VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[TheFapperBoy]

What's really shitty is that these guys are on their own. They have no leverage in this situation. No possibility of it going viral, because the subject in question is Taboo. I doubt any other creators out there will be willing to stick out their necks for "creative freedom" if they aren't in the same boat too. Look at what happened when Patreon changed the way they took their cut, and affected $1 contributions. The internet had a meltdown, and they immediately back pedaled.

 

[JoeSmoeDoe]

Reliable for someone accepting donations off the internet? absolutely. But absolutely not in a professional sense of the word.

You can't seriously be that much of a tool. "

I donated a lot of money to that dots in it's infancy. Why would you assume I didn't? And why would any of that make what I said less valid? If you have a good reason why he can't release it now the same way he's said he's going to in a month let's hear it. I only stopped supporting it after the two month period he delayed a month and then released an update with almost no new content. He's getting 100 fold more a month in revenue then when he first started. But the updates have remained the same. Didn't seem like he was putting the money to use. I don't feel bad playing now considering I donated hundreds of dollars then and for only 5 dollars now you get ALL the updates.

 

[JoeSmoeDoe]

Does anyone have another source other that mrdots on patreons enforcement policy? Another content creator's opinion or an article or something? it just feels like a convenient excuse he's been using this past year to both delay the sex between F&D, as well as rally his subscribers behind him in a cause. Both of those things extend his profits.

 

[Anon-e-Mouse]

Does anyone have another source other that mrdots on patreons enforcement policy? Another content creator's opinion or an article or something? it just feels like a convenient excuse he's been using this past year to both delay the sex between F&D, as well as rally his subscribers behind him in a cause. Both of those things extend his profits.

1 - He's not the only dev. READ THE THREAD.
2 - He's not charging anyone on the 1st of February. So he's not going to get any more money until he figures out what he's going to do to keep this train rolling.
So, yeah... Try again.

 

[TheFapperBoy]

Does anyone have another source other that mrdots on patreons enforcement policy? Another content creator's opinion or an article or something? it just feels like a convenient excuse he's been using this past year to both delay the sex between F&D, as well as rally his subscribers behind him in a cause. Both of those things extend his profits.

Dude, you can't be this dense. This Patreon debacle has nothing to do with the progression of the story. Those two things don't correlate. There's a lot of people that agree with you that MrDots is advancing the story as slowly as possible, myself included... but that has been going on for a long time now. Way before any of us had to worry about Patreon. Are you understanding what I'm saying to you? This discussion is about how Patreon is affecting the PRODUCTION of the game, not the PROGRESSION. I know you think that you understand what's happening here, but you don't. If you need us to start naming other creators that have been affected by this, then you clearly have NO CLUE on what's going on.

If you want to complain about the progression of the game, don't group up it in with the Patreon stuff.

 

[Pantisocrat]

Dude, you can't be this dense.

Pretty sure he's trolling.

 

[JoeSmoeDoe]

Dude, you can't be this dense.

Jesus you guys I don't stay current in the politics of porn. I'm not saying he's making it up. But as you said he's been delaying it long before this issue came out. It feels to me he is taking advantage of it and using it as an excuse for why he can't deliver content. I asked what is stopping him from releasing content, that was due today, today?

2 - He's not charging anyone on the 1st of February. So he's not going to get any more money until he figures out what he's going to do to keep this train rolling.

As far as I'm aware he's not shutting his patreon down. He will still be collecting donations form those 4000+ people for his "new project"

 

[Anon-e-Mouse]

Jesus you guys I don't stay current in the politics of porn. I'm not saying he's making it up. But as you said he's been delaying it long before this issue came out. It feels to me he is taking advantage of it and using it as an excuse for why he can't deliver content. I asked what is stopping him from releasing content, that was due today, today?


As far as I'm aware he's not shutting his patreon down. He will still be collecting donations form those 4000+ people for his "new project"

Once again, READ THE THREAD. He's not collecting anything for at least a month from patreon. If you READ THE THREAD you would understand that and understand what has happened this week that is preventing him from releasing what he planned to release. So stop spamming the thread, and spend a little while READING IT.

 

[TheFapperBoy]

what is stopping him from releasing content, that was due today, today?

I'll agree with you on one thing, and is that. That's the biggest thing that rubs me the wrong way. The last preview he posted was on January 19th. He said on January 26th that he received a message "earlier this week" about his situation, and that he received a response "three days later". All of this happened in the span of 1 week. I guess the thing that I find hardest to believe is that MrDots is cutting the deadline so close every month. He's on time without fail every single time to the point where there's no way he doesn't complete updates at least 1.5 weeks before a release. I'm not on the staff, and have no insight on this, but to me it doesn't make sense. My other gripe is that he waited until the day before the update to relay this information to his patreons when he had this information for several days.

If I had to take a guess, I'd say he just wants to gauge the situation. I don't believe for a second that the update isn't completed, but he wants to see how big of a hit he's expected to take with this new project/migration of host.

That's just my opinion.

