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Again, you may disagree with us reading NTR narrowly “someone stolen away,” but it is the definition we are working with and guides how we structure the story.
I think most or many of us who truly dislike NTR agree on that definition. Rachel was off sleeping with D's boyfriend that was NTR of D. But not at all NTR of F. He is done and over with Rachel. But by the time we see that happening D is done and over with Frank (is it?) so maybe it fails as NTR of even her.

Also I do not want other dicks in my playtime, no thank you at all, but swapping and sharing are not NTR. If, however, you have sharing and D likes Martin's dick so much she dreams of it and does something with Martin without the father involved at all, now you have NTR. Some have advocated for scenarios like that and I hope the dev team sends all those wishes PACKING!
 

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It is with a great sigh of relief that MrDots has acquiesced to review the plight of my poor daughters delicate condition, who having begun growing in her budding sexuality to understand the true depths of debauchery and hedonistic truth. Attempting to reach for the sweetest fruit on the highest branch only to be told No zoup for you... She yet may see the day when the puritanical shackles are torn asunder. Allowed to writhe under the weight of multiple partners. Being bathed in a sea of sweat and bodily fluids Having allowed that human train to leave the station experiencing the truest sense of self discovery. Thank you again MrDot's for my daughters well being.
 

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DMD v.29 – New preview pic + revised plans for Chapter 4

Hello everyone…
Our preview pic this week is of your dear daughter in bed with your good friend Martin.
Is it just another dream or sexual fantasy that one of these two is having about the other, or could it be the “real deal” this time?
Find out when DMD “Version 29”, the final update for Chapter 3 is released on Tuesday, December 22nd!
Let us know your thoughts or predictions in the comments section below.
About our plans for CH4
After reading the numerous comments from you all after our preview post last week, we have come to realize that we may have been a little hasty with revealing our plans for Chapter 4.
In hindsight, we should have waited until this final version of Chapter 3 was released, and then waited to see how the scenes that we have created were received. By doing this, it would have been easier for us to know what to post, based on your feedback.
But we didn’t do that and that was a mistake on our part. However, that doesn’t mean that our error in judgment can’t be corrected.
What’s clear for us to see, before we’ve even released this final update, is that our fan’s opinions of last week’s post was very divided.
We have a lot of our supporters who would love to see the MMF path continue into the final chapter, and they have given us some very good reasons as to why it should.
Taking a few weeks off at the end of the month and most of January will give us ample time to have a good think about how we’ll plan out each release of Chapter 4.
We want to include all the things that we’ve always wanted to put into the game (and hasn’t featured yet) and the characters and fetishes that are important to our supporters as well.
A big problem we’ve found with DMD (certainly with Chapter 3) is juggling too many characters at once.
It’s probably why we initially felt that cutting the MMF paths from Ch4 would make things much easier for us, even though these paths were initially planned to feature in the last part of the game.
There are also a few minor characters in the game that we’re looking to “kill-off”, as they’re not overly important to the endings that we have in mind.
Given the reaction to last Sunday’s post, we will be reassessing our options and how we map out each update for Ch4.
We will be keeping the MMF fetish in the game, and we will be looking at the best way we can build on what will happen in this upcoming release.
Making male characters likeable in any game is a challenge in itself, but we feel like we’ve done pretty well with the Martin, Graham, and Ryan characters.
As per usual, this path is AVOIDABLE for those of you who are not interested in viewing these kinds of scenes.
However, the D/F relationship (and relationships with the girls) will still be the main focus of the last chapter of the game (the way it should be).
All we ask is that after you’ve played this next update, please give us your feedback, and also trust that we have the best intentions for the rest of the game.
We’re hoping that having a few months between this last DMD update and the start of Chapter 4 next year will be a huge benefit to us before we begin creating this final chapter of the game.
All of you who have supported us over the past four years have believed enough in this project (our very first game) to inspire us to keep it going, even when the simplest thing we could’ve done was to abandon it.
Without DMD existing and having all of you good people support us for such a long time, then none of what we’ve been able to accomplish would have happened.
That’s all for now everyone. We’ll have a new preview pic next weekend!
Have a great day, and thank you very much for your support!
MrDots
Just hope that in order to please both sides (sharing and pure D/Harem crowd), writers didn't envision sharing scenes as a series of endless fantasy/dream sequences. That would surely backfire quickly.
 
