Like calling a human an ape? Gotcha.You have beastmen enabled, they are regular horses when that's turned down or off. What is a centaur if not a man top with a whole horse body.
More like calling a dog a person in a dog costume.Like calling a human an ape? Gotcha.![]()
I think I know where the frustration over lack of dominant/assertive stuff stems from. From what I've noticed, it's usually expressed by gamers playing the PC as a straight boy. And herein lies the problem, because as much as sandboxy and gender-customizable Degrees of Lewdity try to be, at this moment at its core the PC is written generally as feminine, with most NPCs being masculine. What I mean by that is that one needs helluva suspension of disbelief to try not to laugh at a sexual assault scene whereby an athletic boy punches and kicks a female assailant as she pulls his head to her moist pussy. That's almost taken straight out of Monty Python's and the Holy Grail, where the valiant Sir Galahad becomes overwhelmed by the girls of the Castle Anthrax who demand to be spanked all. And after the spanking, oral sex!I thought you were talking about "roll reversal" not just domestic stuff which i agreed with adding and even said that Vrel is going to add more options from what i've read from him...
What you describe is IMHO more a problem of the player than the game.I think I know where the frustration over lack of dominant/assertive stuff stems from. From what I've noticed, it's usually expressed by gamers playing the PC as a straight boy. And herein lies the problem, because as much as sandboxy and gender-customizable Degrees of Lewdity try to be, at this moment at its core the PC is written generally as feminine, with most NPCs being masculine. What I mean by that is that one needs helluva suspension of disbelief to try not to laugh at a sexual assault scene whereby an athletic boy punches and kicks a female assailant as she pulls his head to her moist pussy. That's almost taken straight out of Monty Python's and the Holy Grail, where the valiant Sir Galahad becomes overwhelmed by the girls of the Castle Anthrax who demand to be spanked all. And after the spanking, oral sex!
So, while I play this game as a female and work things out the soft, submissive-promiscuous way, I can kinda understand the pain that the boys who wanna be boys go through when they want to play tough and realize this is not a game about a young male learning how to score women and kick butt.
It would be a massive undertaking I guess, but it would help a lot if a more male-specific route was written into the game, which would take the gender differences much further beyond just pronouns, genitalia and clothing options. This, or just drop gender configuration altogether.
Yes, it is. The way that the current sex 'combat' mechanics operate are feminine, or if you wish to use a more gender-neutral term, receptive rather than giving. And it's plain to see that, especially when you reverse the roles and make a young boy an object of a sexual assault committed by a woman. These scenes would need to be reworked if they're to be believable, unless you're all happy to accept a female equivalent of a lecherous, violent man with a raging hard-on as a lecherous, violent woman with a wet rampaging pussy out to rape some teenager's penis.That's not a M/F question.
'tis a SUB simulator, my guy. Believe it or not, a lot of men fantasize about being dominated by women. Like, over-powered and held down and fucked against their will. And yes, the game offers you a chance to be defiant, but really what you are is a bratty sub at most.Yes, it is. The way that the current sex 'combat' mechanics operate are feminine, or if you wish to use a more gender-neutral term, receptive rather than giving. And it's plain to see that, especially when you reverse the roles and make a young boy an object of a sexual assault committed by a woman. These scenes would need to be reworked if they're to be believable, unless you're all happy to accept a female equivalent of a lecherous, violent man with a raging hard-on as a lecherous, violent woman with a wet rampaging pussy out to rape some teenager's penis.
In the same vein, a lot of the main lewd events in the game as the are at the moment are difficult to reconcile with a virile character.
Oh, it's a problem for you, that your tiny boy MC gets ravished by lecherous women and you prefer him to be ravished by violent men with a raging hard-on?Yes, it is. The way that the current sex 'combat' mechanics operate are feminine, or if you wish to use a more gender-neutral term, receptive rather than giving. And it's plain to see that, especially when you reverse the roles and make a young boy an object of a sexual assault committed by a woman. These scenes would need to be reworked if they're to be believable, unless you're all happy to accept a female equivalent of a lecherous, violent man with a raging hard-on as a lecherous, violent woman with a wet rampaging pussy out to rape some teenager's penis.
