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Hyperserver

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It literally happened in game on day 20- go look for yourself
It's how F managed to get D out of the country
At this time D was already together with MC - so this can't be ntr anymore then
 

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At this time D was already together with MC - so this can't be ntr anymore then
And why was she with F?
Frank wasn't returning her calls or emailing her in ch1 because her mum was stealing her boyfriend at that very time
If Frank was calling and paying D attention the whole story would't have happened thus the DmD storyline started because D was being ntr'd by her own mom lol
 

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And why was she with F?
Frank wasn't returning her calls or emailing her in ch1 because her mum was stealing her boyfriend at that very time
If Frank was calling and paying D attention the whole story would't have happened thus the DmD storyline started because D was being ntr'd by her own mom lol
you said the right: DMD story started because F ntr'd D BEFORE she met MC.
But why to argue? YOU are MC, and MC was never ntr'd and will never be. Nobody cares about others, and also nobody cares what happened before.
No reason to draw an endless discussion - even less with you.
 

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you said the right: DMD story started because F ntr'd D BEFORE she met MC.
Nope - it was happening when D was on holidays getting to know F- you know the 1st few days of this game
Nothing to indicate D's mum was fucking Frank until D left the country and met F
Yes- MC will not be a victim of ntr but to say there is no ntr in dmd is false by your own definition #34,358
 
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no - there is NOT NTR!
The difference between NTR and cheating, is that cheating is WITHOUT knowledge, whilst NTR is WITH knowledge about what's going on. Cheating will turn into NTR once the other one discovers. (NTR always involves the knowledge about - like seeing wanted or unwanted, or being told about)
Hi Hyperserver, we're probably going to disagree here:



TLDR: NTR isn't just cuckolding, it can also refer to cheating in general.

I realize what fine line MrDots and team have decided to take here for the sake of fans, but in essence I think that comes down to something outside of NTR's allowance of meanings and instead refers to D specifically NOT being able to sleep with other males unless MC agrees.

Which is why I rage against the machine! It's like tilting at windmills, but with more cursing.
 

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Cucks should love the martin path is all I am saying with how the dev is doing that..

Also I don't think it should be called NTR if player CHOOSES to do that. So if D comes and say.. Hey babe can I go ride that dick. And you say fuck yeah... Don't get mad when you see that scene..
 

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Hi Hyperserver, we're probably going to disagree here:



TLDR: NTR isn't just cuckolding, it can also refer to cheating in general.

I realize what fine line MrDots and team have decided to take here for the sake of fans, but in essence I think that comes down to something outside of NTR's allowance of meanings and instead refers to D specifically NOT being able to sleep with other males unless MC agrees.

Which is why I rage against the machine! It's like tilting at windmills, but with more cursing.
The official NTR definition for the MDots universe is NTR requires a stealing away of someone. Mostly because it is in the Japanese word.:

Q: **__What is your definition of NTR?__**
```A: From Jeff Steel, the current attorney in the developing group, being told that they are not going to overpromise on these restrictions.
Netorare (寝取られ, most commonly abbreviated as NTR) comes from Notora. Notora is a Japanese term that literally translates to "taken away by sleeping with.”
Netorare is therefore being defined as: (1) the MC having a love/dating interest and (2) having another person steal that love/dating interest away via sex, sexual prowess, etc.
Thus defined, NTR would NOT include when the MC meets up with a love/dating interest that ALREADY has a different love/dating interest and the MC eventually steals her away. In fact, this would be Netori.
NTR also does not include situations of sharing, swapping, taking a break, having a hall pass, or having a threesome. NTR also does not include situation where the MC chooses not to progress with a love/dating interest and that person moves on in with life with another partner.```

There is our official line. We did have NTR when Brad stoke Rachel. I guess we also have Netori when F stole D from Frank. Maybe there is NTR with Frank vs D, but I see it as Frank lost interest in D by being strung along.

F has never NTRd D as cheating but not getting taken away is not NTR under our rules.
 

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Cucks should love the martin path is all I am saying with how the dev is doing that..

Also I don't think it should be called NTR if player CHOOSES to do that. So if D comes and say.. Hey babe can I go ride that dick. And you say fuck yeah... Don't get mad when you see that scene..
Swinging, open marriage, threesomes does not a cuck make. In evolutionary terms that requires a pregnancy. In cultural terms, that requires an Alph and Beta male relationship. I know the text in dreams has been joking at that, but in the actual event with Martin or Ryan, F will still be the Alpha for F/D.

There are plenty (well at least a vocal few) who disagree, but the majority of the fans on Discore seem to agree after some polling.
 

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While it is arguable that side NTR may have occurred, there will be no main character (or storyline) NTR. When D has sex F will both be aware of the impending new wang tapping his daughter and will have to have given at least tacit approval.

What will be an issue is how E will react. After letting D quasi-flirt with the guy outside the restaurant he confessed to being both a bit upset and turned on. I can see this as a fail safe to end D sharing. If you opt to let F agree tp let D have sex with another person there may be an after choice. D and F amy discuss the event (they do everything else, it's like incest parliament) the result may be an option "Yes do this again" or "No it was fun but this was a one time thing".
 
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And it's an interesting reference you offered, because D has been proactively initiating more frequently, it seems.

So, while I agree with your general prediction of how MC might first offer his agreement, my thought is that a specific situation with Martin - repeating the shared bathroom scene, for example - could spike her already heightened interest . . . and that's the same type of situation where she could give in to the moment, instead of holding back enough to wait for MC's approval. If MrDots agreed, which I realize is unlikely but would make this part of the story far more interesting in its dynamics going towards Chapter 4, IMHO.
D making out with Martin prior to discussing full on sex with F could actually become vehicle for the discussion to take place. D realizes this is more than a fleeting crush and wants more from Martin (perhaps while F and Elena watch as they have sex).
I don't see that happening but it would add a new dimension to the VN and demonstrate D's growing self-confidence and independent nature.
 
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While it is arguable that side NTR may have occurred, there will be no main character (or storyline) NTR. When D has sex F will both be aware of the impending new wang tapping his daughter and will have to have given at least tacit approval.

What will be an issue is how E will react. After letting D quasi-flirt with the guy outside the restaurant he confessed to being both a bit upset and turned on. I can see this as a fail safe to end D sharing. If you opt to let F agree tp let D have sex with another person there may be an after choice. D and F amy discuss the event (they do everything else, it's like incest parliament) the result may be an option "Yes do this again" or "No it was fun but this was a one time thing".
My new favorite term: “wang tapping.”
 
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