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VN Others Completed Daughter for Dessert [Ch. 19] [Palmer/Love-Joint]

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Devs at Palmer's calibre should seriously consider giving Patreon an ass kick. To me, they're just some replaceable middle man, aren't they? Have they forgot that fans have an option to reach devs directly?
 
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Darting run said:
Devs at Palmer's calibre should seriously consider giving Patreon an ass kick. To me, they're just some replaceable middle man, aren't they? Have they forgot that fans have an option to reach devs directly?
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Been slightly spoken about but it would be a bad move. For starters, not everyone would change over so you’d lose supporters instantly. Many other factors to consider as well.
 
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Uhh moe. Bad with clothes on, worse photoshopping his head on a womans body. Should have photoshopped on to Amanda's. Lol
 
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JoeSte91 said:
I started playing for the daughter, and I'd like to finish with the daughter, but at this point it's looking like I'll wind up enjoying the Heidi ending more.



I'd be curious to know why you bring up the difference between paying and non-paying player's comments. I mean, people who pay to support you already think the game is great or they wouldn't be supporting it. That's not to say that people can't change their minds, but if they already enjoy it that much it's not surprising that you'd see less deviation and disagreement. Conversely though, it makes it seem like you're calling the people who don't pay ungrateful freeloaders, because they're the only one's you think are criticising the story's direction.

But, let's give you the benefit of the doubt, and for a second assume that's not the implication you're making. What is the point you're trying to make with the comparison of paying and non-paying players? What exactly do you believe is the correlation?
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It's because of the exact same reason I hired AW to write DFD along with me: he didn't like my first game (Emily: Sister Attraction). It's obviously extremely interesting to listen to your guys' feedback on 14. But you still have a few chapters to go through... :)
 
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JoeSte91 said:
[...]I'm simply asking about the purpose of the comparison. The two sides think differently. And? Is it supposed to make us rethink our positions just because the people that pay for the product liked it? As I already said, it's not surprising that there's less deviation amongst people who enjoyed the story enough that they were already willing to pay for it.
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No. It gives us even more feedback, which we love, be it negative or positive; in order to make better games. Again, why would I be here if I only care about what our patrons think?
 
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Palmer said:
No. It gives us even more feedback, which we love, be it negative or positive; in order to make better games. Again, why would I be here if I only care about what our patrons think?
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I never said you only cared about patrons. If I thought that I wouldn't have asked why you made the comparison.

I also don't understand how comparing the two leads to more feedback. The fact that patrons who played it first generally enjoyed it doesn't affect my opinion. I mean, do you go to your patron subscribers and tell them that the people who played it for free didn't like it?
 
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I never said you only cared about patrons. If I thought that I wouldn't have asked why you made the comparison.

I also don't understand how comparing the two leads to more feedback. The fact that patrons who played it first generally enjoyed it doesn't affect my opinion. I mean, do you go to your patron subscribers and tell them that the people who played it for free didn't like it?
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What? No. I listen to both.
 
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Not necessarily.

Let's say I run a business. There are investors who get dividends from the success of the company. So far we're making profits but if I take a risk there's a possibility I could make a lot more money. Market research says its a good idea. However, the investors don't want to take the chance

Who do you trust? The people who don't know your business but know the market, or the investors who'd rather keep making a return on their money?

The fact is you have to take both and weigh your options. You can't ever just listen to one side of the table, especially if that table is agreeing with you. I understand that Palmer thinks that's what's he's doing, I'm simply asking about the purpose of the comparison. The two sides think differently. And? Is it supposed to make us rethink our positions just because the people that pay for the product liked it? As I already said, it's not surprising that there's less deviation amongst people who enjoyed the story enough that they were already willing to pay for it. (...)

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I'm not sure that comparison is a good one. Palmer is not out to build giant customer bases like, say, a fast food corporation, doesn't issue stocks and shares, etc. The content makes it a niche market. While it's important to try to remain interesting and become of appeal beyond an existing clientele, the scale is much smaller, the circle (strangely perhaps) more personal.

I think the gist of this fable is good. An ancient tale, but no less relevant for that, I think:

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Apart from that, Palmer has responded further, so having expressed a view and tried to clarify it, I'll conclude that view here.
 
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This month we have a special scene with Heidi and the MC, consisting of 24 bonus images. You don't wanna miss this one if you like Heidi, and more on this scene might come soon. You are of course still getting the images and everything else that follow with the tier already.

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Seriously, watch this in 1080p :)

This is v0.9; voice acting has not been added. Somethings can potentially change in this chapter later.

My favorite so far. By far.

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