 

[Dolphin3000]

Why doesn't MrDots do a bullshit game for Patreon, something taking him 1 day of work/month and continuing working on DmD and releasing it on his site or by mail or whatevs. People won't complain about shit game being shit, because they'll know they are in fact paying for Dmd. Don't understand what's the issue here...

That's basically the idea I suggested for him:
Maybe it can work even better this way. I suggest you don’t create a new game to be presented on Patreon, instead you:
1- Create sexy 3D renders there, so your current patreons and new ones can keep supporting your game (Dating My Daughter) through Patreon.
2- You keep developing DMD and you release it outside Patreon, in MEGA or something like it.
3- The images you create for DMD that can be displayed in Patreon, will be the ones you will be releasing there from time to time, and for Patreon records these images are what your patreons are supporting you to do.

 

[atlas114]

at least we'll get the uncensored v0.16 tomorrow to hold us down until mid-February. hopefully someone can share it here for us when that drops.

 

[muttdoggy]

We'll play this situation out like pirates.. on a day to day basis. Many of the posts here are what I called "speculative" posts. It's a guess as to what may come from this situation. So, speculative posts are what they are- guesses and nothing more.
I could speculate that Mr Dots encountered bugs and was fixing it while polishing the last few renders on monday when this all started to happen. He gets upset, has to deal with Patreon telling him they're gonna ban him and delete his page. So he has to take some time to respond in a way that helps him keep his page. Then he's told to wait a few days. In the meantime, he's scrambling to come up with alternatives to preserve his revenue source which is DMD, of course. He gets the okay to continue with a different game but NO DMD. In the meantime, he's got real life to live...
Of course, this is merely speculation.
Unless you actually read his responses.

 

[Pantisocrat]

That's basically the idea I suggested for him:
Maybe it can work even better this way. I suggest you don’t create a new game to be presented on Patreon, instead you:
1- Create sexy 3D renders there, so your current patreons and new ones can keep supporting your game (Dating My Daughter) through Patreon.
2- You keep developing DMD and you release it outside Patreon, in MEGA or something like it.
3- The images you create for DMD that can be displayed in Patreon, will be the ones you will be releasing there from time to time, and for Patreon records these images are what your patreons are supporting you to do.

There are two problems here. The first is that, as far as I know, Patreon have basically made it clear that it won't be possible for MrDots to run a Patreon project called "Dating My Daughter" so long as it implies incest (ie, something like the sitcom 8 Simple Rules For Dating My Teenage Daughter would be OK, since it's about other people dating the daughter).

So the solution is to run dummy content entirely unrelated, which leads to the second problem: Not every patron is aware of F95zone and similar places. How does MrDots tell those people where to get the 'real' content, without being caught by Patreon? A considerable percentage won't know what's really going on and will be asking on his Patreon page. And if someone gives them the answer on his Patreon page, that could be him fucked again, page shut down, banned etc. And even if that doesn't happen, and nobody helps those people, they're going to stop pledging if all they're getting is this dummy content.

And all of that is assuming Patreon are willing to go along with this "Don't ask, don't tell" style approach. If there are people out there reporting this stuff to them, there's no guarantee they won't just swing the hammer anyway, dummy content or no dummy content. I believe the email to Faerin hinted that this setup was possible, but who knows what'll happen down the line. The only thing I feel reasonably certain of is that the best-case scenario, where things continue more or less as before, is not going to happen :frown:

 

[Haremm lover]

What about DMD 0.17? Any idea anyone?

 

[fried]

. . . I guess the thing that I find hardest to believe is that MrDots is cutting the deadline so close every month. He's on time without fail every single time to the point where there's no way he doesn't complete updates at least 1.5 weeks before a release. I'm not on the staff, and have no insight on this, but to me it doesn't make sense. My other gripe is that he waited until the day before the update to relay this information to his patreons when he had this information for several days. . .

I don't know the inside story either, but the past few releases felt like he was still making more than just minor final touches and debugging in the final week, from how he would describe what made it into that month's package and why. Combine that with changes to the game mechanics for saves and all the issues with trying to get Chapter 2 to smoothly work with Chapter 1 saves for most users and I figure he's had his hands full up until the final day or close to it. Maybe I've read too much into his words.

 

[Tarona]

Patreon is not kidding around

DMD and Big Brother are both gone.

Others, such as Parental Love had to be drastically change in order to be kept in Patreon. At least Luxee is planning a patch in Lewd patcher

 

[morbidpenguin]

Patreon is not kidding around

DMD and Big Brother are both gone.

Others, such as Parental Love had to be drastically change in order to be kept in Patreon. At least Luxee is planning a patch in Lewd patcher

We need a NSFW version of Patreon specifically for lewd stuff. This is Super Bullshit 64.

 

[JDgamer]

Nooooo!!!! wtf man! Bullshiiit!

 

[Stay Frosty]

There are alternative crowdfunding sites, why don't these creators use those instead? Out of curiosity...

 

[Pyjak Slayer]

I know it has been said dozens of times. But we really need a crowdfunding website that doesn't interfere. They get their cut, dev gets their cut, end of story. Kind of like Gab with the whole Twitter situation, we would need something similar right about now.