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Dolphin3000

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No serious developer can develop a game just for the sake of development. He would lose reputation if his name was connected to a crappy game and it doesn't matter that he was forced to do so. Marketing is really important
He wouldn't be 'developing a game just for the sake of development'. The game on Patreon page would be there only to keep his funds coming while he develops the real game he always had in mind: DMD. I guess all his followers would understand that. They would be pleased that what meant a lot to them (DMD) was not turned into priority-2, or side work. I guess it means no reputation loss (His original deal was to deliver DMD). Once he finishes the game everyone wants to see finished (DMD) he can consider work seriously on the Patreon page game, or just scrap it and start a brand new game. From my point of view it wouldn't impact Mr.Dots credibility in a negative way, much on the contrary.
 

greyelf

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... and simply process all payments with cryptocurrencies through bitpay or simply by creating smart contracts per individual.
Relying on non-common transaction types or currencies won't work because the majority of people either: don't use them; or don't trust them (yet?).

Whatever form transactions take they need to be simple to use for the everyday person and they need to securely protect that person's financial details from any miss-use by either the company running the web-service or the subscribers of said web-service.
 

Madeddy

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Holy f**king sh*t! :mad:

I think so for me lets look there should be a new dmd version out by now... and I find THIS! I did have a feel back in last year, as this wannabe Gaddafis on patreon did begin with this "lets throw shit at people because we can" game. Next should then be SummertimeSaga. Sorry people if i scare you, but its logical if you think on it.

Hell and back. Can not some folks found some "free" creator supporting platform on some liberal island state? :pensive: I wonder if the penguins give domains out? They should as a plus also not care for human fanaticism prude anti fantasy zealots and so on.

One possible solace: This pat(r|hetic)on site will kill them self off the market. I hope.
 

thanatos69

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He wouldn't be 'developing a game just for the sake of development'. The game on Patreon page would be there only to keep his funds coming while he develops the real game he always had in mind: DMD. I guess all his followers would understand that. They would be pleased that what meant a lot to them (DMD) was not turned into priority-2, or side work. I guess it means no reputation loss (His original deal was to deliver DMD). Once he finishes the game everyone wants to see finished (DMD) he can consider work seriously on the Patreon page game, or just scrap it and start a brand new game. From my point of view it wouldn't impact Mr.Dots credibility in a negative way, much on the contrary.
There's a problem with your logic: New patrons. Soon, he'll start gaining patrons who are not interested in incest games and once the incest fans leave, then the new audience will demand more and more content for the new game. He'll have no choice but to make the new game a priority.
 

greyelf

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The game on Patreon page would be there only to keep his funds coming while he develops the real game he always had in mind .... Once he finishes the game everyone wants to see finished (DMD) he can consider work seriously on the Patreon page game, or just scrap it and start a brand new game.
Just how dumb do you think Patreon is?
If they don't see progress on the 'Patreon' game but notice progress on DMD game instead they could just suspend his Patreon account again, stating that they believe he is trying to circumvent his agreement with them.
 

greyelf

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guise guise he should just make them step relatives guise problem solved XD
That wont work because Patreon includes most legal family associations (both blood based and non-blood based) in their incest restriction. eg. you can't use 'step' or 'in-law' to bypass the restriction.

People just need to accept that creators that want to include any restricted content are no-longer allowed to use Patreon as a source of funding.
 

wrx21

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Just how dumb do you think Patreon is?
If they don't see progress on the 'Patreon' game but notice progress on DMD game instead they could just suspend his Patreon account again, stating that they believe he is trying to circumvent his agreement with them.
that's exactly what i'm expecting to happen and it's totally idiotic,it should be none of their business what is he doing outside of patreon based stuff,the money he gets comes from his supporters,not from patreon itself
as i said,with that logic they could suspend his page if he says that he will buy diesel instead of hybrid...
 

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That wont work because Patreon includes most legal family associations (both blood based and non-blood based) in their incest restriction. eg. you can't use 'step' or 'in-law' to bypass the restriction.
Yeah I know, I was just kidding. Last two days it seems like every tenth post is someone rushing in breathlessly with this GENIUS IDEA that will fix everything. Just having some fun. :eek:penedeyewink:
 
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Dolphin3000

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that's exactly what i'm expecting to happen and it's totally idiotic,it should be none of their business what is he doing outside of patreon based stuff,the money he gets comes from his supporters,not from patreon itself
as i said,with that logic they could suspend his page if he says that he will buy diesel instead of hybrid...
Exactly. It is a kind of a dictatorship: "You cannot wear black and use our pages!" whatever you do outside Patreon is none of their business, but since they can terminate your account there they will do as if it was their business.
 

Dolphin3000

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I read this on ( )

"Arthur Kelly
…but wait to see if MrD verifies this a legit. I donated 5 bucks to see if it was real and it went thru. What say you MrD? Can we use this to keep you fed?"

