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IMO part of the rushed feeling of DMD traces it's origin back to the Patreon Purge. Before DMD was removed it was supposed to have more updates, then add our update schedule and the Mr. Dots team may have had to cut a few corners.
But the Martin event did have it's groundwork laid in Chapter 1, maybe originally it was planned for D to get to know Martin better.
In any even D has had a tectonic shift in her approach to sex, from NO WAY! to OKAY!
Believe walkthrough even says that if you let Martin compliment her it will lead to more in future updates
 
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Don't know where you are getting that , sharing and even beastiality was proposed for this game from the very 1st episode and a lot of us have been supporting him and are expecting MrDots to deliver
Sharing was shown in points but beastiality wasn't there from the start. Tag only appeared around same time Chapter 2 started coming out
 
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That's how I see it. I don't know what was proposed and when, but the game is called "Dating my Daughter" and not "Sharing my Daughter" and the way the first two chapters progressed didn't suggest anything different. Even the Elena/D relationship has a different dynamic. Other than that, we had a lot of build up so the MC/D relationship get to the point it is now, while the sharing paths (exept for Elena's) feel way too rushed to me. Just to add some BBC and to make the people who kept asking for NTR happy with something close enough since they won't get what they want. I don't see it add up to the rest of the story so far. But like I said, that's just my personal opinion. I'll still play the paths, I like so far.
The NTR tag has finally been removed from game :)
 

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Sharing was shown in points but beastiality wasn't there from the start. Tag only appeared around same time Chapter 2 started coming out
Bestiality was on MrDots Patreon page when the game was released

Take a read through the 1st few pages on this thread, get informed and stop talking about stuff you have no idea on
 
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Have to say Im not too happy with the new update shoving Elena purely into the sexual attraction-only realm.
We have plenty of sharing routes that solely seem to run on that so pushing the one route that actually has a semblence of a developed relationship into it as well feels like a bad choice(and rather forced at this point).
Maybe its just setup for later character revelations/development but if the narrative seriously intends to go that way...yeah complete waste.
 

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Bestiality was on MrDots Patreon page when the game was released

Take a read through the 1st few pages on this thread, get informed and stop talking about stuff you have no idea on
I used to donate to Mr. Dots when this game came out and it was until talk of going to a pet store that a beastiality tag was placed on game. All that is said about it all is from a question someone asked and was answered "Introduction will happen soon"...Visit to Pet Store?????????
Maybe if YOU noticed...The tag isn't on the game anymore either so why still be shooting your mouth about it
 
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Maybe if YOU noticed...The tag isn't on the game anymore either so why still be shooting your mouth about it
Mate you got proven wrong- you need to realize the tags on this site do not reflect what MrDots put on his Patreon page when the game came out
Discussion about the subject at hand:
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Lots more discussion about it if you care to go back and read

After the announcement of CH 3 MrDots wrote he was going to finally introduce the "Pet Arc" you know what it means"

If he follows through with it is still up in the air
 
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Have to say Im not too happy with the new update shoving Elena purely into the sexual attraction-only realm.
We have plenty of sharing routes that solely seem to run on that so pushing the one route that actually has a semblence of a developed relationship into it as well feels like a bad choice(and rather forced at this point).
Maybe its just setup for later character revelations/development but if the narrative seriously intends to go that way...yeah complete waste.
that i agree with, but i do think its just setup this update and the next will have a share focus, then we will mostly likely get a poly focus after that and a return of elena jennifer and georgina, remember georgina wanted too stay a night with f and d probadly only on that route and if not georgina then most likely jennifer instead.
 
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I downloaded DMD V24 and unzipped it. When I load the end of Day 32, it just says You've reached the end of this version and can't go any further.
try from earlier save, that's not unusual in renpy games.
 

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that i agree with, but i do think its just setup this update and the next will have a share focus, then we will mostly likely get a poly focus after that and a return of elena jennifer and georgina, remember georgina wanted too stay a night with f and d probadly only on that route and if not georgina then most likely jennifer instead.
Possible but then its executed rather badly as its intentions are unclear.
The entire problem here is that the sudden change contradicts her prior actions and doesnt really give us any reason as to why.
In a narrative that so heavily relies on inner monologues I expect a bit more than a "*sigh*" at that point.
Normally I would give the benefit of the doubt and just ignore it till some later update gives clarification on the situation but with how .24 makes some rather jarring changes to the underlying game mechanics I cant help but feel that someone found the character motivations of Jennifer and Elena too closely tied and suddenly wanted to course correct there as well(and if that really is the case,Jennifer certainly would have been the better choice,if still not a good one).
 

