somewhat interesting, but there would otherwise remain an immense double-standard in how the MC acts vs D and that has been sitting less well with me for a number of installments, now.

Essentially, the MC has all the power in this relationship at the end of the day - despite all the discussions of doing what they want, etc. - and artificially keeping him enabled to cheat while she must act only upon his agreement and in the same physical space just keeps her under his thumb. It's a far bigger thumbprint than offered by her mother, but still there is someone placing boundaries on her and it almost seems as if he's grooming her to remain in his orbit at all times.

Hopefully my concerns will prove to be premature and/or point-in-time applicable as Chapter 4 moves forward.
 
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Besides the noisy anti-sharing minority I'd be really surprised if MrDots lost more then 10% of his subscribers if he goes a few chapters more and the game becomes 90% sharing stuff. Because let's be honest : there's not an infinity of sex scenes you can do with only a man & a woman. So if you don't like sharing, just stop following the game. If I were MrD, I'd make a special ending for anti sharing people, saying "They lived a happy life together blablah". And then go on 20 chapters more with the orgies and gangbangs. (And dogs, horses and giant hedgehogs). And if you like sharing and the game's still done with a similar or better level of quality, it can go on to chapter 32 for all I care. It could be the Simpsons of porn game.
That and it's boring at this point. They need to finish up the D and Father part of the story and have it there or (what I'd propose) let D actually grow up and expand her character. They should do both, tbh. Let it end with those two alone and happy OR give the option for others to continue in a situation where D actually experiences her life without her father and/or with him around but her breaking free a bit.

This next update sounds like it's going to be more of D and Father, more of what we've seen for 3 years now. It's boring and I skip right past that because it's been done to death already.
 
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While I remain a firm (bad word choice?) supporter of this game and MrDots' productions in general, if the above stays the norm and D doesn't get the chance to also have her own dalliances on the side, it will say to me that her growth path from a sexual maturity and independent thinking standpoint has hit a ceiling.

She still seeks career, home and family growth paths, but as far as her relationship with the MC and her own rocket-like trajectory with experiencing all she finds interesting, it would otherwise be more of the same, IMHO. Opening up their relationship to include close friends on a more regular basis, with controlled swinging, etc. remains somewhat interesting, but there would otherwise remain an immense double-standard in how the MC acts vs D and that has been sitting less well with me for a number of installments, now.

Essentially, the MC has all the power in this relationship at the end of the day - despite all the discussions of doing what they want, etc. - and artificially keeping him enabled to cheat while she must act only upon his agreement and in the same physical space just keeps her under his thumb. It's a far bigger thumbprint than offered by her mother, but still there is someone placing boundaries on her and it almost seems as if he's grooming her to remain in his orbit at all times.

Hopefully my concerns will prove to be premature and/or point-in-time applicable as Chapter 4 moves forward.
This exactly and I said as much a page or two back. It has to let D experience her own life or end. She's basically just a 12yo fuckdoll for MC/Father. She has no self-reliance or thoughts of her own. She absolutely has no actions of her own. It's just bad storytelling, IMO. It's gotta change or the story has to end if we want to remember it fondly. A bad end-game can ruin the previous good work in a story and this is on the cusp of that happening if it continues with the status quo.
 

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While I remain a firm (bad word choice?) supporter of this game and MrDots' productions in general, if the above stays the norm and D doesn't get the chance to also have her own dalliances on the side, it will say to me that her growth path from a sexual maturity and independent thinking standpoint has hit a ceiling.

She still seeks career, home and family growth paths, but as far as her relationship with the MC and her own rocket-like trajectory with experiencing all she finds interesting, it would otherwise be more of the same, IMHO. Opening up their relationship to include close friends on a more regular basis, with controlled swinging, etc. remains somewhat interesting, but there would otherwise remain an immense double-standard in how the MC acts vs D and that has been sitting less well with me for a number of installments, now.

Essentially, the MC has all the power in this relationship at the end of the day - despite all the discussions of doing what they want, etc. - and artificially keeping him enabled to cheat while she must act only upon his agreement and in the same physical space just keeps her under his thumb. It's a far bigger thumbprint than offered by her mother, but still there is someone placing boundaries on her and it almost seems as if he's grooming her to remain in his orbit at all times.

Hopefully my concerns will prove to be premature and/or point-in-time applicable as Chapter 4 moves forward.
It's as you said, probably premature to worry about this but since we're here to speculate : relationships where the man cheats and the woman doesn't are very common. Wether the woman knows about it or not. So it wouldn't shock me if the story went on keeping this same dynamic.

But it would be boring. What I'd like to see is :
1st stage, consensual sharing,
2nd stage : something happens that makes D have sex with someone else unbeknownst to her father. Wether it's nice (love at first sight with some guy) or not (some guy threatens to reveal her secret right as her career really starts to take off, unless she accepts to have sex with him. And of course she mustn't tell anything to her dad or else he reveals all to the press).

