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Good morning, the Milking Cow is speaking to you from my farm. I just came to say hello and tell you that the new update will be up until November. Happy New Year
Good morning, the Milking Cow is speaking to you from my farm. I just came to say hello and tell you that the new update will be up until November. Happy New Year
- Dec 2, 2021
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I'm genuinely impressed this thread hasn't been purged like another certain thread. However, an important point was made by Kellermann:
Post Ch 5 release Demon Boy is going on the back burner for me since I highly doubt another update will be released in 2023.
A commonality between each of the AVNs with the "completed" tag is adaptability of the dev(s) to modify workflow to complete their product in a reasonable time. Even starting out with a simple goal it's overwhelming just how fast the work piles up, and this is the case for any field of work.
Post Ch 5 release Demon Boy is going on the back burner for me since I highly doubt another update will be released in 2023.
- Aug 13, 2021
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Yep. It's clear that most devs (including experienced), don't have project management experience. They just kind of go with the the flow.
If it were me, I'd break up work into manageable units of time. Say, every 2 weeks, plan to have x amount of work done. Rate each task with a level of effort. Then, over time, use those level of efforts from previous tasks to help determine how much work can be done within a time period.
Another thing, devs need to remember their game is still in development. What you push out doesn't have to be perfect. I know that can be difficult when you have so many people on this site that will totally drag you through the dirt if a release is not to their liking...but, I would not delay a release for...*ahem*...weeks worth of proofreading. Since the game is in development, do your best, give it a review, then push it out and let others catch mistakes and report them. Follow-up with some quick patches after that and move on.
I bet a lot of these devs don't use source control, either. They could totally have a branch that is their main development branch, and then another that is the main branch where they could push small fixes to, while also still being able to work on their current development work.
Ok...that turned out to be a longer post than I intended. Rant over.
- Dec 19, 2018
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Can you pm me what thread do you have on your mind? There's just too many scams on f95 nowadays...
- May 1, 2022
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I've read the last 2 sites on here rn and people still don't doubt what the dev is really doing rn. One example you guys mentioned is, that he's still struggling with workflow and not realising how certain things need time. I disagree hard on this. Over 6 months ago he mentioned how he's gonna release updates - every 2 months with high quality and quantity and the struggle of delays before the release of Ch. 4 won't happen again cuz he worked out how he's going to overcome his flaws in developing demon boy. Then all of a sudden he says he's struggling with creativity and he's burnt out. Solution? Fuck yeah make a new game. If you are burnt out just work harder, that will solve everything. But wait.. Demon boy will be his highest priority even with the new game. Sure.
Progress bar: over 100 percent (renders/animation) since what.. September? This dude made 30 renders each week but happily announced he doesn't work anymore on a normal job since demon boy can support him fully. 30 renders on average per week lmao (sometimes 35. Impressive). Oh and I forgot to mention he got a new graphic card to speed up the rendering process. Wait really? Yes, but eehh.. Nothing changed. Surprising? No.
In October people started to complain on his socials until November cuz the game was actually finished but the progress bar was still rising.
SURPRISE RELEASE!
oh false alarm everybody, I found grammar errors in the game which I couldn't detect before this announcement (yep you don't check something before release)
3 weeks later and he's still figuring out the problem. Probably wrote the whole update from right to left, who knows.
So 3 weeks later.. Suddenly another problem! The animations and some renders didn't felt right. Kayyy.. Impossible to notice that 3 weeks ago when you wanted to release it as a surprise?
What followed next were a few development updates where he didn't mentioned the problems he had before and how he solved them. Usually the same " I'm a one man team. It's difficult. Hard work. I try my best." STFU!
Why he didn't mentioned how he solved the problems? Easy.. People believed him so he wouldn't need an explanation after. He also took a few days off (DAYS..) with complaints about how hard it is.
To summarize this shit :
He mentioned things earlier which don't add up what he said the recent weeks. He mentioned it multiple times how this and that would speed up his developments but somehow the opposite happened. Slow... Slower.. Sloooooower..
It's working. He gets his money with no effort. Only thing he needs to do is typing some pussy shit on his patreon to get everyone from his back. This dude started great and you could see how many effort and energy he put into the game. But that's gone. Work smart not hard. Or in eromersive's case- don't.