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That's how I see it. I don't know what was proposed and when, but the game is called "Dating my Daughter" and not "Sharing my Daughter" and the way the first two chapters progressed didn't suggest anything different. Even the Elena/D relationship has a different dynamic. Other than that, we had a lot of build up so the MC/D relationship get to the point it is now, while the sharing paths (exept for Elena's) feel way too rushed to me. Just to add some BBC and to make the people who kept asking for NTR happy with something close enough since they won't get what they want. I don't see it add up to the rest of the story so far. But like I said, that's just my personal opinion. I'll still play the paths, I like so far.
I know the speed of the new sexual events seems fast, but it is not internally inconsistent with what was slowing down her previous development, which was a combination of emotional trust and with breaking a taboo. I would argue, outside of that, there isn’t any particular sexual act that she had an issue with doing.

Second, as most of us may remember, that moment you first have sex opens up a rush so that you want to try so many things right away... or at least that was my experience with my first gf.

Finally, and tongue in cheek, F still is Dating His Daughter, except they are now Double Dating.

Have to say Im not too happy with the new update shoving Elena purely into the sexual attraction-only realm.
We have plenty of sharing routes that solely seem to run on that so pushing the one route that actually has a semblence of a developed relationship into it as well feels like a bad choice(and rather forced at this point).
Maybe its just setup for later character revelations/development but if the narrative seriously intends to go that way...yeah complete waste.
Yeah. We’ve discussed this issue among the team. It is not the intention to preclude a “Love” relationship and, imo, that scene deserves a dialogue rewrite.
 
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Second, as most of us may remember, that moment you first have sex opens up a rush so that you want to try so many things right away... or at least that was my experience with my first gf.
Of course I wanted to try many things (everything I could think of actually) right away, but I wasn't able to do that, because it was her first time too and women don't have the same mentality with men. Things tend to work slower with them. And definitely none of those things was to share her with my buddies. There are exceptions of course, but D is portrayed as an innocent shy girl who fell madly in love with a guy and now is going cock hungry just after a couple of months (while they're still together) and wants to "try" different cocks. Anyway. You do you man. It doesn't really matter how I see it.
 
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Yeah. We’ve discussed this issue among the team. It is not the intention to preclude a “Love” relationship and, imo, that scene deserves a dialogue rewrite.
Jeff - is the writing team re-reading the whole of the previous character's dialog every month or so to keep the characters personalities consistent?
As per my quick review of 0.24 up thread I too found Elena's dialog jarring. Hope to see this addressed
 
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Yeah. We’ve discussed this issue among the team. It is not the intention to preclude a “Love” relationship and, imo, that scene deserves a dialogue rewrite.
Good to know that its at least discussed among the team.
Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Of course I wanted to try many things (everything I could think of actually) right away, but I wasn't able to do that, because it was her first time too and women don't have the same mentality with men. Things tend to work slower with them. And definitely none of those things was to share her with my buddies. There are exceptions of course, but D is portrayed as an innocent shy girl who fell madly in love with a guy and now is going cock hungry just after a couple of months (while they're still together) and wants to "try" different cocks. Anyway. You do you man. It doesn't really matter how I see it.
Honestly, the MC is painted as having a member that is way more than exceptional and she loves him and trusts him completely. They currently have sex so often that her patch has to be practically raw hamburger down there. It doesn't really add up that she is fantasizing about anyone else tbqh. Previously the only time she has been exposed to and tries different things (at least that I can remember) is when others push that on her (to further their own interests) as acceptable and rationalize it effectively and that should be the way it always is or you aren't corrupting her, which is the core principle of the game. Whatever choices they make about other character arcs they should always maintain the D as being lead to these outcomes imho.
 
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Jeff - is the writing team re-reading the whole of the previous character's dialog every month or so to keep the characters personalities consistent?
As per my quick review of 0.24 up thread I too found Elena's dialog jarring. Hope to see this addressed
Probably every third release has a reworked dialogue. I don’t see it as needing to reread the prior dialogue as it is obvious. But the Elena scene is one to get this. Way back we entirely re-write a Georgina scene.
 