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DMD v.29 – New preview pic + revised plans for Chapter 4

Hello everyone…
Our preview pic this week is of your dear daughter in bed with your good friend Martin.
Is it just another dream or sexual fantasy that one of these two is having about the other, or could it be the “real deal” this time?
Find out when DMD “Version 29”, the final update for Chapter 3 is released on Tuesday, December 22nd!
Let us know your thoughts or predictions in the comments section below.
About our plans for CH4
After reading the numerous comments from you all after our preview post last week, we have come to realize that we may have been a little hasty with revealing our plans for Chapter 4.
In hindsight, we should have waited until this final version of Chapter 3 was released, and then waited to see how the scenes that we have created were received. By doing this, it would have been easier for us to know what to post, based on your feedback.
But we didn’t do that and that was a mistake on our part. However, that doesn’t mean that our error in judgment can’t be corrected.
What’s clear for us to see, before we’ve even released this final update, is that our fan’s opinions of last week’s post was very divided.
We have a lot of our supporters who would love to see the MMF path continue into the final chapter, and they have given us some very good reasons as to why it should.
Taking a few weeks off at the end of the month and most of January will give us ample time to have a good think about how we’ll plan out each release of Chapter 4.
We want to include all the things that we’ve always wanted to put into the game (and hasn’t featured yet) and the characters and fetishes that are important to our supporters as well.
A big problem we’ve found with DMD (certainly with Chapter 3) is juggling too many characters at once.
It’s probably why we initially felt that cutting the MMF paths from Ch4 would make things much easier for us, even though these paths were initially planned to feature in the last part of the game.
There are also a few minor characters in the game that we’re looking to “kill-off”, as they’re not overly important to the endings that we have in mind.
Given the reaction to last Sunday’s post, we will be reassessing our options and how we map out each update for Ch4.
We will be keeping the MMF fetish in the game, and we will be looking at the best way we can build on what will happen in this upcoming release.
Making male characters likeable in any game is a challenge in itself, but we feel like we’ve done pretty well with the Martin, Graham, and Ryan characters.
As per usual, this path is AVOIDABLE for those of you who are not interested in viewing these kinds of scenes.
However, the D/F relationship (and relationships with the girls) will still be the main focus of the last chapter of the game (the way it should be).
All we ask is that after you’ve played this next update, please give us your feedback, and also trust that we have the best intentions for the rest of the game.
We’re hoping that having a few months between this last DMD update and the start of Chapter 4 next year will be a huge benefit to us before we begin creating this final chapter of the game.
All of you who have supported us over the past four years have believed enough in this project (our very first game) to inspire us to keep it going, even when the simplest thing we could’ve done was to abandon it.
Without DMD existing and having all of you good people support us for such a long time, then none of what we’ve been able to accomplish would have happened.
That’s all for now everyone. We’ll have a new preview pic next weekend!
Have a great day, and thank you very much for your support!
MrDots
Hell YEAH!
 

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As to how f95zone defines NTR, I don’t know how they define it. If DMD falls within that definition, then it does.

We’ve made that bright line definition of “stolen away” for a reason, so we Can tell our fans what to expect. It seems to have done some good.

As for what is coming up with D, she is going to have some NRE, or New Relationship Excitement. That is in essence the same firing of dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins that come from ... falling in love. Happens all the time in open marriages and polyamory.

Those chemicals getting fired off is one of those things you can’t normally control - except for staying away from others if you are in a relationship. So, imo, as long as Dee does not replace F as the Alpha Primary, then we don’t get to NTR; this is me acknowledging that you might not steal someone away, but you can move your Alpha to a Beta emotionally, which is very NTR-like IMO.

The best book by far I read on this issue is: “Men Chase, Women Choose: The Neuroscience of Meeting, Dating, Losing ypYiur Mind, and Finding True Love,” by Dawn Masler, a science writer and biology professor.
 
