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BlazR

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Yeah, don't think, just consume. Just be happy with what you get. Don't hold them to any kind of standard. That's just ingratitude.
They always released on time for their Patrons except for 19 which was delayed by a month due to feedback that indicated the ending was unsatisfactory. So keep having your "standards" for your free shit. They've always met their promises to Patrons. Sorry that the free releases take a backburner to that. I guess that's a bad business model.
 
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JoeSte91

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They always released on time for their Patrons except for 19 which was delayed by a month due to feedback that indicated the ending was unsatisfactory. So keep having your "standards" for your free shit. They've always met their promises to Patrons. Sorry that the free releases take a backburner to that. I guess that's a bad business model.
Either you haven't read the thread, or didn't understand, but no one is arguing that they're delaying the paid service. In fact that's the point. It's being argued that they're withholding the free release to drive up patreons who have given up waiting and paid the $10 for the chapter. And sure, you might say they're entitled to money for their work, to which I would point you to the love-joint.com header

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There it is in clear writing. 'CREATING FREE ADULT GAMES'. It's not about a good or bad business model, it's the model they've set up, for better or worse, with the promise to release the games for free. Putting that off is fundamentally adverse to their business model and false advertising. That's what we're holding them to account for. The standard is that if a company or a developer says something, that you should hold them to it. And that's not just about quality but it's also about distribution of the product in a timely and reasonable manner. Palmer and co have exceeded both.

A developer that says they make free games, only to delay the free game to make money is being deceitful.
 

Palmer

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A developer that says they make free games, only to delay the free game to make money is being deceitful.
We have never done that, but we obviously have to prioritize people that pay $10 on Patreon for everything we've done and what they are getting that month. Sometimes that leads to longer stretches between free releases, especially if a particularly complex game is going out that month on Patreon.
 
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BlazR

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It will always be released for free. Just because it isn't within the time frame that you want isn't their problem, it's yours. The business would be unsustainable without Patrons so catering to the expectations of freeloaders is unrealistic. It's $10 for everything dude. If you want it that bad, quit being a keyboard warrior and get what you want for less than I spend on smokes and food for a day. It's trivial and the fact that you want to keep posting walls of text about it is kinda amusing. Even if they delay the release of a free game, it's still free. You get what you pay for.
 
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JoeSte91

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We have never done that, but we obviously have to prioritize people that pay $10 on Patreon for everything we've done and what they are getting that month. Sometimes that leads to longer stretches between free releases, especially if a particularly complex game is going out that month on Patreon.
Read the above post again, no one said that giving patreons the game first was the problem. No one cares that Patreons get it a month early. When it's several months though? Yeah, then it starts to feel like your mission statement to provide free adult games is a lie (and therefore deceitful).

If the mission statement of your company and of you as a developer is to 'Create Free Adult Games' then making those games free should be a major priority.

It will always be released for free. Just because it isn't within the time frame that you want isn't their problem, it's yours. The business would be unsustainable without Patrons so catering to the expectations of freeloaders is unrealistic. It's $10 for everything dude. If you want it that bad, quit being a keyboard warrior and get what you want for less than I spend on smokes and food for a day. It's trivial and the fact that you want to keep posting walls of text about it is kinda amusing. Even if they delay the release of a free game, it's still free. You get what you pay for.
I'm not the one white knighting an adult game company. If it's so trivial why are you even arguing with me? I'm simply here saying if a company makes promises you should hold them to those promises. You think it's okay to wait months for a game to be made free, then that's fine, but I have higher standards.
 

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Read the above post again, no one said that giving patreons the game first was the problem. No one cares that Patreons get it a month early. When it's several months though? Yeah, then it starts to feel like your mission statement to provide free adult games is a lie (and therefore deceitful).

If the mission statement of your company and of you as a developer is to 'Create Free Adult Games' then making those games free should be a major priority.



