Creeping Death

dies in loneliness
Donor
Jan 28, 2018
2,307
15,491
theres no NTR in this game.

let's reverse it.
I have been waiting for the MMF from the start. Dev wrote that it will be one route. back in 2016.
- first the "slow" corruption. I thought, we will never get there.
- and the "patron" issues, and the start of Melody.
- Melody "took" 66% of the time from DmD. would DmD be dumped? will they remove routes to make it easier? will I ever get the promised route?
- After half year I started to believe in DmD again, it seems that the DEVs are doing a good job trying to make 2 games.
- Close to Chapter 2 end and no MMF anywhere, I thought, ok, I can't do shit about it, its the end, maybe I get 1 CG about a "future" sharing that I will never see, and "the end".
- Chapter 3 was now on the table and MMF could happen. hurray.
- People are bitching about it. reaaally?

if we reverse it, the ones that should bitch about this, is all the people that want to see the "optional" "promised" fetishes.
Chapter 3 seems to be exactly that. all the fetishes, harem, sharing, pet, love.
we are getting what we have waited almost 3 years. even so, people are bitching about it?
Amen brother baka!
 

Toriam78

Newbie
Mar 4, 2018
73
48
Given that chapter 3 includes all the fetishes, harem, sharing, pet, love, my concern is the tone of the game as I feel like the tone in dialouge is not the same in a harem, sharing scenario and so forth. This would mean that dialouge in the chapter could be adapted for every fetish (some can be combined sure) or it turns into the same tone for all of them risking some of the dialouge not quite fitting the fetish. For example a love route lovey dovey dialouge would crash in my mind with a mmf, sharing fetish.

I cant really see multiple different scripts being written/adapted depending on fetish but I'm merely concerned with making everyone happy and the dialouge making sense for the fetish picked. As long as I can make the choice over what fetish is shown and the dialouge tone is great I wil continue to be a happy camper :)
 

Jeff Steel

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
Jun 2, 2017
1,145
3,048
So. overall ...

Considering that sharing/swapping for this game has been discussed practically since its beginning, anyone surprised it's actually happening might want to revisit their expectations towards this game. We all knew this one particular facet was coming, but perhaps some folks were hoping it might get buried over time as other events took hold. However, as I've written before, D's place in life right now does seem to naturally fit into enabling her (and the MC!) knowingly trying other relationship dynamics that involve other people and seeing what that means to them.

And hey, it's fiction: in real life I was a horribly jealous guy for many years, yet I fully support these fictional characters trying new things I never would have, for reasons of enlivening the story and to expand on their own range of possibilities in the universe within which they live. The game doesn't affect my personal choices in the real world with actual humans in a direct way, but roleplaying could be informative to some degree! My jealousy has actually been tempered by a lot of soul searching over the past decade, and while swapping/sharing isn't something I see in my real-world view for me, I always find it interesting to better understand from the perspectives of other people - maybe even a game can help me learn a bit more about other ways of living through purposeful role-play, regardless of my own path in life. It's just simply one more input towards better understanding other ideas and although it's merely a game option, I'm really curious to see how I react as the MC when allowing and enabling things I am not currently inclined towards in my own life.

But, that's similar for any fetishes I've viewed or even fantasized about which have no real analogue in my life: they stay in the mind, PC, on paper, etc.: fantasy is just that, it ain't real. But, once in awhile, it could be escapist+stimulating and still make one think + feel in ways you hadn't tried before. That doesn't happen for most adult fiction I see and read, but some topics do make me ponder what the characters were doing and why, because the writer may have brought out a point I hadn't considered before. In an adult game, of all things. And, that's the true allure of playing games such as DMD for me: I get to pretend I'm someone else and see where that takes things without any impact in the real world. It's a game.

Apparently, I'm in a minority with these perspectives (at least on F95!), but don't really care: the game is only becoming more entertaining with new options and paths emerging, especially with fresh areas of tension starting to grow. Keeping that drama going and maintaining the high production quality is what keeps me supporting the game.
I’m going to stop replying and let you take over, as everything you say is spot on, echos my POV, and is better written.
 

fried

Almost
Donor
Respected User
Former Staff
Nov 11, 2017
2,313
6,119
I’m going to stop replying and let you take over, as everything you say is spot on, echos my POV, and is better written.
Uh, I was honestly thinking, "if Jeff Steel would reply further on this topic, I'm sure he could make it far more coherent and relatable ..."
 

