VN Others Completed Daughter for Dessert [Ch. 19] [Palmer/Love-Joint]

[DrFog]

Glad to see this thread is back to normal

The last 10 pages:
We interrupt this broadcast to give you breaking news: Amanda is a bitch, and nobody cares about her anymore.

This page:
And now, back to our regular scheduled programming of the same 3 questions repeated ad infinitum:
1. Why don't saves transfer?
2. What's the difference between cracked and official?
and 3. Where are the last two chapters?

 

[Lonecanuck]

Is there a way to roll back once you click next text?

Click undo to bring you back to your last decision choice
Click log to read previous text

 

[Lonecanuck]

Glad to see this thread is back to normal

The last 10 pages:
We interrupt this broadcast to give you breaking news: Amanda is a bitch, and nobody cares about her anymore.

This page:
And now, back to our regular scheduled programming of the same 3 questions repeated ad infinitum:
1. Why don't saves transfer?
2. What's the difference between cracked and official?
and 3. Where are the last two chapters?

Man, those are the good old days

 

[TheKryptonian]

Man, those are the good old days

Just you wait until the next chapter drops... The good times will be here again...

 

[Palmer]

@Palmer

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Thank you so much for those remarks! I will just answer briefly now as we are getting close to a new release and I'm on my monthly 30-40 hours awake schedule; so a little bit stressed out

Patreon changed their TOS in Oct 2017 so there are some things I can't really reply to in your list. We were suspended at the same time as most of the other "top" adult creators and I was literally told to remove this entire thread on F95, which I'm not the creator of, and which is frankly totally absurd.

Me and AW made a stream on Twitch for 2 hours where we talked a lot about the layout of the game, how we planned the game from the beginning, etc. It's a shame it was auto-deleted after a certain amount of weeks, and that you didn't catch it.

I think a lot of what you say is subjective and your opinion is obviously as valid as ours or anybody else's. DFD was from the beginning meant to have exactly this story and was supposed to have a "TV-series" vibe to it (since you're a writer, I'm guessing you can find those elements). We never "changed" or made "additions" to the story from the initial synopsis, despite the TOS changes, which still obviously had an impact on the game. We haven't shortened or prolonged the game in any way.

We're also working on an extremely tight schedule obviously. With 3 games being currently developed, two of which are scheduled for monthly releases, things will happen - that to me and AW makes total sense - but for you, might not. And that is obviously totally okay and also why it's so important I listen to you guys.

Although I and AW don't agree with your reasoning in your post, we are obviously a) biased, b) know the story, and c) think it makes total sense. We've also never heard any of the feedback that's come up on this forum after the free release of Ch14, compared to what was being said on Patreon and/or Discord after the Patreon release, which is why I said earlier that there's a difference in what type of comments patrons/non-patrons make. There obviously is; but we do listen to both, which is why I'm here. And releasing all games for free is something we are proud to be able to do, so all feedback here definitely matters.

I'd be more than happy to talk about this further more after this month's release is done.

Again, thank you for your feedback.

 

[Lonecanuck]

Just you wait until the next chapter drops... The good times will be here again...

At least the guide will be there

 

[TheKryptonian]

That's actually not a bad thing. One of the strong points of writing is that you can kinda prey on the experiences of your audience to bring out the desired emotions in them. So if you're writing for teenage girls, you talk about the stuff that they might experience in school, with friends, etc. and then they can't help but have a gut reaction to it. But the problem here isn't that this was done, it's how it was done.

With something like this it's something that should evolve naturally over a few episodes. So for example aunt is introduced in episode 1 and she acts like a bitch. In episode 2 she comes back and tries a more carrot and stick approach that seems to convince Amanda to listen. In episode 3 Amanda is spending time with her and getting a bit standoffish at times but nothing huge. Episode 4 comes and Amanda is now acting more cold and distant. Not indifferent, like she's written here, but less prone to displays of affection and not interested in sex. Come episode 5 and she's pulling all the crap she's pulling in these episodes. It makes it seem like the aunt is slowly wearing her down and twisting her to believe in her BS. This is only made worse by the fact that it's either something she's making up 100% or we, as the audience, aren't being told what the problem is. So to us it looks like Amanda is 100% being a jackass for believing what the aunt is saying.

