RustyV

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IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.
 

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"I am purposefully skipping content. Why is there so little content?"

There is nothing wrong with skipping content you don't want to see but moaning when you actively skip content that there isn't much content is silly.

Also, I think people are freaking out a bit too much about the Martin/Ryan issue. In the context of the story, both characters are actually about to leave. Ryan was offered his dream job which is away from Seaside so is going to be leaving soon after the modelling contest. Martin is also planning on returning home shortly after the competition as well. He is on vacation and only stuck around to help D with the contest. Martin could return but Ryan is probably leaving for good.
 
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"I am purposefully skipping content. Why is there so little content?"

There is nothing wrong with skipping content you don't want to see but moaning when you actively skip content that there isn't much content is silly.

Also, I think people are freaking out a bit too much about the Martin/Ryan issue. In the context of the story, both characters are actually about to leave. Ryan was offered his dream job which is away from Seaside so is going to be leaving soon after the modelling contest. Martin is also planning on returning home shortly after the competition as well. He is on vacation and only stuck around to help D with the contest. Martin could return but Ryan is probably leaving for good.
Yeah, the sharing just makes some people really sensitive. The fact that they can skip the content doesn't mean that the Dev team should then double the content for those who are skipping a part of the game. I play two different paths just to try and get all of the content. LOL
 

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Beginning of Chapter4 D takes part in a medical experiment and they clone her so now there are 2 Ds.
One D for the D only path and on for the D sharing path.
Now no one can bitch because your D only path D is not the D sharing path D.
Maybe a third D for an NTR D.
 

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Beginning of Chapter4 D takes part in a medical experiment and they clone her so now there are 2 Ds.
One D for the D only path and on for the D sharing path.
Now no one can bitch because your D only path D is not the D sharing path D.
Maybe a third D for an NTR D.
Or just make enough D for everyone, as I understand from this topic everyone wants their own path for D.
Still, I repeat my life motto "Sharing makes everything better" :)))))
 

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Beginning of Chapter4 D takes part in a medical experiment and they clone her so now there are 2 Ds.
One D for the D only path and on for the D sharing path.
Now no one can bitch because your D only path D is not the D sharing path D.
Maybe a third D for an NTR D.
The 1st playthough,
I want to corrupt D completely, share her, whore her out to anyone except...Lucas. Except he look at his brother's Richard, photos & vids of D, in jail!
After that, I would play the vanilla version.
 
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IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.
Its four years in. Why bother adding it in at all list far into a games development besides pissing off those who have been on board with the story for this long? Nobody has supported the game for this whole time with the sole mind of tossing her around like a hot potato from one dick onto another and whilst there has been oodles of non-F/D only content its never been D with other guys. He should have just done this with another game for ended DMD and started DMD 2 where its clearly and strongly threaded into the narrative from day one vs just becoming a thing 4 chapters into the existing game and hes openly confessed struggling with the balance. I don't care if shes shared or not and im not playing a F/D only route personally - my issue is the implementation. I even said he should have done what he did with Melody - add in all the cuck stuff as there is still demand for it however little but as extra scenes. Hell i'd probably watch a bukkake D scene if it was there in an extras gallery but I don't want it randomly shoe horned into the story in the final chapter just because.

I dont buy this BS its been planned all along guff though - screw what tags were there four years ago, its no secret Bestiality was there, plans changed years ago. If he wanted this so bad it'd have been a thing now as its sure as hell not stopped him getting in the way of giving F all these other girls to bang or all the oodles of lesbian content - his priorities have been clear and obvious for a long time now. This is late game pandering to chase a quick buck (as game is literally ending final chapter next year having already extended it, further proof that plans of his have changed from original ones) as for all there is a vocal minority of F/D only players id argue the number of people wanting cuck content is equally as small and equally as annoying with how vocal and repetive they are on the matter.
 

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I still dont know why a lot of players only want a d/f path with only vanilla content. Somes of theme try to... blackmail the team? If you don't choose my point of view, i stop pay for this game?

Come on, you are not buying a product. Remember, it's a game, with a lot of CHOICE.

So it disturb you if some players can choose others paths?

You don't respect the team, you don't respect all player community, you only think about yourself.

why???
 

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IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.
Personally, I want to the sharing paths (and perhaps even more harder paths) are available for selection in the game. But I want this on one condition - that these choices/refusals of paths (and the decisions of the characters on these paths) will be motivated on the background of the unity of the F/D pair and dictated (or refused) thanks to the shades of personal motivations (include deviations) F or D or F / D of both as individuals (rather than just pressing a toggle button). Not like "it just has to be" anyway even if these paths completely contradict the nature of F / D personalities, or make them flat.

This allows you to preserve the integrity of the narrative, the integrity of the characters' images as they are, as individuals (regardless of the chosen path). This is what the F/D path advocates want. They want F and D to stay on their own and not turn into an inconsistent mosaic of sharp instant impulses, and flat sex dolls.

