Couldn't you say the exact same thing about the decision to truncate if not outright abandon MMF and sharing pathways in the first place?And yet people did whine, and changes were made. It's just absurd that you think it looks like anything else.
There is no real need to give time to create this kind of routes. They already exist. There is Martin, there is Ryan, there is Graham/Olivia, there is Hugh. All characters already exists, so do the locations and stories. There are 1.000st of renders, there are 10.000 of textlines, usually created to build up this stories. Until now, theyre pointless. But most work is done, already. All that´s left to do is: create some sex scenes! A few of them, preferably one for each route would be enough. Remeber, it is avoidable side contenttheres a discussion in discord about this right now.
asking what people think about it. most are against and feel its wrong to give "time" to make mmf routes.
hopefully it will not push the team yet again to abandon it.
There is one more cheating in the game, nearly all of you overlooked. Me too. It´s D! If I´am wrong, you´re welcome to correct me. When the game started, D was engaged to frank. Both of them never spoke any single word, the whole game, until now. If I´am right, they even never officially broke up. So, technically, they´re still a couple. Doesn´t that means, D is cheating on Frank with us, all the time?I think most or many of us who truly dislike NTR agree on that definition. Rachel was off sleeping with D's boyfriend that was NTR of D. But not at all NTR of F. He is done and over with Rachel. But by the time we see that happening D is done and over with Frank (is it?) so maybe it fails as NTR of even her.
Also I do not want other dicks in my playtime, no thank you at all, but swapping and sharing are not NTR. If, however, you have sharing and D likes Martin's dick so much she dreams of it and does something with Martin without the father involved at all, now you have NTR. Some have advocated for scenarios like that and I hope the dev team sends all those wishes PACKING!
Truth has been spoken, hopefully devs will read this postI dont like the idea of a 1-scene only for each character.
I rather have Martin or Ryan or Graham or another dude to be selected and have a route for him and D&F.
to have sex immediately it seems odd, D should be a bit resistant about that and need to take it slow.
my envision is that D and Martin will do something, but will not take it all the way, maybe just kissing/hugging/touching.
after that D should reveal this to F and from there F is in the game for MMF scenes, that also should be slow.
after years waiting I dont want it rushed.
Where are you getting the impression that this content is being killed off? It's a major story element.Look, I'm not gonna say that MMF should be cut. If the devs want it, do it. Fine by me. I just don't find it interesting.
But what's with the FFM content that has been slowly built up for such a long time now? It seems like it never quite comes to fruition, and now it may be "killed off"? Jennifer, Elena and D, as well as some other female side characters, have an entire pool of interesting potential dynamics to draw from. I think there's so much being wasted there.
You know what! i like thatWhat I really don´t understand is why so much of you guys are against NTR, sharing content. Why are you generally against another guys dick to approach? DMD was tagged with cheating, sharing all the time from the beginning. It always was planed as avoidable side content. Nobody would have seen this, if he don´t likes to. There would have been no harm. Nevertheless some guys did everything, to prevent this kind of content, until now. What came of it? At the end, DMD it a largely empty game, especially part 1 and 2. The little erotic in the whole game, repeats itself constantly. Most is vanilla. There is hardly any variety. Doesn't that bother you? Even the biggest fan has to notice that.
Would these people are a bit more open-minded, DMD would be easy to spice up. I am happy to share some ideas with you:
Elena/Adam.
Requirement: reject Elena all the time
shows up: allways possible
Adam, Elenas father´s friend, has crush on her. Everybody knows. If you rejected her, Adam will approach her. He already did. If you choose so, Elena is not in a relationship, so she can have whoever she wants. So, let them have Sex. Maybe in the car, maybe at Elenas home, when her father is not there.
D/Martin
Requirement: choosen Matin Route
shows up: DMD, part 3
D comes home from another photoshoot with Ryan, F is not home. D spots Martin taking a shower. Seeing him naked excites her. The player decides whether she joins him or not. If we do, she undress and joins him. Taken by suprise, they start to make out and fondle. Finally they leave the shower. They either go to the guest bedroom or the main bedroom (there already is too much shower sex in the game), having sex. What they will do, missionary, doggy, riding, the player decides. Both orgasm, he cums inside her. Then they both cuddle, enjoy how great it was. But D suggests it was a one time thing. Martin accepts and finally drives home.
Even more Martin?
Requirement: D had sex with Martin
shows up: DMD, part 4
D and F go to sleep. F falls asleep immediately. D lies awake for a long time, she remembers the night with Martin. Excited, she falls asleep.
Change of scenes. Martin finally arrived home. He lies in his bed awake, too. , He remembers the night with D. Excited, he falls asleep. In his dream, there is D in the bedroom door, suddenly. She wears nothing, but a smile and hot lingerie. D joins Matin, gives head. Next they are having sex, she rides him. They orgams.
One morge change of scenes. D wakes up. She and Martin had the same dream
Thats it. Martin route is finished. No more scenes needed.