Jeff Steel

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
Jun 2, 2017
1,145
3,048
Given that chapter 3 includes all the fetishes, harem, sharing, pet, love, my concern is the tone of the game as I feel like the tone in dialouge is not the same in a harem, sharing scenario and so forth. This would mean that dialouge in the chapter could be adapted for every fetish (some can be combined sure) or it turns into the same tone for all of them risking some of the dialouge not quite fitting the fetish. For example a love route lovey dovey dialouge would crash in my mind with a mmf, sharing fetish.

I cant really see multiple different scripts being written/adapted depending on fetish but I'm merely concerned with making everyone happy and the dialouge making sense for the fetish picked. As long as I can make the choice over what fetish is shown and the dialouge tone is great I wil continue to be a happy camper :)
Interesting point on the issue of dialogue.

Besides Polyamory, even I don’t know how the other “highly contested” arcs will go. But, imo, instead of thinking we need to steer D toward the “style of those kinks” ... think more that those kinks will steer toward D. How exactly or successfully that will happen will be seen.
 

TungstenDuck

Member
May 6, 2018
483
914
lol hoes mad. Ya'll realize bestiality was explicitly listed as one of the represented fetishes since the game's first release, right? It was right there until the shit with Patreon went down. Chill, you can simply not pursue it. I don't like the idea of D fucking Martin at all so guess what, I'm just not going to pursue that path on any play through. Calm yer tits.
 

TungstenDuck

Member
May 6, 2018
483
914
Eight, what about all of those who KNEW for years that MMF and bestiality were coming, do they have a right to say MDots has lost some integrity when those outcomes do not happen? I would think they have greater standing to complain.
I'm quite certain that a good number of us gave this game a shot BECAUSE it stated bestiality would be present. Then we discovered the game was good and that made us want that outcome even more.
 

Corvus Belli

Member
Nov 25, 2017
188
372
if you play without the walkthrough it will still be quite obvious what to choose to avoid other males.
I'd actually disagree with that assessment.
For some content, the choice is clear; Elena literally asks if she can develop a relationship with you, and Jennifer is in the process of offering herself to you, but some of the choices are a wee more subtle than that.
Technically, the first MMF choice was simply whether or not you let Martin compliment her; I'd argue it's not obvious at all that letting him compliment her would ultimately lead to them having sex together. Even the second choice (which according to the walkthrough will only come up if you let Martin compliment her in that first option, and that's inaccurate, because it came up for me despite me making the contrary choice) isn't any more obviously something that will clearly lead to them having sex.
Again, and I'm only saying this so blatantly because of how weird the posts have been the last day or so and I'm trying to be crystal clear, I'm fine with the sharing option existing, I just don't agree with you that the choices that might lead to them are always obvious, without the walkthrough.

I had one come up and slap me in the face about a month ago
If you don't mind my curiosity (and if you do, just tell me to go fuck myself with something sharp) what was it? I'm interested in what triggers people's deep-seated emotional responses, primarily because I don't have any of my own, and asking questions about them helps me to understand them.
Also, I have to thank you for mentioning that the knee-jerk I-hate-this-don't-even-include-it-as-an-option reaction is something that counts as a trigger response; it honestly hadn't occurred to me that's what was happening, and I can now try to be a little more understanding of what I previously thought of as mere unthinking hypocrisy. I appreciate the assistance.

Why can't sharing be sharing D with other women?
Some of them are, but when an option is blatantly listed in the walkthrough as "choose this to open up a future MMF route", and said so half way through chapter one, about two years ago, it's absurd to act like the option has came out of left-field, or that you weren't sufficiently warned, or that it's only being included to pander to a huge "cuck advocaacy" conspiracy that's ruining porn.
You don't like it, and I get that, because I don't like it, which is why I'll not be making those choices. Simple as that. From my perspective, those routes might as well not exist, since I'll never encounter them. Where's the harm in those options being included for the people who are deviants in a slightly different manner than I am? Baka, for example, specifically says it's something he's been looking forward to for a while; who am I to deny him a chance to let his freak flag fly?
 