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DMD v.29 – New preview pic + revised plans for Chapter 4

Hello everyone…
Our preview pic this week is of your dear daughter in bed with your good friend Martin.
Is it just another dream or sexual fantasy that one of these two is having about the other, or could it be the “real deal” this time?
Find out when DMD “Version 29”, the final update for Chapter 3 is released on Tuesday, December 22nd!
Let us know your thoughts or predictions in the comments section below.
About our plans for CH4
After reading the numerous comments from you all after our preview post last week, we have come to realize that we may have been a little hasty with revealing our plans for Chapter 4.
In hindsight, we should have waited until this final version of Chapter 3 was released, and then waited to see how the scenes that we have created were received. By doing this, it would have been easier for us to know what to post, based on your feedback.
But we didn’t do that and that was a mistake on our part. However, that doesn’t mean that our error in judgment can’t be corrected.
What’s clear for us to see, before we’ve even released this final update, is that our fan’s opinions of last week’s post was very divided.
We have a lot of our supporters who would love to see the MMF path continue into the final chapter, and they have given us some very good reasons as to why it should.
Taking a few weeks off at the end of the month and most of January will give us ample time to have a good think about how we’ll plan out each release of Chapter 4.
We want to include all the things that we’ve always wanted to put into the game (and hasn’t featured yet) and the characters and fetishes that are important to our supporters as well.
A big problem we’ve found with DMD (certainly with Chapter 3) is juggling too many characters at once.
It’s probably why we initially felt that cutting the MMF paths from Ch4 would make things much easier for us, even though these paths were initially planned to feature in the last part of the game.
There are also a few minor characters in the game that we’re looking to “kill-off”, as they’re not overly important to the endings that we have in mind.
Given the reaction to last Sunday’s post, we will be reassessing our options and how we map out each update for Ch4.
We will be keeping the MMF fetish in the game, and we will be looking at the best way we can build on what will happen in this upcoming release.
Making male characters likeable in any game is a challenge in itself, but we feel like we’ve done pretty well with the Martin, Graham, and Ryan characters.
As per usual, this path is AVOIDABLE for those of you who are not interested in viewing these kinds of scenes.
However, the D/F relationship (and relationships with the girls) will still be the main focus of the last chapter of the game (the way it should be).
All we ask is that after you’ve played this next update, please give us your feedback, and also trust that we have the best intentions for the rest of the game.
We’re hoping that having a few months between this last DMD update and the start of Chapter 4 next year will be a huge benefit to us before we begin creating this final chapter of the game.
All of you who have supported us over the past four years have believed enough in this project (our very first game) to inspire us to keep it going, even when the simplest thing we could’ve done was to abandon it.
Without DMD existing and having all of you good people support us for such a long time, then none of what we’ve been able to accomplish would have happened.
That’s all for now everyone. We’ll have a new preview pic next weekend!
Have a great day, and thank you very much for your support!
MrDots

Thank you MrDots and team :)
 
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As to how f95zone defines NTR, I don’t know how they define it. If DMD falls within that definition, then it does.

We’ve made that bright line definition of “stolen away” for a reason, so we Can tell our fans what to expect. It seems to have done some good.

As for what is coming up with D, she is going to have some NRE, or New Relationship Excitement. That is in essence the same firing of dopamine, oxytocin, serotonin, and endorphins that come from ... falling in love. Happens all the time in open marriages and polyamory.

Those chemicals getting fired off is one of those things you can’t normally control - except for staying away from others if you are in a relationship. So, imo, as long as Dee does not replace F as the Alpha Primary, then we don’t get to NTR; this is me acknowledging that you might not steal someone away, but you can move your Alpha to a Beta emotionally, which is very NTR-like IMO.

The best book by far I read on this issue is: “Men Chase, Women Choose: The Neuroscience of Meeting, Dating, Losing ypYiur Mind, and Finding True Love,” by Dawn Masler, a science writer and biology professor.
My previous comments were deleted cause off-topic, so I won't delve back into the subject.

However thought I should at least acknowledge your response. And understand where you are coming from. I think most people view "it" as anyone other than MC doing stuff (without his permission that is, with permission is just sharing, although personally is one in the same to me :p Sole-male is the only way in my book XD).

Honestly if it is all avoidable (the non-MC dreams included) I don't think there will be any real issue. Obviously people will still complain, cause well for any number of reasons (misinterpreting a post or something).

Side note: Is there a route where you can have all the girls but only MC? cause if so you will probably want to add the harem tag.
 