I hope this works!
 
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greyelf

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it should be none of their business what is he doing outside of patreon based stuff
It does when he is using Patreon's payment collection service to collect money and when he has made an individual agreement to not use the funding received via that service to create things that contain restricted content. Contract law 101: If you want to use a service then you have to abide by the agreements you have made with the provider.

the money he gets comes from his supporters,not from Patreon itself
I believe you'll find that Patreon collects the monies owed by the subscribers, and then forward that money (excluding the relevant fees & charges) on to the Account holder.
 
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L7Bear

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The same question is asked and answered on average every 2-3 pages. learning to use the search function is always a good way of learning.
Did anyone at least bother to answer his question? Or are you guys arguing over the merits of answering his question?
I went through the recent pages of this thread and see one post saying that the update had been delayed to "mid-february" and a ton of posts about updates and delays and anything else he might have searched on which all were about patreon rules and whether DMD might have been canceled.
The really relevant bit of information was this link to MrDots' site (hopefully not scam) saying the delay to "mid-february" which isn't in a post talking about the delay at all, but about funding.
 

Blitqz

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I think most of the people that have supported him and DMD will follow him where ever he decides to land his development.

I think that if they've stayed thru the year+ long journey to be at the point of a boobjob, they'll continuously support the game. They've invested in the game and are finally beginning to get the payoff

But I do think if he decides to go with a new project and essentially asking people to start over, he's going to lose q lot of customers.

One possible caveat would be using D as the main character in the next story and Rachel found F and D were doing stuff, so she killed him.

Thus, new story, Rachel in jail, and D and E go looking for love, sex, and survival.
 
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89tasker

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Just how dumb do you think Patreon is?
If they don't see progress on the 'Patreon' game but notice progress on DMD game instead they could just suspend his Patreon account again, stating that they believe he is trying to circumvent his agreement with them.
People are now assuming that Patreon is targeting developers for destruction like law enforcement.

The site police is going to do home inspections, and internet searches to make sure DMD can not be found anywhere! They're also going to monitor the new game development to make sure that it is not just a front. MrDots will not be allowed to launder DMD money off their site!

All pledges must legitimately be for the new game and not some unmentioned project in the shadows. For the good of humanity!
 

gestved

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Nothing in the version posted here. People on Patreon get the incest censored.
not so sure about that, in the version posted here we get to choose how D and F are related, if they are friends, daughter and dad, etc, it forces the characters to always refer to one another as such, they can't use synonyms or other words, only the ones selected. This limits a lot the writing in the game, and I'm glad this won't be a thing anymore
 
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BeLiaLx85

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Hi Max (what a nice name ... maybe you should try "Big Brother", even if it's dead by now).

Situation: Dating my Daughter is a game planned in 3 parts.
Part 1 (aka chapter 1, ch1) is finished with version 0.14.
Part 2(aka chapter 2, ch2) is ongoing. At the moment the current versions is 0.16

Patreon banned the game, because it violates their new terms of use (TOU) (because DmD contains incest and maybe other unwanted content).
The links in the 1st post of this thread should be uncensored.
@All please correct me if I'm wrong here.
DO NOT copy ch1 and ch1 in the same folder. (technical seen) They are different games!

For the moment MrDots (the creator) is allowed to keep his Patreon account - but he has to stop every mention of DmD on Patreon and has to work on another game that satisfies the TOU of Patreon.
So he can gets funding from via Patreon, but officially one can only support him for his work on his new project. DmD will be continued without connections to Patreon.


I think Alcesto is wrong in this point!
MrDots overcame similar (but less serious) problems with Patreon before. And he didn't let us down in the past. Why mistrust him when we experienced a better behaviour?
Hi Max (what a nice name ... maybe you should try "Big Brother", even if it's dead by now).

Situation: Dating my Daughter is a game planned in 3 parts.
Part 1 (aka chapter 1, ch1) is finished with version 0.14.
Part 2(aka chapter 2, ch2) is ongoing. At the moment the current versions is 0.16

Patreon banned the game, because it violates their new terms of use (TOU) (because DmD contains incest and maybe other unwanted content).
The links in the 1st post of this thread should be uncensored.
@All please correct me if I'm wrong here.
DO NOT copy ch1 and ch1 in the same folder. (technical seen) They are different games!

For the moment MrDots (the creator) is allowed to keep his Patreon account - but he has to stop every mention of DmD on Patreon and has to work on another game that satisfies the TOU of Patreon.
So he can gets funding from via Patreon, but officially one can only support him for his work on his new project. DmD will be continued without connections to Patreon.


I think Alcesto is wrong in this point!
MrDots overcame similar (but less serious) problems with Patreon before. And he didn't let us down in the past. Why mistrust him when we experienced a better behaviour?
hi Londo ,
i Really appreciate your reply was perfectly exaustive,
thankyou for your time :)
 
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