  • Like
Reactions: RustyV and fried

baka

Engaged Member
Modder
Oct 13, 2016
3,738
7,840
Exactly that TungstenDuck. on point.
Im sure we all have our preferences, some bestiality, some sharing, corruptions, harem, you name it.
After the 3 years waiting, the reward will be so much more powerful.
And as Jeff Steel says, we could complain if those fetish got discarded for any reason.
A few times it almost happened, but somehow we are here, Chapter 3 (the reward for waiting)
so, its quite offending when someone is trying his all to shut it down, just because he feel he can, without taking care of the promises and expectation we have.

Corvus Belli, theres nothing Chapter 1&2 with other males on D. so no matter what you do, nothing happens.
Only on Chapter 3, that also is standalone, and will ask you question before you start the game.
So Im quite confident, no matter what you do, D will not get touched by any male in Ch1/2.
 

Sieg Linde

Member
May 19, 2017
228
827
Lately the wait between releases (of any game here really) has been easy. I have other games to play or something to do irl, but I'm hyped for the next release...26 days away.

I don't even have a console game I'm interested in passing the time with right now. : /
 

Jeff Steel

Well-Known Member
Game Developer
Jun 2, 2017
1,145
3,048
Lately the wait between releases (of any game here really) has been easy. I have other games to play or something to do irl, but I'm hyped for the next release...26 days away.

I don't even have a console game I'm interested in passing the time with right now. : /
I know, right? It’s like going to Baskin-Robbins Ice Cream for years, and told there would eventually be 31 flavors, so in the meantime all you get are Strawberry and Vanilla... and one day they tell you the other 29 flavors will start coming in on June 29th.
 

Mytez

Engaged Member
Jul 28, 2017
2,768
12,169
Since it was there from the beginning... that's gonna be a lot of years in the waiting for those who awaited the sharing path.... almost GumDrop levels
It took us a game and a half to bone D, so Martin better be ready to wait for the same time to fuck her when he meets them again, bonding process and all that shit.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Goblin Baily: DILF

Corvus Belli

Member
Nov 25, 2017
188
372
Only on Chapter 3, that also is standalone, and will ask you question before you start the game.
I'm sorry, Baka, I don't think my point was clear. Chapter 3 absolutely will ask me what decisions I've made thus far, you are correct, and I'll record them. Then, at some point, it will give me an option to once again choose a MMF route or not; I'd be surprised if the option is simply never offered based on previous choices, because thus far Mr.Dots has been pretty good at not assuming people might not have changed their minds. My point was that this hypothetical third option isn't necessarily going to be obvious in it's consequence, not without the walkthrough. My evidence for that opinion is that the previous options weren't obvious either, so I have no reason to assume the next one will be.

So Im quite confident, no matter what you do, D will not get touched by any male in Ch1/2.
I disagree; as I said, I think the option will once again be offered, because people might have changed their minds, and based on some of the choices thus far, I don't think it's necessarily going to be obvious. It might be; it might come up immediately after Martin makes a move to kiss D, for example, or (based on the choices we've seen so far) it could honestly just be when he says she looks beautiful when they're all having dinner together.
Let me ask it simply; do you think accepting Martin's compliment of D in Chapter 1 was obviously going to lead to D and Martin having sex? If you didn't have the walkthrough, would you say a MMF route was an obvious consequence of accepting that compliment?
 

armion82

Message Maven
Mar 28, 2017
12,466
17,298
I'm sorry, Baka, I don't think my point was clear. Chapter 3 absolutely will ask me what decisions I've made thus far, you are correct, and I'll record them. Then, at some point, it will give me an option to once again choose a MMF route or not; I'd be surprised if the option is simply never offered based on previous choices, because thus far Mr.Dots has been pretty good at not assuming people might not have changed their minds. My point was that this hypothetical third option isn't necessarily going to be obvious in it's consequence, not without the walkthrough. My evidence for that opinion is that the previous options weren't obvious either, so I have no reason to assume the next one will be.


I disagree; as I said, I think the option will once again be offered, because people might have changed their minds, and based on some of the choices thus far, I don't think it's necessarily going to be obvious. It might be; it might come up immediately after Martin makes a move to kiss D, for example, or (based on the choices we've seen so far) it could honestly just be when he says she looks beautiful when they're all having dinner together.
Let me ask it simply; do you think accepting Martin's compliment of D in Chapter 1 was obviously going to lead to D and Martin having sex? If you didn't have the walkthrough, would you say a MMF route was an obvious consequence of accepting that compliment?
Accepting the compliment only open that route.It's not leading you directly to sex with Martin.There is a huge difference between them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Looper9
3.80 star(s) 335 Votes