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DMD v.29 – New preview pic + revised plans for Chapter 4

Hello everyone…
Our preview pic this week is of your dear daughter in bed with your good friend Martin.
Is it just another dream or sexual fantasy that one of these two is having about the other, or could it be the “real deal” this time?
Find out when DMD “Version 29”, the final update for Chapter 3 is released on Tuesday, December 22nd!
Let us know your thoughts or predictions in the comments section below.
About our plans for CH4
After reading the numerous comments from you all after our preview post last week, we have come to realize that we may have been a little hasty with revealing our plans for Chapter 4.
In hindsight, we should have waited until this final version of Chapter 3 was released, and then waited to see how the scenes that we have created were received. By doing this, it would have been easier for us to know what to post, based on your feedback.
But we didn’t do that and that was a mistake on our part. However, that doesn’t mean that our error in judgment can’t be corrected.
What’s clear for us to see, before we’ve even released this final update, is that our fan’s opinions of last week’s post was very divided.
We have a lot of our supporters who would love to see the MMF path continue into the final chapter, and they have given us some very good reasons as to why it should.
Taking a few weeks off at the end of the month and most of January will give us ample time to have a good think about how we’ll plan out each release of Chapter 4.
We want to include all the things that we’ve always wanted to put into the game (and hasn’t featured yet) and the characters and fetishes that are important to our supporters as well.
A big problem we’ve found with DMD (certainly with Chapter 3) is juggling too many characters at once.
It’s probably why we initially felt that cutting the MMF paths from Ch4 would make things much easier for us, even though these paths were initially planned to feature in the last part of the game.
There are also a few minor characters in the game that we’re looking to “kill-off”, as they’re not overly important to the endings that we have in mind.
Given the reaction to last Sunday’s post, we will be reassessing our options and how we map out each update for Ch4.
We will be keeping the MMF fetish in the game, and we will be looking at the best way we can build on what will happen in this upcoming release.
Making male characters likeable in any game is a challenge in itself, but we feel like we’ve done pretty well with the Martin, Graham, and Ryan characters.
As per usual, this path is AVOIDABLE for those of you who are not interested in viewing these kinds of scenes.
However, the D/F relationship (and relationships with the girls) will still be the main focus of the last chapter of the game (the way it should be).
All we ask is that after you’ve played this next update, please give us your feedback, and also trust that we have the best intentions for the rest of the game.
We’re hoping that having a few months between this last DMD update and the start of Chapter 4 next year will be a huge benefit to us before we begin creating this final chapter of the game.
All of you who have supported us over the past four years have believed enough in this project (our very first game) to inspire us to keep it going, even when the simplest thing we could’ve done was to abandon it.
Without DMD existing and having all of you good people support us for such a long time, then none of what we’ve been able to accomplish would have happened.
That’s all for now everyone. We’ll have a new preview pic next weekend!
Have a great day, and thank you very much for your support!
MrDots
Well, let's just hope it's not another trick like saying from day 1 there would be ntr... I don't want a ntr game, just full on ntr sucks.... But the possibility for a deviant daughter... Now that's the appeal
 

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DMD v.29 – New preview pic + revised plans for Chapter 4

Hello everyone…
Our preview pic this week is of your dear daughter in bed with your good friend Martin.
Is it just another dream or sexual fantasy that one of these two is having about the other, or could it be the “real deal” this time?
Find out when DMD “Version 29”, the final update for Chapter 3 is released on Tuesday, December 22nd!
Let us know your thoughts or predictions in the comments section below.
About our plans for CH4
After reading the numerous comments from you all after our preview post last week, we have come to realize that we may have been a little hasty with revealing our plans for Chapter 4.
In hindsight, we should have waited until this final version of Chapter 3 was released, and then waited to see how the scenes that we have created were received. By doing this, it would have been easier for us to know what to post, based on your feedback.
But we didn’t do that and that was a mistake on our part. However, that doesn’t mean that our error in judgment can’t be corrected.
What’s clear for us to see, before we’ve even released this final update, is that our fan’s opinions of last week’s post was very divided.
We have a lot of our supporters who would love to see the MMF path continue into the final chapter, and they have given us some very good reasons as to why it should.
Taking a few weeks off at the end of the month and most of January will give us ample time to have a good think about how we’ll plan out each release of Chapter 4.
We want to include all the things that we’ve always wanted to put into the game (and hasn’t featured yet) and the characters and fetishes that are important to our supporters as well.
A big problem we’ve found with DMD (certainly with Chapter 3) is juggling too many characters at once.
It’s probably why we initially felt that cutting the MMF paths from Ch4 would make things much easier for us, even though these paths were initially planned to feature in the last part of the game.
There are also a few minor characters in the game that we’re looking to “kill-off”, as they’re not overly important to the endings that we have in mind.
Given the reaction to last Sunday’s post, we will be reassessing our options and how we map out each update for Ch4.
We will be keeping the MMF fetish in the game, and we will be looking at the best way we can build on what will happen in this upcoming release.
Making male characters likeable in any game is a challenge in itself, but we feel like we’ve done pretty well with the Martin, Graham, and Ryan characters.
As per usual, this path is AVOIDABLE for those of you who are not interested in viewing these kinds of scenes.
However, the D/F relationship (and relationships with the girls) will still be the main focus of the last chapter of the game (the way it should be).
All we ask is that after you’ve played this next update, please give us your feedback, and also trust that we have the best intentions for the rest of the game.
We’re hoping that having a few months between this last DMD update and the start of Chapter 4 next year will be a huge benefit to us before we begin creating this final chapter of the game.
All of you who have supported us over the past four years have believed enough in this project (our very first game) to inspire us to keep it going, even when the simplest thing we could’ve done was to abandon it.
Without DMD existing and having all of you good people support us for such a long time, then none of what we’ve been able to accomplish would have happened.
That’s all for now everyone. We’ll have a new preview pic next weekend!
Have a great day, and thank you very much for your support!
MrDots
This is good news !!
 