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Of course I wanted to try many things (everything I could think of actually) right away, but I wasn't able to do that, because it was her first time too and women don't have the same mentality with men. Things tend to work slower with them. And definitely none of those things was to share her with my buddies. There are exceptions of course, but D is portrayed as an innocent shy girl who fell madly in love with a guy and now is going cock hungry just after a couple of months (while they're still together) and wants to "try" different cocks. Anyway. You do you man. It doesn't really matter how I see it.
Here are, imo, the brass tacks - D is going through a whole series of successes since she left her mother. Getting her freedom and leaving her mother; first sex; moving to arguably an awesome new home and town on the seashore.

When you have multiple successes, your brain gets all kinds of endorphins, dopamine and serotonin.

I don’t disagree with you that women are less likely that men to work slower with sex, or at least that is what society thinks. But society also thinks that an “overly protected child” let loose in the world tends to go overboard. Society also thinks that people meeting sudden fame and fortune also go overboard. And, imo, there is an argument that you can go overboard with your first love, especially if they continue to meet or exceed your romantic expectations.

Perhaps the lead in to this section of the VN could be better - like have that “touchstone” character for D to check or question her behavior. Maybe a rework here or there of the dialogue.

Btw, the first person on this upward arc that even questioned her is that new model.
 
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Here are, imo, the brass tacks - D is going through a whole series of successes since she left her mother. Getting her freedom and leaving her mother; first sex; moving to arguably an awesome new home and town on the seashore.

When you have multiple successes, your brain gets all kinds of endorphins, dopamine and serotonin.

I don’t disagree with you that women are less likely that men to work slower with sex, or at least that is what society thinks. But society also thinks that an “overly protected child” let loose in the world tends to go overboard. Society also thinks that people meeting sudden fame and fortune also go overboard. And, imo, there is an argument that you can go overboard with your first love, especially if they continue to meet or exceed your romantic expectations.

Perhaps the lead in to this section of the VN could be better - like have that “touchstone” character for D to check or question her behavior. Maybe a rework here or there of the dialogue.

Btw, the first person on this upward arc that even questioned her is that new model.
Look man, I get what you're trying to say, but that's not what I get from her behavior in the previous chapters. For me the way she fought to be with her "daddy", how she can't get enough of him, the fact that he is her very first love (with their relationship being in a very early stage) and how she's willing to do anything to please him, can't lead to her wanting to fuck other men. Plain and simple. To let loose doesn't mean to have the compulsion to fuck anyone with a pulse, just because he is funny or black. Unless you want to turn her into a slut for "reasons" which is a completely different story. Like I said, that's just my opinion, I appreciate the feedback, but you don't have to try and convince me otherwise. I'll still follow the game, avoiding the paths that don't make sense for me, but after that last update it will be very difficult for me to support any of MrDots current or future endeavours. I really appreciate the effort that's been put in this game and Melody, but I can't support someone who has the main girl passed around like nothing. It's just not my thing. I'm sure it make sense for the writters, but I just don't see it. I don't know. I might be getting too old or something.
 

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Look man, I get what you're trying to say, but that's not what I get from her behavior in the previous chapters. For me the way she fought to be with her "daddy", how she can't get enough of him, the fact that he is her very first love (with their relationship being in a very early stage) and how she's willing to do anything to please him, can't lead to her wanting to fuck other men. Plain and simple. To let loose doesn't mean to have the compulsion to fuck anyone with a pulse, just because he is funny or black. Unless you want to turn her into a slut for "reasons" which is a completely different story. Like I said, that's just my opinion, I appreciate the feedback, but you don't have to try and convince me otherwise. I'll still follow the game, avoiding the paths that don't make sense for me, but after that last update it will be very difficult for me to support any of MrDots current or future endeavours. I really appreciate the effort that's been put in this game and Melody, but I can't support someone who has the main girl passed around like nothing. It's just not my thing. I'm sure it make sense for the writters, but I just don't see it. I don't know. I might be getting too old or something.
The first love part being the crucial here and she is pretty much besotted with the MC and I'd say the MC with her they are exploring each other and their desires, and I get that the sharing part was always meant to be a part of the game and with Martin reappearing soon I kind of think it's just a bit sudden and out of the blue.
 

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I think eddie987 has a point there but if you do multiple paths daddy isn`t very faithfull to his beloved daughter. I mean if you follow that path it should be possible for the daughter to explore other options aswell. What i find disturbing is that it comes out of the blue, i think that it would be more convincing if she were to find out that the love of her life is cheating on her.
 
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