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If you bothered to look back through the last week or so's posts you would see for yourself.
@muttdoggy can we PLEASE suspend this thread until DmD .17 is finally released? It’s been 30 odd pages of ifs related to patreon new rules (already new threads are out there) there is a Patreon kills DmD thread and so on. 742 pages and counting! I’ve read all of them and on topic post
Please invest 10 minutes of your life and check the last posts FYI: pages 722 and onwards.
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The real problem here is not Patreon itself (I mean, they are being a dildo, sure). This incest witch hunt was triggered by none other than Paypal.
Paypal has a very strict policy regarding where the money comes from, specially if it's from porn
Strict as in: "Nope, you can't earn money with porn. Not on our watch!"
Good thing is, I read somewhere that eBay dropped Paypal usage (and they were, like, BFF for quite some time now). Hopefully this is Paypal's slow descent into disuse and other, more open-mined, alternatives will appear.
But that's just wishful thinking, with all the liberal propaganda and political correctness looming over the internet nowadays I really doubt it'll happen anytime soon.
Paypal has a very strict policy regarding where the money comes from, specially if it's from porn
Strict as in: "Nope, you can't earn money with porn. Not on our watch!"
Good thing is, I read somewhere that eBay dropped Paypal usage (and they were, like, BFF for quite some time now). Hopefully this is Paypal's slow descent into disuse and other, more open-mined, alternatives will appear.
But that's just wishful thinking, with all the liberal propaganda and political correctness looming over the internet nowadays I really doubt it'll happen anytime soon.
Not for nothing but I actually laughed out loud when you talked about liberal propaganda and political correctness considering if the religious right had their way all pornography would be illegal..
Those liberals are the only reason porn isn't outlawed. Just thought it was kind of funny...
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Liberals, religious right, whatever. Same shit, different names. In the end of the day they are just conceited biggots who try to tell us how we should live.
Anyway, when I said liberal propaganda I was refering to the incest and mind control fetishes, as they (the libs) frown a lot uppon that.
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Sorry, you are wrong Paypal is accepted as payment methods for many pornsites and vdategames website. They have a deal with epoch who are fundimentally a porn payment processor.
The whole kick has come from somewhere else. It reeks of a court order. Look at within 3 months new community guidelines where implamented and enforced vigoursly. This is pressure from Law enforcment or the ISP of the site who has spoken Law Enforcment.
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Does it now? Hmm...
IIRC I read somewhere on Paypal's ToS that they didn't allowed it...
Eh... Maybe I'm mistaken then.
I am really not trying to get into a political argument but historically that flat-out isn't true. One group is has been publicly against all pornography and the other has been advocating it as free speech but does not fight for the fringes. I will let you guess which is which but I will tell you that if the one side had it's way you would not have to worry about what happens on the fringes because anyone showing a tit would be against the law.
They simply are not comparable. You can jump on liberals for a lot of things if you want but not for porn. IE: Larry Flint
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Yep, as you said, let's not jump on political argument, I shouldn't had even mentioned liberals and stuff, sorry. We're on a forum about fetish porn games after all.
Politics are a really hot and sensitive topic nowadays. Some think they (politics) are necessary (a necessary evil, if you will), others (like me) think they are useless and just hamper free society development.
Aaaaaanyway... Getting too political again, sorry.
If there was a court order, there would have been a prosecution, a suit of some kind would've been filed. I don't know much about American law, but even a private prosecution would surely have to be public record, and there are no Federal private prosecutions. I think we would have heard about it if Patreon had been taken to court, basically.
I'll say again that it's probably no coincidence that this came shortly after Patreon took a bunch of VC money. That money almost surely came with strings attached regarding monetisation strategy (hence the attempted fee restructuring late last year) and it's no stretch to think the investors tacked on "Kick out the weird kids" along with that.
No worries bud. I would imagine arguing porn politics would be like being in the 14th circle of hell. Like I said I just thought it was funny. Have a good one.
It is not that simple. There doesn't have to be a court order and it doesn't have to be public. A government agency could have hit them with subpoena compelling them to produce documents while simultaneously hitting them with a gag order. Like they did with Lavabit.
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If that happened they can't say anything and they might be simply trying to expunge anything they may think will be damaging to them in the future.
definitely a sad turn, but all i gotta say is if MrDots is solid on at least finishing his game, i hope he goes balls to wall and puts everything and anything back into it that he originally planned or was forced to remove. unfortunately, Patreon creators now get to feel what YouTube creators did. their platform, their rules, and they WILL dictate what you can and cannot do. others in similar vein games, get your backup plans in place, or buckle to the content censorship. sucks hard for those that were making us great stuff. =/ i just hope his support doesnt dry up so badly that he folds up and disappears.
Right, but that's NSA stuff, that's spies and spooks and whatnot cracking down on encrypted email. This is cartoon porn. Unless there's some reason to think ISIS is using incest porn as a recruitment tool XD, it's fanciful to talk of gag orders and so forth (the reason for the gag order was to avoid spooking the users of the service, there's no comparable purpose here). I was working in the online gambling industry during
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, so I can tell you that gag orders and secret indictments etc are by no means the norm, the US DOJ can and will just declare open war on entire industries.
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I still feel Patreon’s actions are in line with their towing the line with merchant pay services. Merchant pay services require more money to handle adult transactions to cover the loss of income when someone claims their card was illegally used, etc. apparently that is more common with transactions and adult sites.
Thus Patreon negotiated with the merchant pay companies and Patreon restricted adult content to no link search from Patreon and nomshowing content to non patrons.
I think the further restriction on some adult content is a further extension of the merchant pay rules.
In Spain the incest is not a forbidden behaviour. It's morality bad but not forbidden It's forbidden to marry between direct relatives (grandpas , parents, brothers, and children ), but the relationship is allowed if the persons are 18
. The exception is when the incest is with an under age person (18) or there is some kind of violence.
. The exception is when the incest is with an under age person (18) or there is some kind of violence.
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Depending on her personality maybe Mel Ancholy or Mel Low. Or if the character model fits, Mel Ons.