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DMD v.29 – New preview pic + revised plans for Chapter 4

Hello everyone…
Our preview pic this week is of your dear daughter in bed with your good friend Martin.
Is it just another dream or sexual fantasy that one of these two is having about the other, or could it be the “real deal” this time?
Find out when DMD “Version 29”, the final update for Chapter 3 is released on Tuesday, December 22nd!
Let us know your thoughts or predictions in the comments section below.
About our plans for CH4
After reading the numerous comments from you all after our preview post last week, we have come to realize that we may have been a little hasty with revealing our plans for Chapter 4.
In hindsight, we should have waited until this final version of Chapter 3 was released, and then waited to see how the scenes that we have created were received. By doing this, it would have been easier for us to know what to post, based on your feedback.
But we didn’t do that and that was a mistake on our part. However, that doesn’t mean that our error in judgment can’t be corrected.
What’s clear for us to see, before we’ve even released this final update, is that our fan’s opinions of last week’s post was very divided.
We have a lot of our supporters who would love to see the MMF path continue into the final chapter, and they have given us some very good reasons as to why it should.
Taking a few weeks off at the end of the month and most of January will give us ample time to have a good think about how we’ll plan out each release of Chapter 4.
We want to include all the things that we’ve always wanted to put into the game (and hasn’t featured yet) and the characters and fetishes that are important to our supporters as well.
A big problem we’ve found with DMD (certainly with Chapter 3) is juggling too many characters at once.
It’s probably why we initially felt that cutting the MMF paths from Ch4 would make things much easier for us, even though these paths were initially planned to feature in the last part of the game.
There are also a few minor characters in the game that we’re looking to “kill-off”, as they’re not overly important to the endings that we have in mind.
Given the reaction to last Sunday’s post, we will be reassessing our options and how we map out each update for Ch4.
We will be keeping the MMF fetish in the game, and we will be looking at the best way we can build on what will happen in this upcoming release.
Making male characters likeable in any game is a challenge in itself, but we feel like we’ve done pretty well with the Martin, Graham, and Ryan characters.
As per usual, this path is AVOIDABLE for those of you who are not interested in viewing these kinds of scenes.
However, the D/F relationship (and relationships with the girls) will still be the main focus of the last chapter of the game (the way it should be).
All we ask is that after you’ve played this next update, please give us your feedback, and also trust that we have the best intentions for the rest of the game.
We’re hoping that having a few months between this last DMD update and the start of Chapter 4 next year will be a huge benefit to us before we begin creating this final chapter of the game.
All of you who have supported us over the past four years have believed enough in this project (our very first game) to inspire us to keep it going, even when the simplest thing we could’ve done was to abandon it.
Without DMD existing and having all of you good people support us for such a long time, then none of what we’ve been able to accomplish would have happened.
That’s all for now everyone. We’ll have a new preview pic next weekend!
Have a great day, and thank you very much for your support!
MrDots
That's what talking about , Thank you Mr.Dots
 

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Maybe D and F end up eating at a restaurant owned by Victoria's (from SL) father.
Nothing earthshaking to the plot just another minor crossover.
 