I'm not the one white knighting an adult game company. If it's so trivial why are you even arguing with me? I'm simply here saying if a company makes promises you should hold them to those promises. You think it's okay to wait months for a game to be made free, then that's fine, but I have higher standards.
Have you not got the other chapters for free? Or DH for free?
 
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Palmer

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if a company makes promises you should hold them to those promises
And the games are still free. We haven't promised a specific timeline for free releases. We have approximated a timeline for them. There's a difference there.

It's not gonna matter what I say, so I'm just gonna end this conversation here. Thanks for your comments, and again, have a good weekend.
 

JoeSte91

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Have you not got the other chapters for free? Or DH for free?
By that logic they could release chapter 1 for free and never release the rest of the game and still technically create free adult games. There's obviously an implication to the tagline for the company that each game/chapter will be released for free. Again, some delay is understandable. A timely and reasonable manner should be the normal expectation. The free release of Chapter 19 wasn't a priority, not just because patreons got it first, but then in the subsequent months, further paid DH releases were made, and epilogues and then free releases of DH. That's not a reasonable time frame for a chapter to be released. Okay, it's complex, then dedicate the time and resources to figuring that out in a time frame that makes sense for that chapter. The question that's being raised here that's causing mistrust is why other games/chapters were given priority over this free release, which is why people are suspecting that it was intentionally delayed to drive up patreons as much as possible.

We haven't promised a specific timeline for free releases.
You don't have to. There's still a reasonable expectation. If you create a game/chapter in 2019 and don't release it for free until 2029 (I'm being hyperbolic) that's obviously far and beyond reasonable exceptions for a free release even if it's technically still true and viable, and you shouldn't be surprised if it pisses people off. Now, we can have a discussion about what constitutes a reasonable time frame, but simply saying you never promised anything specific is just you playing your get out of jail free card.
 

Irgendwie Irgendwo

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$10 for one burger?!?!?!
da fuq?!?!
where you getting your burgers from? Kuma's Corner?
bloody hell...

;)
In case of a specialty restaurant that's quite adequate. The Burger of the Week in our local burger joint is called "Are you nuts?", and is a giant affair of 200 g beef, lettuce, deer ham, black nuts, walnut pesto, honey chili chestnuts and almond mayonnaise. All of that handmade. (Except for the ham, of course.) Price? 12,90 Euro -> 14 bucks 34.

But now, back to game discussions.
 
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aidenboy

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Is there a possible explanation as to why my choices dont mean dick in the next chapter? because somehow im sleeping with characters i didnt sleep with in the previous chapter. <using the noncracked version
 

goobdoob

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Is there a possible explanation as to why my choices dont mean dick in the next chapter? because somehow im sleeping with characters i didnt sleep with in the previous chapter. <using the noncracked version
Tip: say what "next chapter" and "previous chapter" are. Perhaps it's a known issue, and being precise (and using a less confrontational tone) would make it easier for you to get an answer.
 

aidenboy

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Tip: say what "next chapter" and "previous chapter" are. Perhaps it's a known issue, and being precise (and using a less confrontational tone) would make it easier for you to get an answer.
This has been several chapters now. example, im on chpt 14 now, but apparently in chapt 12 i slept with kathi and the redhead? if that wasnt a choice in the previous chapter then fine thats okay, but it doesnt seem like that was obvious
 

aidenboy

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I hope this is an option to not forgive amanda for not trusting in you despite having taken care of her her entire life. just a thought. Idk, after everything the mc and amanda have been through, it seems pretty rediculous for her to just distrust you 100% without trying to find out from you herself.
 
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Palmer I was a patreon pledger a long time ago for a short while and then sadly had to cancel the pledge due to coming into financial difficulties and also life problems that I won't get into BUT I wanted to say thank you for sharing your wonderful game on here and giving me the chance to play it again and it's currently downloading 1-18 ;) I hope to be back in a position to start pledging again in the future.
 
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