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sabia

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Have you tried the new Chapter 6 links from the OP? Its been updated with the official working version where this problem is fixed.
Nah I downloaded the one from the torrent. I'll give it a shot now. Thanks!

Update: it works
 

TheKryptonian

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Nov 22, 2018
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@Palmer
I might only play the open version, but I already made some points in former posts. I played the game as far as I could again and STILL my opinion stands: very poor implementation of the aunt and following that character derailment of Amanda due to this.

I do not speak about if Amanda gets more or less sympathetic, I speak from a writer´s perspective on character. I write stuff myself. I have two free stories in the works and out for reading ATM and I might not be Goethe or Hemingway, but I know something about characters.
No matter if it is a character or event-driven story, the characters we make do not exist in a vacuum. They will react to events impacting them and they will do so according to their character build. If we want OoC reactions then we need to work for it.
One thing would be extreme pressure like a gun to the head, not wanting to die might override the normal typical reaction.
We could do a "Chekov´s Gun" situation in earlier chapters, introducing an important plot point or gimmick.
We could introduce the confrontation step by step over chapters.
Or we could solve such behaviour later on, wheels in wheels plans, but DFD is the wrong genre for this, it is not e.g. "The Maltese Falcon" or "The Big Sleep" where treason or fake treason is just around the corner.

What happened in DFD was not that. What happened here was you wanted to introduce an obstacle and that Aunt was a good obstacle and even dumping it fast and solid into the game was not the problem. The problem was you deciding that Amanda is a late teenager and as such should be prone to unreflective, irresponsible behaviour. And with that the wall was hit. Even teenagers act with some consistency to their character traits. The Amanda of DFD and all the early chapters was as follows:
a) Pursued her Dad
b) knew her Dad loved and was always there for her
c) helped her Dad save the diner and repairing the jukebox and is shown as rather grown-up for her age
d) knew her Dad loved her Mom
e( knows that the aunt would say and do anything to destroy the MC
f) the aunt did not care one bit about Amanda her whole life
g) (While I can go only from spoilers in part) the Aunt does not even have doctored "proof" and the story about the MC was fishy from the beginning

So Amanda has zero reason to believe her aunt in the first place, even a cloudcuckooland teenager (which Amanda is defintely not as introduced in DFD) with such a beckground would not take the bait. and it got worse, because the absurd coldness towards the MC within the drop of a hat.
Even if you might try for a "deep cover" Amanda, there is a problem. You made her too cold, too bitchy and abusive towards the MC with no reason. The sinlge sex scene in 14 does not come across as "stuck between places", but as a "pity fuck" at best. The last couple chapters of DFD are a character assassination of Amanda at it´s best, simply because you chose to override established character traits without reason or preperation, just for a story event. Sorry if this sounds harsh.
Not even close to harsh. Very reasonable but it doesnt fit the devs narrative of "it fits her character" line that keeps being used as an excuse.

So even if you get a response it will go like this....

We appreciate your feedback and take in into account... but go F yourself for doubting me! Or something similar :ROFLMAO:
 
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Avaron1974

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Aug 22, 2018
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Am I alone in feeling like Kathy is way more interesting than Amanda?
Yes, it's just you, let's gloss over the pages of those of praising Kathy, it's you alone.

I don't mean to be snarky but every time someone gets the thought into their head that starts with "am I the only one" .... you are NEVER the only one.
 
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anna_subCD

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Yes, it's just you, let's gloss over the pages of those of praising Kathy, it's you alone.

I don't mean to be snarky but every time someone gets the thought into their head that starts with "am I the only one" .... you are NEVER the only one.
Yeah, I've kind of noticed that now :)

For me, it's actually the biggest flaw of the game right now that Kathy, Heidi and Lily are all more interesting than the supposed focus is. Like, I'm pretty sure that "Ah, who cares if Amanda runs off?" is not supposed to be my reaction to chapter 13.
 