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What I really don´t understand is why so much of you guys are against NTR, sharing content. Why are you generally against another guys dick to approach? DMD was tagged with cheating, sharing all the time from the beginning. It always was planed as avoidable side content. Nobody would have seen this, if he don´t likes to. There would have been no harm. Nevertheless some guys did everything, to prevent this kind of content, until now. What came of it? At the end, DMD it a largely empty game, especially part 1 and 2. The little erotic in the whole game, repeats itself constantly. Most is vanilla. There is hardly any variety. Doesn't that bother you? Even the biggest fan has to notice that.

Would these people are a bit more open-minded, DMD would be easy to spice up. I am happy to share some ideas with you:

Elena/Adam.
Requirement: reject Elena all the time
shows up: allways possible
Adam, Elenas father´s friend, has crush on her. Everybody knows. If you rejected her, Adam will approach her. He already did. If you choose so, Elena is not in a relationship, so she can have whoever she wants. So, let them have Sex. Maybe in the car, maybe at Elenas home, when her father is not there.


D/Martin
Requirement: choosen Matin Route
shows up: DMD, part 3

D comes home from another photoshoot with Ryan, F is not home. D spots Martin taking a shower. Seeing him naked excites her. The player decides whether she joins him or not. If we do, she undress and joins him. Taken by suprise, they start to make out and fondle. Finally they leave the shower. They either go to the guest bedroom or the main bedroom (there already is too much shower sex in the game), having sex. What they will do, missionary, doggy, riding, the player decides. Both orgasm, he cums inside her. Then they both cuddle, enjoy how great it was. But D suggests it was a one time thing. Martin accepts and finally drives home.

Even more Martin?
Requirement: D had sex with Martin
shows up: DMD, part 4

D and F go to sleep. F falls asleep immediately. D lies awake for a long time, she remembers the night with Martin. Excited, she falls asleep.
Change of scenes. Martin finally arrived home. He lies in his bed awake, too. , He remembers the night with D. Excited, he falls asleep. In his dream, there is D in the bedroom door, suddenly. She wears nothing, but a smile and hot lingerie. D joins Matin, gives head. Next they are having sex, she rides him. They orgams.
One morge change of scenes. D wakes up. She and Martin had the same dream

Thats it. Martin route is finished. No more scenes needed.


Ryan
Requirement: choosen Ryan route
shows up: DMD, part 3 oder 4

D has another photoshoot with Ryan. Now she trusts him. Therefore F and Cassandra are not there. After the photoshoot Ryan is horny as fuck. He makes a move on D. The player decides whether D responds him or not. If she does, they kiss and have sex in the studios bed.

Rest ist he same as the Martin Sex scene.

That´s it. Ryan route finished. No more scenes needed.

Swinging
Requirement: being on threesome route Olivia/Graham oder Ryan/Margo
shows up: DMD, Part 3 oder 4

There is the swingersex scene that has already taken place. But this time there is partner switch. After the first orgasm both men are still horny, but one of the women needs some rest. So both men are now banging the remaining woman. That is either D, Olivia or Margo. The resting woman watches them, masturbates. She joins them, later.

That´s it. Swining route finished, MMF finished. No more scenes needed


D/Hugh
Requirement: none, possible on all routes
shows up: DMD, part 3

Hugh meets D on the models convention. He suggests her to come into his hotel room, later. Everybody knows the reason. If she does so, he promises to stand up for her on the convention. D is shocked, but thinks about it. She talks to the other models about it. They advise her to do it, especially Tyra. Apparently D goes into it, meets Hugh at his room. She really isn´t interested, wants to make him a mess. He pretends to understand, he offers her a drink. The player decides whether she accepts it or not. If so, D feels arroused and horny as fuck, soon. There was an strong aphrodisiac in her drink. But she never finds out. Now Hugh takes his chance, makes a move on her. Tipsy and arroused by the drink, she lets herself be seduced. She doesn't care about protection, neither does he. They have sex several times in a row. Meanwhile, Tyra, who was hidden in the room, is taking photos. If the player follow this route, this fotos will be the evidence to blackmail D. So D looses the model convention, this way. Hugh also lied to her, he didn't stand up for her. He just wanted to fuck her.

In the end of this route the same drama takes place that is already in the game.