Ryan
Requirement: choosen Ryan route
shows up: DMD, part 3 oder 4
D has another photoshoot with Ryan. Now she trusts him. Therefore F and Cassandra are not there. After the photoshoot Ryan is horny as fuck. He makes a move on D. The player decides whether D responds him or not. If she does, they kiss and have sex in the studios bed.
Rest ist he same as the Martin Sex scene.
That´s it. Ryan route finished. No more scenes needed.
Swinging
Requirement: being on threesome route Olivia/Graham oder Ryan/Margo
shows up: DMD, Part 3 oder 4
There is the swingersex scene that has already taken place. But this time there is partner switch. After the first orgasm both men are still horny, but one of the women needs some rest. So both men are now banging the remaining woman. That is either D, Olivia or Margo. The resting woman watches them, masturbates. She joins them, later.
That´s it. Swining route finished, MMF finished. No more scenes needed
D/Hugh
Requirement: none, possible on all routes
shows up: DMD, part 3
Hugh meets D on the models convention. He suggests her to come into his hotel room, later. Everybody knows the reason. If she does so, he promises to stand up for her on the convention. D is shocked, but thinks about it. She talks to the other models about it. They advise her to do it, especially Tyra. Apparently D goes into it, meets Hugh at his room. She really isn´t interested, wants to make him a mess. He pretends to understand, he offers her a drink. The player decides whether she accepts it or not. If so, D feels arroused and horny as fuck, soon. There was an strong aphrodisiac in her drink. But she never finds out. Now Hugh takes his chance, makes a move on her. Tipsy and arroused by the drink, she lets herself be seduced. She doesn't care about protection, neither does he. They have sex several times in a row. Meanwhile, Tyra, who was hidden in the room, is taking photos. If the player follow this route, this fotos will be the evidence to blackmail D. So D looses the model convention, this way. Hugh also lied to her, he didn't stand up for her. He just wanted to fuck her.
In the end of this route the same drama takes place that is already in the game.
Alternative ending
Requirements: D had unprotected Sex, she did not take the pill in DMD part 3
Shown up: end of DMD part 4
D feels unconfortale. She is doing a pregnancy test. The played decides, if it´s positive or negative. If it´s positiv, there will be a pragnancy ending. On the last render, maybe in a hospital, D is holding a child. If D had sex with Martin, the player decides, whether the child is black or white. If the player was not on the Martin route, there will be always a white child. If the pregnancy test was negative, there will be another ending. If the child is white, who may be the daddy? F? Ryan? Graham? Hugh? Only the player will ever know. The rest oft he game can go vanilla, as planed
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That´s it. You see, if you´re open-mind, it´s not so difficult to spice up the game. And there is not very much work left to be done. The character already exists, as do the places and stories. All you need to do, make the sex scenes. Of course it will take time, maybe monts. But lets be honest, DMD part 4 will take years of development. Will some more months make a difference?
These scenes are just examples. There is much more possible. If there is the will. This kind of scenes would be avoidable, depending on the chosen routes. If you don´t like it, you dont have to see it. But such scenes are missing in the entire game. But shall we ever see anything of this kind? I doubt it.
Exactly, I can. People whined, they changed. People whined again, they changed again. So keep whining, let's see what else can be gottenCouldn't you say the exact same thing about the decision to truncate if not outright abandon MMF and sharing pathways in the first place?
This should be the banner for this thread.don't worry. F will always be the alpha. there will not be any stealing. F & D will be together.
I total agree with you. But the main story is about F and D. Other stuff will be side content. There is a very great anti lobby against a lot of stuff, also. There is not much, we can do about it. So, all my pruposals are meant to be compromises. I think, it is much better to get a little something than not at allI dont like the idea of a 1-scene only for each character.
I rather have Martin or Ryan or Graham or another dude to be selected and have a route for him and D&F.
to have sex immediately it seems odd, D should be a bit resistant about that and need to take it slow.
my envision is that D and Martin will do something, but will not take it all the way, maybe just kissing/hugging/touching.
after that D should reveal this to F and from there F is in the game for MMF scenes, that also should be slow.
after years waiting I dont want it rushed.
No one ever said, MMF stuff will be killed off.Look, I'm not gonna say that MMF should be cut. If the devs want it, do it. Fine by me. I just don't find it interesting.
But what's with the FFM content that has been slowly built up for such a long time now? It seems like it never quite comes to fruition, and now it may be "killed off"? Jennifer, Elena and D, as well as some other female side characters, have an entire pool of interesting potential dynamics to draw from. I think there's so much being wasted there.
Give this guy some credit, everyone has an ending off choosing, democracy....thats the wayWhat I really don´t understand is why so much of you guys are against NTR, sharing content. Why are you generally against another guys dick to approach? DMD was tagged with cheating, sharing all the time from the beginning. It always was planed as avoidable side content. Nobody would have seen this, if he don´t likes to. There would have been no harm. Nevertheless some guys did everything, to prevent this kind of content, until now. What came of it? At the end, DMD it a largely empty game, especially part 1 and 2. The little erotic in the whole game, repeats itself constantly. Most is vanilla. There is hardly any variety. Doesn't that bother you? Even the biggest fan has to notice that.