In the same vein, a lot of the main lewd events in the game as the are at the moment are difficult to reconcile with a virile character.
Male specific? You saying guys can't be submissive? Also, I'd hate the gender configuration being dropped. I usually play as a cute trappy boy, I don't have any interest in playing as a girl. At least, not until pregnancy is properly introduced. Cause those are my fetishes, I guess. At the tippy top of my fetish tier, reproduction (impregnation, pregnancy, birth, childcare is always a plus) and guy on guy gay. When those two are combined I'm a very~ happy pervert. Unfortunately there aren't too many games that do mpreg properly. Though, I get that combo scratch from some omegaverse stories, so yay~! Lol, literally every other fetish takes a back seat to those two for me. Anyways, this game is clearly submission focused. If you want to be an alpha male, there are actually a lot more games of that type to play. Just not currently this one.It would be a massive undertaking I guess, but it would help a lot if a more male-specific route was written into the game, which would take the gender differences much further beyond just pronouns, genitalia and clothing options. This, or just drop gender configuration altogether.
Aren't you smart? No, the problem of a broken straight male route is not solved by turning gay. The game's mechanics still remain feminine/receptive. The mere fact that penile penetration in this game is considered an act of submission should be clear enough for anyone with a penis that this is not how it works in real life, you know. Yes, one may argue that this is a 'weird' game after all, with tentacles sprouting out of bath holes and whales devouring whole people, but the problem still persists for those players who are looking for a straight, non-gay, non-sissified, assertive way to persevere in the DoL world. Apart from refraining from sex and choosing to become a criminal, a waiter or a florist (hm?) there isn't a lot of options for playing the game as a straight boy. And this is because the game was not conceived and developed with a straight boy orphan in mind, let's be real about it. And this is why a lot of players who want to play the game this way get frustrated. The game works best if your paper-doll orphan is a female. It works fine if your paper-doll is a cute trap sissy boy. It works ok if your paper-doll is a gay bottom. It starts to crack when your paper-doll is a straight submissive type and just doesn't work if he is a straight boy who wants to chase skirts.There are convenient slider in the settings panel. "Percentage of people attracted to you that are male" → 100%, "Average size of NPC penises" → 8. Problem solved.
Last time I checked the dictionary, 'bitch' meant a FEMALE canid. Do you wish to review your statement?It's not about femininity, it's about you being the bottom bitch regardless of gender.
This is a game where you become an angel by not having sex or a dogboy/girl by fucking dogs (oh, sorry, "people in dog costumes"). There are also slimes, tentacles, cats the size of tigers, and the city itself has more rapists by square meter than it has habitants. So no, i don't think you can put fantasies "aside".Fantasies aside
I don't know the subject, but if this is really close to the gist of what they're trying to say? Then uh. I GUESS I don't fucking exist because it's impossible or some shit. I don't want to see THIS ever suggested again, like, I really can't deal.Male specific? You saying guys can't be submissive?
THIS TOO since it popped up while I was typing, I'm REALLY tired of this, go find another damn game. It's taking A LOT in me to not go off on a tangent that is HIGHLY unnecessary right now.The game is about being submissive. You don't see people going to those harem games where a male gets, like, 20 females to fuck, and ask the developer to have more submissive content. So why the hell people do that here?! This is NOT a game where you are virile. This is a game where, if you play as a boy and set most NPCs to women, you will be attacked, pin down and fucked. And those that don't want there alreadly have a fuck ton of other games to try.
TBH It's just peeps wanting THIS game to have that content because A) this game is just that good and B) they want it to be MORE in line with what they like. It's no diffrent to asking to put pregnancy or futa content in or anyother for that matter. And because this is a single player experiance and a "sandbox" the more content that "i"(the collective) want is put in, the better. And because of all the check boxes and sliders the game has, you can tailor the game to how YOU want to play it, just like i can. Do you play with every thing turned on? Because i do. Everyone has their settings they like so why not add another feature that someone else might like especially if you can just "turn it off" or just not select it. As long as it is added in an organic way that "fits" i personnaly don't see the problem. I wouldn't want it "slapped on" but Vrel has been shown to add things "smartly" so i think that he wouldn't add it unless he was happy about it's inclusion anyway. If we get it we get it and if we don't we don't. Right now you're being a "purist" for no real reason that i can see.This is a game where you become an angel by not having sex or a dogboy/girl by fucking dogs (oh, sorry, "people in dog costumes"). There are also slimes, tentacles, cats the size of tigers, and the city itself has more rapists by square meter than it has habitants. So no, i don't think you can put fantasies "aside".