Alternative ending
Requirements: D had unprotected Sex, she did not take the pill in DMD part 3
Shown up: end of DMD part 4

D feels unconfortale. She is doing a pregnancy test. The played decides, if it´s positive or negative. If it´s positiv, there will be a pragnancy ending. On the last render, maybe in a hospital, D is holding a child. If D had sex with Martin, the player decides, whether the child is black or white. If the player was not on the Martin route, there will be always a white child. If the pregnancy test was negative, there will be another ending. If the child is white, who may be the daddy? F? Ryan? Graham? Hugh? Only the player will ever know. The rest oft he game can go vanilla, as planed


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That´s it. You see, if you´re open-mind, it´s not so difficult to spice up the game. And there is not very much work left to be done. The character already exists, as do the places and stories. All you need to do, make the sex scenes. Of course it will take time, maybe monts. But lets be honest, DMD part 4 will take years of development. Will some more months make a difference?

These scenes are just examples. There is much more possible. If there is the will. This kind of scenes would be avoidable, depending on the chosen routes. If you don´t like it, you dont have to see it. But such scenes are missing in the entire game. But shall we ever see anything of this kind? I doubt it.
 
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And yet people did whine, and changes were made. It's just absurd that you think it looks like anything else.
Couldn't you say the exact same thing about the decision to truncate if not outright abandon MMF and sharing pathways in the first place?

There are people on both sides who are making overly emotional, tribalistic arguments just as there are people on both sides making rational arguments. Who can know with metaphysical certitude which arguments are making the most (if any) impact on the development team? Neither of us, I'd wager.

I understand the allocation of resources argument made by people who want to see MMF and sharing pathways dropped by the wayside, but at the same time the story has been developing for years and promises have been made through that storytelling that really ought to, from the perspective of coherent writing, be brought to a satisfactory conclusion. That to me seems the most fair outcome for people who have spent years making financial and emotional investments in the game.

Arriving where we apparently are now is the closest thing to the original intent of the story writing team and as such is the closest thing we have to nothing being changed at all. If what you truly want to see is a development team insulating themselves from the vicissitudes of the rabble, then I think you've landed exactly where you would want to land.
 
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theres a discussion in discord about this right now.
asking what people think about it. most are against and feel its wrong to give "time" to make mmf routes.
hopefully it will not push the team yet again to abandon it.
There is no real need to give time to create this kind of routes. They already exist. There is Martin, there is Ryan, there is Graham/Olivia, there is Hugh. All characters already exists, so do the locations and stories. There are 1.000st of renders, there are 10.000 of textlines, usually created to build up this stories. Until now, theyre pointless. But most work is done, already. All that´s left to do is: create some sex scenes! A few of them, preferably one for each route would be enough. Remeber, it is avoidable side content
 

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I think most or many of us who truly dislike NTR agree on that definition. Rachel was off sleeping with D's boyfriend that was NTR of D. But not at all NTR of F. He is done and over with Rachel. But by the time we see that happening D is done and over with Frank (is it?) so maybe it fails as NTR of even her.

Also I do not want other dicks in my playtime, no thank you at all, but swapping and sharing are not NTR. If, however, you have sharing and D likes Martin's dick so much she dreams of it and does something with Martin without the father involved at all, now you have NTR. Some have advocated for scenarios like that and I hope the dev team sends all those wishes PACKING!
There is one more cheating in the game, nearly all of you overlooked. Me too. It´s D! If I´am wrong, you´re welcome to correct me. When the game started, D was engaged to frank. Both of them never spoke any single word, the whole game, until now. If I´am right, they even never officially broke up. So, technically, they´re still a couple. Doesn´t that means, D is cheating on Frank with us, all the time?

And you overlooked one more thing. After D cheaten on F with Elena (if you chose this route) , F and D diskussed this topic. F suggests to open the relationship to other people, male and female. D accept it. This time, they created a open relationship. So from this point now, having sex with other people, is sharing, no more cheating.
 
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I dont like the idea of a 1-scene only for each character.
I rather have Martin or Ryan or Graham or another dude to be selected and have a route for him and D&F.
to have sex immediately it seems odd, D should be a bit resistant about that and need to take it slow.
my envision is that D and Martin will do something, but will not take it all the way, maybe just kissing/hugging/touching.
after that D should reveal this to F and from there F is in the game for MMF scenes, that also should be slow.
after years waiting I dont want it rushed.
 
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