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Reusing old scenes saves rendering time, so I can see it happening.
And this seems to be F's favorite place to have sex on the beach. :giggle:
Yeah, efficiency has long been a MrDots quality. I forgive their shortcuts in light of reliable, monthly outputs.
 

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This exactly and I said as much a page or two back. It has to let D experience her own life or end. She's basically just a 12yo fuckdoll for MC/Father. She has no self-reliance or thoughts of her own. She absolutely has no actions of her own. It's just bad storytelling, IMO. It's gotta change or the story has to end if we want to remember it fondly. A bad end-game can ruin the previous good work in a story and this is on the cusp of that happening if it continues with the status quo.
Make your own game, or just drop it. Here, your opinion means nothing.
 
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Someone already made a spin-off game called Sugardaddies or something like that where you play primarily as D and you can make her as "adventurous" and "sexually developed" as you want. There's even a dog. Go enjoy that and please leave this game behind you if it doesn't make you happy.

For others, there are plenty of potential adventures for F, D and crew that don't involve D getting dicked down by half the town.
 
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That and it's boring at this point. They need to finish up the D and Father part of the story and have it there or (what I'd propose) let D actually grow up and expand her character. They should do both, tbh. Let it end with those two alone and happy OR give the option for others to continue in a situation where D actually experiences her life without her father and/or with him around but her breaking free a bit.

This next update sounds like it's going to be more of D and Father, more of what we've seen for 3 years now. It's boring and I skip right past that because it's been done to death already.
I would prefer turning D into a adventurous little slut, with F's approval of course, sometimes joining in watching, or in my little fantasy game, filming D antics as she becomes the biggest F95 ZONE star ever.
 
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Someone already made a spin-off game called Sugardaddies or something like that where you play primarily as D and you can make her as "adventurous" and "sexually developed" as you want. There's even a dog. Go enjoy that and please leave this game behind you if it doesn't make you happy.

For others, there are plenty of potential adventures for F, D and crew that don't involve D getting dicked down by half the town.
People can play what they want and comment on what they desire, so long as they're not trolling or otherwise breaking the General Rules. And nobody is trolling on this topic at the moment as far as I can see. Except maybe you by telling people to STFU :)

You also seem to have glossed over the fact that the current subject was brought up about D not being equal to the MC in terms of choices she can make in the game - it just so happens that impacts her sexual partner choices, but it actually relates to her being under his general umbrella of influence/control while HE continues to bang anyone he wants and then manipulate D to accept partners of his choosing when he's ready for such.

Even if she's willing to go along with his well-timed proposals (of course she is), there's a significant amount of manipulation going on here and it doesn't balance out for what is being offered as a happy couple on the surface. There's a larger point here beyond concern that she sleeps with other people of her choice.
 

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Yeah, efficiency has long been a MrDots quality. I forgive their shortcuts in light of reliable, monthly outputs.
Last 2 updates have been sub-par and behind schedule. I hope they pull off a great ending to Ch3 but its dissapointing to see even more reused scenes. Could have had F and G playing around in D's hotel room or with G & O for something different.
 
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Last 2 updates have been sub-par and behind schedule. I hope they pull off a great ending to Ch3 but its dissapointing to see even more reused scenes. Could have had F and G playing around in D's hotel room or with G & O for something different.
I guess my point is that "behind schedule" for MrDots is still far more reliable and fast than for most Dev teams out there. Plus, we know it's because they have a new, rather sprawling game in parallel that's still growing and they are likely eating into DMD's timing because of it - again, I have forgiveness for this because context matters.

Quality is certainly a subjective determination, so I have no argument there.
 

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I guess my point is that "behind schedule" for MrDots is still far more reliable and fast than for most Dev teams out there. Plus, we know it's because they have a new, rather sprawling game in parallel that's still growing and they are likely eating into DMD's timing because of it - again, I have forgiveness for this because context matters.

Quality is certainly a subjective determination, so I have no argument there.
True, I have always said that if they needed to take more time to provide better quality that they should do so. From the latest preview it seems that they are taking more time and still reusing scenes instead of building on what was. Disappointing.
 

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Even if she's willing to go along with his well-timed proposals (of course she is), there's a significant amount of manipulation going on here and it doesn't balance out for what is being offered as a happy couple on the surface. There's a larger point here beyond concern that she sleeps with other people of her choice.
Agreed.
IMO D should get to sometimes decide for herself with whom she has sex.
F has pretty much been directing D to having other sexual partners and has indicated he isn't mad when she notices other people and has even agreed to D having a sexual liaison with Ryan. Basically they have an open relationship.
So if D desires to have sex with another person and let's F know she is both acting as a mature partner in their relationship and is being more honest than F has been. D wouldn't be cheating or sneaking around behind his back, she loves and respects F too much to do that to him. She is actually the better person.
 

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a lot of chapters I find it dull. for me a erotic game is about pushing the boundaries, to be surprised, to focus on the eroticism and emotions of the characters. sure, not all erotic games need to be like that, but a visual novel is for me that, a visual erotic novel with options to have different routes. so its not a game or a simulation but a multi choice novel.

I cant feel the emotional closeness between F&D, its superficial, where a lot of times the Mc is egoistic that from time to time act like he need to be mature and understanding, but later show his true colors when he act like a young boy or detached.
D is naive and sometimes stupid, and not always I find it attractive that she is like a child but annoying when shes no reacting like a 18 years old should.

in my mind, a father that gets close to his daughter like that (I try to not moralize here) would not want to be with another woman, and it would make more sense that he focus on her "sexual training", I mean, theres a lot a couple can do.
toys, bdsm, voyeurism, private photoshots/video, fisting, erotic massage, g-spot, facials and deepthroat and so on. also, we have the "mind and emotions", to talk dirty, share fantasies, push each other with suggestions, well, a lot can be done that dont need to introduce the same boring sex scene with another pixel-model.
 
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You don't criticize a high fantasy novel because it has swords and scorcery. Anyone expecting a realistic, equal relationship where D gets to make her own choices is barking up the wrong tree. That's not what this game is or ever has been. This is a sterotypical male fantasy porn story, where the mc gets everything he wants with no consequences. That's the entire reason it exists, so that mc can have his cake and eat her friend's pie too.

Mc fucks his long lost daughter, her friends (except Jennifer! WHY? :cry:), his friends, random strangers, all within a few weeks of their reunion, and they're all okay with it, by design. It's completely saccharine, empty calories, junk food. Parental Love and WMV are very much in the same vein.

For the record I think there is room for sharing in this story, I just don't think it will ever be portrayed as anything other than the fulfillment of mc's wishes. Because that's really all DMD is, wish fulfillment power fantasy.

There are other games that set the goal of telling a compelling story and portraying realistic characters, even his other game Melody leans more in that direction, but DMD aint it. So if people don't like it because of those choices, totally fair. But the game should be judged based on what it hopes to accomplish. I think in that regard it mostly achieves its goals.
 

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Agreed.
IMO D should get to sometimes decide for herself with whom she has sex.
F has pretty much been directing D to having other sexual partners and has indicated he isn't mad when she notices other people and has even agreed to D having a sexual liaison with Ryan. Basically they have an open relationship.
So if D desires to have sex with another person and let's F know she is both acting as a mature partner in their relationship and is being more honest than F has been. D wouldn't be cheating or sneaking around behind his back, she loves and respects F too much to do that to him. She is actually the better person.
D has already fooled around with Elena (and, perhaps reaching a bit, Olivia) behind F's back and only came clean once she had a nightmare about marrying Elena instead of F. Sure, F ends up being cool with it, but it's not as if she's never been sneaky.
 
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