The game is about being submissive. You don't see people going to those harem games where a male gets, like, 20 females to fuck, and ask the developer to have more submissive content. So why the hell people do that here?! This is NOT a game where you are virile. This is a game where, if you play as a boy and set most NPCs to women, you will be attacked, pin down and fucked. And those that don't want there alreadly have a fuck ton of other games to try.
Why not? And don't conflate games and movies unless the "game" is made by David Cage or Naughty Dog. The beauty of the RPG Sandbox stlye is that it does/can offer something for anyone unlike a movie or "storied" style that has one flowthrough narrative and ONE(or 2) style of play. This game has one objective: pay or avoid paying Bailey by whatever(style of play) way you want. That's it. Everything else are threads that players can play HOWEVER they want to play it. Sick of getting raped in the city? Go live with the Wolves and become their leader. Do i have to do this in a meek, take it on my back kind of play style? Fuck no, i bite and kick every plant and animal who gets in my way. But you would say "i'm playing it wrong" because i'm using a dominant playstyle the apparent anthisis of this game.Games don't work like that, you can't have everything within a single game. Just like you can't have a movie that is an action comedy thriller horror romance movie. No amount of sliders or options to turn things on and off is going to fix that.
You can't just keep adding more parts in, because the choice isn't between 'support a dominant playstyle' and nothing, it's a choice between 'support a dominant playstyle' and 'expand the submissive playstyle' and there are already a huge number of people who play this game for the submissive one, so people who come in and beg for dominant actions are effectively arguing against the existing playerbase.
SCREAM this shit louder for the people in the back. I don't get how just barely ANYTHING in this game is considered dominant right now. I'm ALL for satisfying as many people as possible, but within the realm of reason. This dominant discussion that KEEPS coming back up, it's been ran VERY long and VERY far, and the discussion is TIRED.Biting and kicking every animal you come across isn't dominant, because the animals are still trying to fuck you. You are resisting, but you are still not the dominant party.
A dominant playstyle would be you walking out into the street and finding women who you want to bone down with and then taking actions to make that happen. Right now the game has you playing a number of ways to be the submissive party and no ways to be the dominant party outside of a few specific instances like romancing Robin or specific encounters. That is a nice balance that gives the core of the game a very focused appeal while still allowing you space to explore that focus.
I'm a number and respond.1)Biting and kicking every animal you come across isn't dominant, because the animals are still trying to fuck you. You are resisting, but you are still not the dominant party.
2)A dominant playstyle would be you walking out into the street and finding women who you want to bone down with and then taking actions to make that happen. Right now the game has you playing a number of ways to be the submissive party and no ways to be the dominant party outside of a few specific instances like romancing Robin or specific encounters. That is a nice balance that gives the core of the game a very focused appeal while still allowing you space to explore that focus.
3)When people come in and start spouting bullshit about how the game is 'feminine' and 'receptive' or stupid sexist shit like that all they are saying is that they want the game to be fundamentally different because the current game doesn't appeal to them. They feel left out because the game has a good developer who puts alot of effort into making a game that doesn't suit their interests, so instead of leaving to find another game that better suits them they bitch on here. It is seriously the most common complaint by a landslide.
4)You can add options into a game, you can expand it's systems to include more content within the sort of experience you want to explore. But asking for this game to be a sandbox where you got walk around being the dominant sexual partner who makes the decisions about who they sleep with is just as pointless as asking for this game to feature space travel.
5)There are a hundred games that do that for every one game like this, and I'm tired of reading about people who want this game to change to something completely different every page.
6)It's not the same as people who want more tentacle content, because those people just want more options within the existing gamespace, not for an entirely different gamespace to be created for them.