Trikus

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Yeah, no. That could definitely be said for what her character was up until about 4 updates ago but lately? Now she's written like someone that wouldn't eat a meal or take a breath without her father's expressed blessing. It's one thing to be naive and subservient and another to not be able to think and act for herself at all. Then having her father talk about her to Martin like he's talking about a pet dog, lol. She's right there sleeping and he's like "she's not a goldfish, man" when she's so much less. A fn goldfish has more self-determination than D, lmao.
Would you care to give me examples because what you are writing is pure BS. D is making decisions for herself, the biggest being Martin. F is mostly going along with her decisions at this point in the story. Who invites Elena and/or Jennifer to join them at the hotel? D. Who initiates sex when they get back from the club (when not with Martin)? D. Who initiates sex during the sunrise? D. F hardly says a word during the meeting with Leah. That is all D making her own choices. The only decision she defers to F is how much alcohol they are drinking as it has been well established she can't handle her drink.

Also, he uses "she's not a goldfish" because Martin is being an ass and only thinking about himself and not considering D's feelings. He wants to just disappear but since D cares for Martin, she would feel abandoned if Martin just left without a word. That is why F gets angry with him. He isn't talking about her like a pet, he is talking about her as a human being with human feelings.
 
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Swinging is not NTR, though the protagonist does get uncomfortable at first and you've got plenty of opportunities to chicken out if you're too insecure about your relationship with your girl :WeSmart:

I'm very pleased this game is approaching the stag & vixen lifestyle, too few games ever cover this. You can be a dominant man with a slutty girl and decide whom her bulls/bucks will be. As things stand, I'm hoping to include Rachel and Tyra at some point - maybe a twisted filthy path where they try to tempt the MC away from the daughter, causing her to embrace her inner slut with other men out of jealousy or spite. No happy ending here, but lots of depraved sex for both the daughter and the MC :BootyTime:
 

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MrDots doesn't need to confirm, because that's simply not true.
The story was always between D and F. Sure, F corrupts D for incest love, but never meant for more than that, except the sharing with martin (if you are on that path)
Also i confirm that there was NOT an ntr tag before and also that tag is wrong, as there is no ntr in the game at all. Only wanted sharing...
Yeah, hell, I don't even play this game and know it's not NTR. Looks like developer is going to need to make another appeal, again. Also ... to back up Hyperserver -
Nov/Dec 2019:
OneWayMissile said:
This game has the ntr tag on it. So I expect ntr on the game
The NTR tag has finally been removed from game :)
Jan 2021:
Ntr is defined here by the tag definition. It doesn't matter what people feel ntr is or what anyone's discord say ntr is. Here all that matters is f95's definition of ntr.
Which is why this vn doesn't have a ntr tag. I don't think it could be any simpler than that...
3 weeks ago:
it has avoided NTR tag simply by the fact that there is no NTR inside the game at all :p
 

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Swinging is not NTR, though the protagonist does get uncomfortable at first and you've got plenty of opportunities to chicken out if you're too insecure about your relationship with your girl :WeSmart:

I'm very pleased this game is approaching the stag & vixen lifestyle, too few games ever cover this. You can be a dominant man with a slutty girl and decide whom her bulls/bucks will be. As things stand, I'm hoping to include Rachel and Tyra at some point - maybe a twisted filthy path where they try to tempt the MC away from the daughter, causing her to embrace her inner slut with other men out of jealousy or spite. No happy ending here, but lots of depraved sex for both the daughter and the MC :BootyTime:
Most people here don't even know the difference between the different tags. They base their opinions on what they think it means, not what it actually means. Anyone who has a basic understanding of swinging knows it isn't NTR, or "cucking".
 

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I don't remember this character, and if she has appeared before, please remind me. If she is new, I have a theory on who she is. Does Rachel have a sister or cousin? She looks just like Rachel, just with red hair and a smaller chest. Oh, and she doesn't look miserable or have a permenant scowl like Rachel.

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no it doesn't load save files created by previous versions of my port.
keep an eye for the game version the save files were created by.
I'm saying I'm having to replay chapter4 all over again because my saves for chapter4 are gone and no i didn't delete them i downloaded your port like always but the saves just aren't there . I just wanted to bring it to your attention just incase I'm not the only one
 

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The admins use NTR for all 3 forms of it, Netorare, Netori and Netorase. There is Netorase (swinging) in this game
Netorase isn't swinging. Netorase is one member of a couple cheating with permission from the other member. Swinging isn't cheating as you are still committed to the main partner and both partners are able to be with other people.
 

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I don't remember this character, and if she has appeared before, please remind me. If she is new, I have a theory on who she is. Does Rachel have a sister or cousin? She looks just like Rachel, just with red hair and a smaller chest. Oh, and she doesn't look miserable or have a permenant scowl like Rachel.

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I don’t remember either.
 

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I'm saying I'm having to replay chapter4 all over again because my saves for chapter4 are gone and no i didn't delete them i downloaded your port like always but the saves just aren't there . I just wanted to bring it to your attention just incase I'm not the only one
then you most likely upgraded from Android 10 to something newer.
copy the folder /Android/data/RenPy to / and all your persistent saves are there for you.
 

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Thanks for the update. Really enjoyed it. Since I'm not someone to share, nor pimp out, a woman with whom I'm in a relationship, I'm more than fine with the story line. All the girls are heartbreakingly cute. To those who see a redemption path for Rachel, please send me some of what you're smoking. All that's happened here is that she's looking to crash Koko's party without any regard to the wishes of F & D or what her abuse of the invite might do to their relationship with Koko. Not sure how total selfishness contributes to someones redemption.
 
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Finally the NTR tag.
D would never go out alone with another man: LIE
Sharing would be consented in chapter 3: LIE
Chapter 4 would consent to the ending of the novel: LIE.
When I said that this developer is a mercenary, I was crucified. there's the shit that this game has become, a sharing fetish.
I said I would wait for this release to see if I would give up or not, well, the game can go to shit where it never should have left.
And don't be scared if there's a chapter 5, it's making money, fuck the story, just make D fuck everyone, and the money will come in.
A great pity, a great romance that was at the beginning and turned into this.
 
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