JoeSte91

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Yeah, I've kind of noticed that now :)

For me, it's actually the biggest flaw of the game right now that Kathy, Heidi and Lily are all more interesting than the supposed focus is. Like, I'm pretty sure that "Ah, who cares if Amanda runs off?" is not supposed to be my reaction to chapter 13.
I don't care for Lily that much. She's okay, but because she came a little late to the game (figuratively and literally) it feels like there are a lot of scenes involving her in a very short space of time. Which if you like her, I guess is fine, but it's like at least once per episode I'm having to shut her down or kick her out of my apartment. And strangely, that's what kind of bothers me about her more than her actual character. I think I'd like her more if she'd been around earlier and her integration had been slightly more gradual.

There's also one other thing about the sex scene in chapter 14 that bothers me that has nothing to do with Amanda. Through out the whole thing, the MC keeps telling himself that because she's not resisting that its a good sign and the fact she let it happen must mean that she still loves him. I know that's what Palmer wants us to take away from the scene but the sheer amount of repetition of that singular idea really just made me feel like the MC was in denial, or delusional about the whole thing. Amanda's attitude and 'you have to figure it out for yourself or else it won't mean anything' silence is still a really grating problem, but the MC's response and reaction are definitely a contributing factor in why that scene just felt so off-putting.
 

lanternflux

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I also didn't interpret the sex scene in Ch 14 as a sign that Amanda and MC still had affection for each other. It felt very forced and like the MC was trying to use the only thing that Amanda apparently still liked about him (his dick) to get her to pay attention to him. Him telling himself she wants it because she isn't saying no, her coldness before and after... red flag city.

The insistence that this scene somehow shows Amanda isn't the unreasonable and overreacting brat she's been acting like is bizarre.
 

Avaron1974

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Aug 22, 2018
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I've gone over that sex scene 3 times now and it still has that rape vibe.

If that's someones idea of affection then they need relationship counseling. If I led there glaring at my girl who only carried on because I didn't say no, pretty sure she'd stop and think "something aint quite right here".
 

PPE2RedDucks

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Heidi is about or around 30
Red hot, whatever the age. As well as all her other qualities, skills, facilities and attributes, of course!

But seriously, you're right. The experience shows. Kathy is similar in a number of ways (they even share some of the poses and attitudes), but like, much more knowing. Less awkward, no "harum-scarum". She's seen and been through more, endured when not enjoyed it. Great creation.
 

Zed | Love-Joint

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Dec 18, 2018
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you realize taht 12-13 and 14 the links are in offline mode right? so the save doesnt work
im trying to find a converter that isnt posted anymore
What do you mean? Every chapter up to 14 is available for free online and downloadable. That’s why I said “if you are using the online version” as they didn’t say which one.
 
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after playing ch 14 the feeling I have is the same as when I played Dual Family, very bad fuck shit. It made me depressed. After the first sex scene with Amanda (which cant be avoided) I played like a saint and didnt get involved with any other girl, NO SEX with Heidi, Khaty or Lily. I hope in the end MC will be rewarded for his good behavior.
 

Lonecanuck

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after playing ch 14 the feeling I have is the same as when I played Dual Family, very bad fuck shit. It made me depressed. After the first sex scene with Amanda (which cant be avoided) I played like a saint and didnt get involved with any other girl, NO SEX with Heidi, Khaty or Lily. I hope in the end MC will be rewarded for his good behavior.
There will be multiple endings, at the minimum we can speculate there’ll be At least one ending for each grill
 

ShiShi!

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Nov 28, 2017
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I was doing a pure Amanda playthrough but at this point, fuck it, should have gone for Heidi since the start, the much better girl, her attitude makes 0 sense and Heidi is cuter and her scenes are hotter anyways, especially in this current free chapter. Hopefully there's a good ending for players who decided to split from the original path because I am over Amanda lol
 

TheKryptonian

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I was doing a pure Amanda playthrough but at this point, fuck it, should have gone for Heidi since the start, the much better girl, her attitude makes 0 sense and Heidi is cuter and her scenes are hotter anyways, especially in this current free chapter. Hopefully there's a good ending for players who decided to split from the original path because I am over Amanda lol
You and about 99.9% of everybody else are over bitchy panties. :ROFLMAO:
 
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