I prefer the second option. Not only because I'm a perv, but also because it's more interesting drama. All the internal turmoils of D, all the "police procedural" type of scenes, like D planning how to get rid of this threat, who does she enrolls to help ? (probably one of the other girls, which could lead to sex scenes if for example Elena participates in a scheme to get information on the blackmailer and has to offer favors to some concierge or anything in this style but more original) and how they finally manage to get rid of him.

Which makes me think that when the writers will leave the ship, or when they simply don't have any more ideas, they could just make a "DmD - Alternate stories", even after the official game is over, and just select stories from the players, improve/correct stuff and integrate the ones they like into this. Just in case they don't have enough ideas to prolong DmD till the end of times. :D
 

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It's as you said, probably premature to worry about this but since we're here to speculate : relationships where the man cheats and the woman doesn't are very common. Wether the woman knows about it or not. So it wouldn't shock me if the story went on keeping this same dynamic.
In adult VNs, certainly. IRL might surprise people, though ...

But it would be boring. What I'd like to see is :
1st stage, consensual sharing,
2nd stage : something happens that makes D have sex with someone else unbeknownst to her father. Wether it's nice (love at first sight with some guy) or not (some guy threatens to reveal her secret right as her career really starts to take off, unless she accepts to have sex with him. And of course she mustn't tell anything to her dad or else he reveals all to the press).
My discussing option (2) is what led to my leaving their Discord, because it was considered pushing an NTR aspect that they didn't want to incorporate and I couldn't leave that point alone - so, it made no sense to continue on that point in their backyard. And I only mention this because it's relevant to why I feel this story will not gain a better balance in this area, so am wondering just what we are supposed to get from Chapter 4: career, house and family, mostly? If so, that's OK but it comes with baggage.

Although at least a minority of their creative team has agreed that there is already a form of NTR/cheating happening in DMD, how MrDots decides to define it has already been offered in public, discussed, etc. and that won't change (we have been told.)

Therefore, I am airing my grievances on it here for the sake of this game - not because it is a favored genre for me (actually, not at all), but because I find the power imbalance in the story to have become a seriously sore thumb by this stage. It stands out for all the reasons I offered in the prior post and is hampering my enjoyment of the story. Where once I revelled in her breakout from being under her mother's control, now I am increasingly frustrated with her being conditioned to feel that her new life and primary relationship has been truly freeing ... because it's just a bigger box in which to contain her, now.
 

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This exactly and I said as much a page or two back. It has to let D experience her own life or end. She's basically just a 12yo fuckdoll for MC/Father. She has no self-reliance or thoughts of her own. She absolutely has no actions of her own. It's just bad storytelling, IMO. It's gotta change or the story has to end if we want to remember it fondly. A bad end-game can ruin the previous good work in a story and this is on the cusp of that happening if it continues with the status quo.
Make your own game, or just drop it. Here, your opinion means nothing.
 
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Someone already made a spin-off game called Sugardaddies or something like that where you play primarily as D and you can make her as "adventurous" and "sexually developed" as you want. There's even a dog. Go enjoy that and please leave this game behind you if it doesn't make you happy.

For others, there are plenty of potential adventures for F, D and crew that don't involve D getting dicked down by half the town.
 
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That and it's boring at this point. They need to finish up the D and Father part of the story and have it there or (what I'd propose) let D actually grow up and expand her character. They should do both, tbh. Let it end with those two alone and happy OR give the option for others to continue in a situation where D actually experiences her life without her father and/or with him around but her breaking free a bit.

This next update sounds like it's going to be more of D and Father, more of what we've seen for 3 years now. It's boring and I skip right past that because it's been done to death already.
I would prefer turning D into a adventurous little slut, with F's approval of course, sometimes joining in watching, or in my little fantasy game, filming D antics as she becomes the biggest F95 ZONE star ever.
 
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Someone already made a spin-off game called Sugardaddies or something like that where you play primarily as D and you can make her as "adventurous" and "sexually developed" as you want. There's even a dog. Go enjoy that and please leave this game behind you if it doesn't make you happy.

For others, there are plenty of potential adventures for F, D and crew that don't involve D getting dicked down by half the town.
People can play what they want and comment on what they desire, so long as they're not trolling or otherwise breaking the General Rules. And nobody is trolling on this topic at the moment as far as I can see. Except maybe you by telling people to STFU :)

You also seem to have glossed over the fact that the current subject was brought up about D not being equal to the MC in terms of choices she can make in the game - it just so happens that impacts her sexual partner choices, but it actually relates to her being under his general umbrella of influence/control while HE continues to bang anyone he wants and then manipulate D to accept partners of his choosing when he's ready for such.

Even if she's willing to go along with his well-timed proposals (of course she is), there's a significant amount of manipulation going on here and it doesn't balance out for what is being offered as a happy couple on the surface. There's a larger point here beyond concern that she sleeps with other people of her choice.
 
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