Amanda doesn't come off as "undecided" on the matter. She comes off as emotionally abusive. One day she's sunshine, sparkles and rainbows and doesn't want a thing to do with her aunt. Then the next day she's not coming home, she's not responding to texts, she's cold and indifferent in conversation and when you finally try to confront her on it you get a "if you don't know what you did then I'm not going to tell you." Then, when stuff feels really hopeless, they have pity sex with you before telling you it was a mistake and kicking you out, taking you from the high and crashing back to the ground.

This is actually pretty classic emotional abuse. Flip the tables and imagine a guy doing this to his girlfriend / wife and you'll see how destructive it is. There's a number of really drastic flags here. The disappearing for all hours of the day / night with no communication, trivializing or not caring about your feelings and an unwillingness to actually communicate the problem are classic abuse signs. I used to work with emotionally abused women and this shit sets off some insane red flags that immediately made me loathe the daughter.

This is exactly why the "she's undecided" excuse gets thrown right out the window. It shows she has made up her mind and believes the aunt and is exacting punishment on the MC.

 

[DrFog]

We were suspended at the same time as most of the other "top" adult creators and I was literally told to remove this entire thread on F95, which I'm not the creator of, and which is frankly totally absurd.

What the hell? Patreon told you to delete an F95 thread? Wow, that's kinda scary tbh. Makes me feel like we're being watched lol.

 

[Lonecanuck]

What the hell? Patreon told you to delete an F95 thread? Wow, that's kinda scary tbh. Makes me feel like we're being watched lol.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they have people watching forums of games on patreon.

 

[DrFog]

I wouldn’t be surprised if they have people watching forums of games on patreon.

That's fucked up man. Thinking about Patreon agents lurking on here, waiting for @Palmer to slip-up. I just don't understand why they would go that far though... You think PayPal demanded they go undercover on F95 so they can lose as much business as humanly possible? And like, who the fuck are the lurkers? Did they get hired specifically just to spy on game devs?

 

[Palmer]

What the hell? Patreon told you to delete an F95 thread? Wow, that's kinda scary tbh. Makes me feel like we're being watched lol.

You are.

 

[Zed | Love-Joint]

That's fucked up man. Thinking about Patreon agents lurking on here, waiting for @Palmer to slip-up. I just don't understand why they would go that far though... You think PayPal demanded they go undercover on F95 so they can lose as much business as humanly possible? And like, who the fuck are the lurkers? Did they get hired specifically just to spy on game devs?

Plot twist, they all have a “Well known member” tag.

 

[Dililiris]

Dude, i fucking love this game... EVEN MORE, the soundtrack of this game.

Please, if someone knows something about that, tell me! I need this lol

 

[srusnak102]

I like the game very much. Love the art work. Liked where the story was going. Still like most of the characters. But I just dont see how Amanda and mc will fix things.

 

[goobdoob]

Plot twist, they all have a “Well known member” tag.

Well, shit. You found me out! I'm Patreon Trust and Safety. I'm coming for your pixel incest!

 

[preglovr12]

Well, shit. You found me out! I'm Patreon Trust and Safety. I'm coming for your pixel incest!

I had a good laugh over "Trust and safety" myself too, what a joke.

 

[lordfridge9]

Is all this Amanda bullshit that you're all discussing from when the aunt arrived up to end of chapter 14, i.e. if anyone played chapters 15/16 is anything cleared up?

 

[DrFog]

Is all this Amanda bullshit that you're all discussing from when the aunt arrived up to end of chapter 14, i.e. if anyone played chapters 15/16 is anything cleared up?

Cleared up? Yes. Excused? Not so much.

 

[lordfridge9]

Cleared up? Yes. Excused? Not so much.

I'd love to find out for myself but unfortunately can't support Palmer. Not because of monetary reasons up because of the most bullshit technical problems ever.

 

[srusnak102]

I am not going to stop playing. I want to see the end. But i think that palmer might be going for a sad ending with Amanda and the mc and does not want to ruin that.