RustyV

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You should just get away from the word NTR, please. In most cases it is not true. Look around here in the threat a bit. At one point Jeff Steel officially explains what NTR really is.

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There are simply people who would very much like to see sex with other men in DMD. These are the original fans of DMD, of whom there are hardly any left here in the thread. Incidentally, this game was originally planned with more content that also includes other men. Elena, for example, should, if you decide against her, have sex with Adam. There was also some planned for the farmer boy. Some was planned with the other photographer, not Ryan. I can't think of his name right now. And much more. There are even people now who would like to have their own game with Elena. Well, that wouldn't have been necessary if only DMD had been allowed to develop as it was originally planned.

So what happened? Well, the same thing that happened to Bigbrother. At some point, more and more people came along who always expected that only the MC would get everything. And on the other hand, scream NTR when a woman has sex with another man in a game. Even if it's her own husband. The same people have no problem with "taking away" other men 's women in games, even though that is exactly the NTR. Unfortunately, the developer allowed himself to be persuaded and changed his plans a lot. Today's DMD is not even close to what was once planned.

Of course there was a lot of argument. And at the end of CH3 it escalated so far that the developer finally had an understanding, worked out a compromise and in the end added a few scenes with other men. And even provides some for CH4. Actually, because of the “any other guys dick hater”, he wanted to delete such content entirely. Although they were actually always planned. Many games have simply been messed up this way. Now also DMD. It's not the first time. And it will definitely not be the last time.

And that is the real reason why NTR hater, or "Any other guys dick hater", as I call them, because they are really just that, are so hated here in this forum. It is not due to their de facto hostility towards content with other men. That has long been accepted, everyone has their own personal taste. It is due to their behavior, generally specifically picking out all games that are planned with cheating, sharing, NTR, etc., implanting their threads, constantly dragging on alleged NTR, even though they usually don't even know what NTR really is, and then get developers to change their plans. Because that happens all the time.

Maybe now you understand.
IMO your observation has merit. I've been playing DMD since it was first released to the general public. There was a different feel to the VN in the beginning, the corruption petals alone led one to believe that D would be gradually getting into more extreme kinks. There was open and imaginative forum speculation over what would be next. But then that all seemed to change in Chapter 2 about the time when Patreon become not just an open platform but an editor censuring content.
I don't know if it was an "OH SHIT!" reaction by the team but the tone and direction of the VN did change, and IMO not necessarily for the better.
The problem seems to be that it is not practical to make a VN where there is both a heavy D Only plot and a strong D Sharing plot. Maybe if this was the team's only VN they could have done an every other month release of plots, one month D Only the next D Sharing. But now we have a hybrid.
The one thing that I do find odd is that it appears as if the majority of people who have stated the VN should have ended with Chapter 2 seem to be D Onlyers. Then when the team drifts toward more D Sharing they cry that there is not enough D Only content.
Personally I do agree that a D Only path could have ended with Chapter 2, it made sense story-wise. But then that would have meant a loss of revenue.
 
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Uthuriel

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Man, I wish I would have known about this game sooner. I'd have loved to see this project evolve from the beginning.
 
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cxx

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That frankly depresses me. The F/D incest is hot if you don't think too hard about it, but marriage? pregnancy? Both of those are a pain in the ass in real life, why drag them into porn? And fucked-up Alabama babies too.... ugh. Hopefully it'll be avoidable.
play sisterly lust and then come here and say same again.
 
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souf

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I have a problem

(Chapter 1) I stuck up in that Lucas guy come to our house first time. We have to go to the market and after we go Lucas came here. We will return and kick him in the ass but still game over. I have no other choice but the going to market. What should I do?

Is there a way to not lose it all?
 

Uthuriel

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I have a problem

(Chapter 1) I stuck up in that Lucas guy come to our house first time. We have to go to the market and after we go Lucas came here. We will return and kick him in the ass but still game over. I have no other choice but the going to market. What should I do?

Is there a way to not lose it all?
You didn't sign D up for self-defence class on Day 10.
It's rewind time...

You have to reload an earlier save.
 

hzjujk

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You should just get away from the word NTR, please. In most cases it is not true. Look around here in the threat a bit. At one point Jeff Steel officially explains what NTR really is.

Back to the subject:
There are simply people who would very much like to see sex with other men in DMD. These are the original fans of DMD, of whom there are hardly any left here in the thread. Incidentally, this game was originally planned with more content that also includes other men. Elena, for example, should, if you decide against her, have sex with Adam. There was also some planned for the farmer boy. Some was planned with the other photographer, not Ryan. I can't think of his name right now. And much more. There are even people now who would like to have their own game with Elena. Well, that wouldn't have been necessary if only DMD had been allowed to develop as it was originally planned.

So what happened? Well, the same thing that happened to Bigbrother. At some point, more and more people came along who always expected that only the MC would get everything. And on the other hand, scream NTR when a woman has sex with another man in a game. Even if it's her own husband. The same people have no problem with "taking away" other men 's women in games, even though that is exactly the NTR. Unfortunately, the developer allowed himself to be persuaded and changed his plans a lot. Today's DMD is not even close to what was once planned.

Of course there was a lot of argument. And at the end of CH3 it escalated so far that the developer finally had an understanding, worked out a compromise and in the end added a few scenes with other men. And even provides some for CH4. Actually, because of the “any other guys dick hater”, he wanted to delete such content entirely. Although they were actually always planned. Many games have simply been messed up this way. Now also DMD. It's not the first time. And it will definitely not be the last time.

And that is the real reason why NTR hater, or "Any other guys dick hater", as I call them, because they are really just that, are so hated here in this forum. It is not due to their de facto hostility towards content with other men. That has long been accepted, everyone has their own personal taste. It is due to their behavior, generally specifically picking out all games that are planned with cheating, sharing, NTR, etc., implanting their threads, constantly dragging on alleged NTR, even though they usually don't even know what NTR really is, and then get developers to change their plans. Because that happens all the time.

Maybe now you understand.
In my opinion, NTR is primarily about loss of control (loss of power). It is like that in real life and also when experiencing a story told. The more I identify with the main character and connect emotionally to her, the more uncomfortable such a situation becomes. Real life or not. This can be described as poor but is also part of our social heritage.
Men advertise, women choose!
So if I want to avoid such situations in a game then I am not a "dick hater" but avoid the uncomfortable loss of control, but
I have no objection to an in-game gangbang that the MC would be involved in.
 

Uthuriel

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some humans generally. in game d and f in this case.
So you think that D and F shouldn't have gone to the self-defense class.

I'm still not sure why exactly.

In my own personal experience going to a self-defense class is something I would recommend for everyone.
There are too many assholes out there. Everybody should be able to defend themselves.
 
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