Would these people are a bit more open-minded, DMD would be easy to spice up. I am happy to share some ideas with you:
Elena/Adam.
Requirement: reject Elena all the time
shows up: allways possible
Adam, Elenas father´s friend, has crush on her. Everybody knows. If you rejected her, Adam will approach her. He already did. If you choose so, Elena is not in a relationship, so she can have whoever she wants. So, let them have Sex. Maybe in the car, maybe at Elenas home, when her father is not there.
D/Martin
Requirement: choosen Matin Route
shows up: DMD, part 3
D comes home from another photoshoot with Ryan, F is not home. D spots Martin taking a shower. Seeing him naked excites her. The player decides whether she joins him or not. If we do, she undress and joins him. Taken by suprise, they start to make out and fondle. Finally they leave the shower. They either go to the guest bedroom or the main bedroom (there already is too much shower sex in the game), having sex. What they will do, missionary, doggy, riding, the player decides. Both orgasm, he cums inside her. Then they both cuddle, enjoy how great it was. But D suggests it was a one time thing. Martin accepts and finally drives home.
Even more Martin?
Requirement: D had sex with Martin
shows up: DMD, part 4
D and F go to sleep. F falls asleep immediately. D lies awake for a long time, she remembers the night with Martin. Excited, she falls asleep.
Change of scenes. Martin finally arrived home. He lies in his bed awake, too. , He remembers the night with D. Excited, he falls asleep. In his dream, there is D in the bedroom door, suddenly. She wears nothing, but a smile and hot lingerie. D joins Matin, gives head. Next they are having sex, she rides him. They orgams.
One morge change of scenes. D wakes up. She and Martin had the same dream
Thats it. Martin route is finished. No more scenes needed.
Ryan
Requirement: choosen Ryan route
shows up: DMD, part 3 oder 4
D has another photoshoot with Ryan. Now she trusts him. Therefore F and Cassandra are not there. After the photoshoot Ryan is horny as fuck. He makes a move on D. The player decides whether D responds him or not. If she does, they kiss and have sex in the studios bed.
Rest ist he same as the Martin Sex scene.
That´s it. Ryan route finished. No more scenes needed.
Swinging
Requirement: being on threesome route Olivia/Graham oder Ryan/Margo
shows up: DMD, Part 3 oder 4
There is the swingersex scene that has already taken place. But this time there is partner switch. After the first orgasm both men are still horny, but one of the women needs some rest. So both men are now banging the remaining woman. That is either D, Olivia or Margo. The resting woman watches them, masturbates. She joins them, later.
That´s it. Swining route finished, MMF finished. No more scenes needed
D/Hugh
Requirement: none, possible on all routes
shows up: DMD, part 3
Hugh meets D on the models convention. He suggests her to come into his hotel room, later. Everybody knows the reason. If she does so, he promises to stand up for her on the convention. D is shocked, but thinks about it. She talks to the other models about it. They advise her to do it, especially Tyra. Apparently D goes into it, meets Hugh at his room. She really isn´t interested, wants to make him a mess. He pretends to understand, he offers her a drink. The player decides whether she accepts it or not. If so, D feels arroused and horny as fuck, soon. There was an strong aphrodisiac in her drink. But she never finds out. Now Hugh takes his chance, makes a move on her. Tipsy and arroused by the drink, she lets herself be seduced. She doesn't care about protection, neither does he. They have sex several times in a row. Meanwhile, Tyra, who was hidden in the room, is taking photos. If the player follow this route, this fotos will be the evidence to blackmail D. So D looses the model convention, this way. Hugh also lied to her, he didn't stand up for her. He just wanted to fuck her.
In the end of this route the same drama takes place that is already in the game.
Alternative ending
Requirements: D had unprotected Sex, she did not take the pill in DMD part 3
Shown up: end of DMD part 4
D feels unconfortale. She is doing a pregnancy test. The played decides, if it´s positive or negative. If it´s positiv, there will be a pragnancy ending. On the last render, maybe in a hospital, D is holding a child. If D had sex with Martin, the player decides, whether the child is black or white. If the player was not on the Martin route, there will be always a white child. If the pregnancy test was negative, there will be another ending. If the child is white, who may be the daddy? F? Ryan? Graham? Hugh? Only the player will ever know. The rest oft he game can go vanilla, as planed
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That´s it. You see, if you´re open-mind, it´s not so difficult to spice up the game. And there is not very much work left to be done. The character already exists, as do the places and stories. All you need to do, make the sex scenes. Of course it will take time, maybe monts. But lets be honest, DMD part 4 will take years of development. Will some more months make a difference?
These scenes are just examples. There is much more possible. If there is the will. This kind of scenes would be avoidable, depending on the chosen routes. If you don´t like it, you dont have to see it. But such scenes are missing in the entire game. But shall we ever see anything of this kind? I doubt it.