VN Ren'Py Completed Dating My Daughter [Ch. 1-4 v1.01] [MrDots Games]

[Jeff Steel]

It does make sense to me.
For some of us, such as myself, DMD--and D!!--can't be replaced.
But the new project should be given a fair chance to succeed. There are quite a few tweaks available (especially Daz improvements) plus a more experienced dev-team.

btw, @Aitan_3 , gave the thread the name "Mel". Otherwise, he was even more coy than usual. The starlet stuff was a wild guess by a thread member. I'd NEVER request insider info from you, Jeff...

I was chatting (in f95zone space) with RomanHume, both of us apparently have heavy Dungeon and Dragon backgrounds. In my discussion with him, we both liked well drafted PCs and NPCs. In other words, who cares if someone has a 10th level paladin with a griffon mount. What’s more important is that person’s flaws and strengths - their hope and fears. What drives the character.

I can tell you that the quality of workmanship in the development phase is equal to the quality of product in the second half of chapter 1 of DMD and Chapter 2 - this is evident in the beginning of this new project. I come with a theater and film background, a film/theater overall structure is being discussed. Some of my inputs have a heavy image sequence suggested as opposed to just providing dialogue.

Characters flaws are being discussed as are character arcs related to those flaws.

There is some really good shit being bandied around. It should be really really good. I’m hoping it gets to breathtaking - and I’m just talking about the script.

Unfortunately, it’s not my call to talk about characters and plot - but hopefully the above will either leave you satisfied or drive you to further distraction. (If it leaves you blasé- then that would suck)

 

[Pantisocrat]

I also studied theater (but gravitated towards writing) and art.
Dialogues are far less important in VNs because the visuals are too over-powering. Trying theatrical techniques to progress plot and character traits won't work with your target audience

(Film-school grad here) I don't know much about theatrical techniques per se, but cinematic (and comic-book) techniques grounded in montage theory seem easily applicable. As for dialogue, I don't think I can properly gauge how important it is, since I've only been reading VNs for a year or so, and most of the dialogue in VNs is, objectively, terrible on so many levels that it's hard to say exactly how important really well-written dialogue would be. But one thing I do think is that

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of no more than 30-35 words per comic-book panel is probably a good idea for VNs, too.

 

[slackster]

Any chance mods can make a new thread for Mr Dots new game and move all discussion of it there?

Let this thread stay on topic of DmD

Seems like devs are shilling their new project on the carcass of DMD and with the news of it being on hold seems a bit crass

 

[Wolf120]

That’s the ending of chapter 1

ohhh. Lol where can i get chapter 2

 

[Derecklopex]

hey guys, i am sorry if u have seen this question too many times, but can someone help me, my save file does not show when i want to bein chapter 2 what to do ?

 

[Jeff Steel]

(Film-school grad here) I don't know much about theatrical techniques per se, but cinematic (and comic-book) techniques grounded in montage theory seem easily applicable. As for dialogue, I don't think I can properly gauge how important it is, since I've only been reading VNs for a year or so, and most of the dialogue in VNs is, objectively, terrible on so many levels that it's hard to say exactly how important really well-written dialogue would be. But one thing I do think is that

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of no more than 30-35 words per comic-book panel is probably a good idea for VNs, too.

Good point. I posted last month over in Patreon an observation that in DMD, eye fatigue for me in reading text started about the halfway mark of the computer screen. Any sentences longer than that, and for which I was not emotionally invested, often were not read fully - or were even skipped.

Thus my theory:
1 - if it is mundane (how was your day - I’m going to the store - etc) dialogue that moves the scene, but the reader has no emotional investment .... then keep it around half the computer screen or less in length;
2 - if I had an emotional investment causing me to read the whole line, then it could go the whole line, then okay (“Dad, Elena and I want to do a threesome with you up at the snow cabin on Saturday night, okay?”
3 - if it is super important, then keep it short as well. (“Dad, I’m pregnant...” [next panel] “...with your baby.”)

 

[Deathdawg]

hey guys, i am sorry if u have seen this question too many times, but can someone help me, my save file does not show when i want to bein chapter 2 what to do ?

You can try what I had to do and that is re-open chapter 1 and run the game from save to the very end where you see the end page before going to the main menu, or clicking to continue, open up chapter 2 and it should register and on chapter 2 you have to start a new game as it will then read your save and the decisions made on chapter 1

 

[Jeff Steel]

Any chance mods can make a new thread for Mr Dots new game and move all discussion of it there?

Let this thread stay on topic of DmD

Seems like devs are shilling their new project on the carcass of DMD and with the news of it being on hold seems a bit crass

Patreon specifically said no DMD on Patreon, take it off; however, you can stay on Patreon with a new product.

MDots posted he really wants to finish DMD; there is no other site to post DMD in his research and opinion; therefore he picked a high quality second product for Patreon and continuing with development on DMD.