And finally, even on the clean path of F/D, this couple has so many plans and obstacles that I disagree that even on this path, the game should end in chapter 3. Rather, on the contrary, if personalities F and D were to make it flatter only in order to massively represent the whole bunch of deviations, then only such a model will very soon make you lose interest in the game (when the characters are flat and all the animations are viewed, you simply delete the game and look for something that contains interesting characters, and not only list of the modern Kama Sutra).

Also IMO of course.
 
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IMO some of the D only players seem to be complaining about content or the that the VN has become stale and repetitive.
No kidding. Your choices are limiting character and story development and then you complain the character and story is limited.
It's analogise to going to an amusement park with only one ride and then complaining that there is only one ride.

It seems a number of D only players think DMD should have ended at Chapter 2 or end with Chapter 3. And they are correct, on the D only route, however in the D sharing route the game still has a lot of drama and events to offer.
The story I signed up for was not sharing Dee with other men which was the focus of the story for a long time. I'm fine with enjoying other rides, I just don't want Dee to be the ride that others are enjoying.
 

Lex Liber

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Making D accessible to everyone and everything is the same as making all characters be D - D loves D, D \ D fuck D + D, DDDD..0000 and so on. It is an "everything and nothing" strategy that simply leads to a loss of individuality and a blurring of the plot and the game to zero.
 

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Making D accessible to everyone and everything
You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game from reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC has to make will never be yours.
 
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You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game form reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC makes will never be yours.
Very true, so my point in making this randomly a thing four years into the games development is absolute bullshit based on the years of not my writing or yours but Mr Dots presentation of the story. Im basing my concerns from the years of playing HIS story - as such you gotta look at what you said yourself.

Look its the devs prerogative to shit the bed shoe horning a sharing storyline in the very last chapter to the longest running adult VN out there whether that burns a lot of good will to pander to a minority last minute or not. If there was a sharing path going as long as say the F has been fucking half these other girls I don't think you would have been seeing the resistance your seeing, in fact I would have stood besides you shouting the naysayers down besides you. That's NOT whats happened though based on HIS story, not by a long shot and whilst the father has been shown to be into tapping anything with a pulse practically since the earliest of stages of the story this hasn't been the case with the D whom not only has become so besotted with said Father than she was readily giving up everything to be with him, move away and in with him, readily and willingly losing her V to him and now planning to marry him.

If she had a wandering eye from early stages of the story then a relationship with say Martin would not have felt forced but rather organic and if she was checking out say horse dong way back on her visit to the farm id be like 'ah, shes into beastiality' but this is not whats been presented in HIS story nor have we seen any sentimentality from the offset of F wanting to share D, in fact he was over possessive of her with other guys who wanted to get close and personal to her. The closest early example of this being a thing id argue is actually tangible (her getting a compliment from Martin is hardly a sign of please fuck my D buddy and if anything it being a choice shows its something the MC second thinks about vs just overlooking it by canon default as well, this after all was his clearly defined nature like I said) was the peeper but then it was also a choice and involved zero contact or sharing with said peeper but instead voyeurism which is NOT sharing or cuckolding. Still I guess hes a year to completely unravel and 180 degree defined characters even more and maybe we get to fuck her M too as after all that would make zero sense but people want to and apparently that's all it takes in HIS story.

Well anyway im about done with this discussion. Im certainly done with anyone not agreeing with others demanded kinks being called out as whiners ignoring most of the well thought out and presented arguments most of us have been making. Ive written paragraph after paragraph on the matter giving example after example of ingame stuff which contradicts this route not being anything but forced, poorly implemented and just shilling for the coin. Im finding myself repeating myself at this point whilst most others are not making many points at all regarding the game and just what they want in it. Still at least weve most case been civil about it despite heated points - we are all fans of the game after all. Nothing wrong with sharing D... with each other on the forums that is lol
 

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You are already sharing her with a few thousand other blokes if you aren't willing to separate a game from reality.
Remember you are playing a character that the dev has created- you can't self insert in the role unless you are the one writing it- the choices the MC has to make will never be yours.
This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read. The whole point is to be a player and insert yourself into the role of MC; that's why you get to name MC, that's why it's told POV.
 

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Some people seem to be unaware of character progression. Imagine D as a dam. Before the game starts she is a dam, standing strong. Her mother has sheltered her so much that she is full of self doubt and her emotions are buried deep down. In Chapter 1, the dam starts to fracture. Meeting F she finds someone who is actually encouraging her to do new things. In Chapter 2 a hole has appeared in the dam. After she experiences her first orgasm, she starts doing more sexual stuff and starts to open up to new possibilities. Chapter 3 the dam has burst. She has started exploring sex and what options are available thanks to watching porn more.

For some reason people seem to think the sharing paths lead her on the way to being an insatiable sex fiend who wants to star in a re-enactment of Debbie Does Dallas or something. D Does Seaside? It just shows that most are unaware of the story on sharing paths. D is only interested in sharing as long as F is involved. They both agreed that anything they do with others is just sex and will not interfere with their love and relationship. F did not give her free reign to go out and have sex and neither does she want to. If any character is on the "insatiable sex fiend" path it is Elena.
 
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