Fortunately, and if continues as planned, it means two products being developed; unfortunately, it means slower development for DMD.

 

[Jeff Steel]

ohhh. Lol where can i get chapter 2

Isnt

ohhh. Lol where can i get chapter 2

You are asking a now “guest” developer where you can get a pirated copy of DMD. I’ll answer questions but am staying away from that on moral grounds. Lol

 

[Nullx54]

What I think is that the H-game community is becoming going too far into the spotlight and we all know that we can't just be open about this. People that are too PC are gonna sound the alarm.So I'd say it's a blessing in disguise because at least it would allow for people to be motivated to set up their own "H-Patreon". I think itch.io could have the potential to be the place where h-game creators and artist can post their content as long as it's regulated and whatnot.

 

[ltpika]

This is why I was opposed to the slow burn and piling on of extra characters. I just figured it would be author burn-out like a lot of games (there's a reason 99% of games posted here get the eventually abandoned tag.) Sad day when one of the few committed authors gets taken down.

 

[RustyV]

I have a slight understanding. Incest content has not been banned per say but if a game is all incest content it will be. DoD changed the game as did MoTH so it is a lodger not related by blood. The game here is patched. BB and DmD just never changed it.
Patreon give an example on incest being allowed and that is Game of Thrones. Now my understanding is yes, there is incest in GoT but that incest is not the main focus of the story. It is a side arc that shows up rarely. While BB and DmD were pretty much incest. It can be part of a story just not the main focus of said game.

So what is the magic number of relatives a character can bang? Does Patreon have some incest-sliderule for establishing when enough is enough? Are blowjobs lower on the scale than anal? Can you have a game called Fucking My Daughter But Not Dating Her?
This is smart on Patreon's part. If you ban all games with any incest content out-right there would be a vast pool of potential customers for another site to emerge. but if you only go after offenders that have reached an arbitrary to much family no-no activity then there are not enough defectors to make another site profitable.
I may be wrong but as the threat of competition ebbs Patreon will become less accepting of taboo sex.

 

[RustyV]

Good point. I posted last month over in Patreon an observation that in DMD, eye fatigue for me in reading text started about the halfway mark of the computer screen. Any sentences longer than that, and for which I was not emotionally invested, often were not read fully - or were even skipped.

Thus my theory:
1 - if it is mundane (how was your day - I’m going to the store - etc) dialogue that moves the scene, but the reader has no emotional investment .... then keep it around half the computer screen or less in length;
2 - if I had an emotional investment causing me to read the whole line, then it could go the whole line, then okay (“Dad, Elena and I want to do a threesome with you up at the snow cabin on Saturday night, okay?”
3 - if it is super important, then keep it short as well. (“Dad, I’m pregnant...” [next panel] “...with your baby.”)

Simulated taboo porn and learning, its a winning combination!

 

[RustyV]

To quote Monty Python "We're not here to morally judge you we just want your money."

 

[jackkane]

How dare you post a reasonable and thoughtful assessment in the era of manufactured rage! Rage, I say! Rage against the dying of the bright!

RAMPAGE!!!!!!

 

[ranma100]

It look like Mr.Dot has updated his Patreon website and it stated NEW GAME COMING SOON. On his website one of the paragraph said this, " It will also keep me motivated to not give up and not quit the project, because you trust me with your hard-earned cash and I would feel like s*** if I disappointed you. So basically, that’s what it does for me, indirectly for you. ". Hopefully he will get everything resolve and get this project running again, good luck Mr. Dot.

 

[xsssssssss]

I’m waiting to see how he plans to progress game whilst working on a brand new game. Got my doubts we’ll see this completed unfortunately as I was really enjoying the story.

 

[jackkane]

Ok, here is the deal. Since November/2017 I started to develop an website/croudfunding exactly like Patreon but focused on adult content. I have my own company since 2010 and I am computer programmer since 1998. So my partners and I decided to fulfill this lack, and we thought that we would had time to make it robust and launch before this Patreon's mess happend.

We already are at test phase, for now, all payments and recurring will be made by PayPal (yes, we had created a business account on PayPal). We are taking this very serious. So, in about 2 oe 3 weeks we will be launching the website and hoping that all the Adult Creators migrate to our croudfunding.

We are going to give full support for adult content creators, but of course, all that is right by the law!

That is why I really need to talk with DarkSilver, MrDots and the guys from SummerTime Saga, because they will be the next on Patreon's aim. I want their help to test the platform before we launch.

I hope that we can help each other to have a secure and good place for everyone express their artistics habilities.

fuck paypal try

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[Palvi]

Hello guys,

I have a "problem" with my game. At the 13 day of chapter 1 Lucas came to the appartement en try to rape the daugther during i'm going outside. When i Come back i fight Lucas and save the daughter but she cry and "want her mom" .. so it's a game over and i can't do anything for change that..

Can you help me with that please?

Thank you

 

[Palvi]

I will try that ! Thanks à lot