Progress bar: over 100 percent (renders/animation) since what.. September? This dude made 30 renders each week but happily announced he doesn't work anymore on a normal job since demon boy can support him fully. 30 renders on average per week lmao (sometimes 35. Impressive). Oh and I forgot to mention he got a new graphic card to speed up the rendering process. Wait really? Yes, but eehh.. Nothing changed. Surprising? No.
In October people started to complain on his socials until November cuz the game was actually finished but the progress bar was still rising.
SURPRISE RELEASE!
oh false alarm everybody, I found grammar errors in the game which I couldn't detect before this announcement (yep you don't check something before release)
3 weeks later and he's still figuring out the problem. Probably wrote the whole update from right to left, who knows.
So 3 weeks later.. Suddenly another problem! The animations and some renders didn't felt right. Kayyy.. Impossible to notice that 3 weeks ago when you wanted to release it as a surprise?
What followed next were a few development updates where he didn't mentioned the problems he had before and how he solved them. Usually the same " I'm a one man team. It's difficult. Hard work. I try my best." STFU!
Why he didn't mentioned how he solved the problems? Easy.. People believed him so he wouldn't need an explanation after. He also took a few days off (DAYS..) with complaints about how hard it is.
To summarize this shit :
He mentioned things earlier which don't add up what he said the recent weeks. He mentioned it multiple times how this and that would speed up his developments but somehow the opposite happened. Slow... Slower.. Sloooooower..
It's working. He gets his money with no effort. Only thing he needs to do is typing some pussy shit on his patreon to get everyone from his back. This dude started great and you could see how many effort and energy he put into the game. But that's gone. Work smart not hard. Or in eromersive's case- don't.
Its always good to give the benefit of doubt in any situation.. but I think we have all been here for long enough to recognize bullshit and the 'default update delay templates' these devs use... For all those noobs who still think that the dev is working hard or is facing burnout, think about this:
1. When he has time to pose and render wallpapers, why not use that time to finish the update? Coz that's the priority no? The wallpapers are additional bonuses for the higher tiers. That can come later..
2. Let's assume he has a burnout issue. Then the logical thing to do would be to get this update released (According to the dev, it's 'almost' done right?) and then pause patreon and take a few months off to clear his head or map out the future of the project... Nobody in their right mind would start a new project and increase the workload. But being logical and pragmatic is an entirely new concept for us.. isn't it?
TL;DR: Stop being in denial and stop supporting the lame excuses of current devs.. I'm pretty sure everyone would have the base IQ to detect a genuine reason for delay (which rarely occurs in this field of AVNs)
1. When he has time to pose and render wallpapers, why not use that time to finish the update? Coz that's the priority no? The wallpapers are additional bonuses for the higher tiers. That can come later..
2. Let's assume he has a burnout issue. Then the logical thing to do would be to get this update released (According to the dev, it's 'almost' done right?) and then pause patreon and take a few months off to clear his head or map out the future of the project... Nobody in their right mind would start a new project and increase the workload. But being logical and pragmatic is an entirely new concept for us.. isn't it?
TL;DR: Stop being in denial and stop supporting the lame excuses of current devs.. I'm pretty sure everyone would have the base IQ to detect a genuine reason for delay (which rarely occurs in this field of AVNs)
- Oct 28, 2020
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Glad to see that most people here realize that the dev is a filthy liar. If only his patrons would realize it too and cancel subscription for a few months, I'm pretty sure that the update would be released mighty quick.
In any case, since it is the season of joy and some people were nice enough to share some wallpapers, I thought I might share these as well, since this could be the closest we would ever see this scene.
In any case, since it is the season of joy and some people were nice enough to share some wallpapers, I thought I might share these as well, since this could be the closest we would ever see this scene.
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- Jul 22, 2021
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I decided to stop sponsoring, my patience is gone, the developers should stop the meaningless wallpapers, what we need is a game update, not wasting time to make those 4K wallpapers
i usually use the last date the op was edited to see when the last update was but i'm guessing from the thread whatever change the op had in October wasn't an update
- Nov 18, 2018
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Even the game Heart Problems already released a test version just for us to see the ball rolling.
- Dec 23, 2021
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- Oct 25, 2018
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I spent 20 dollars, happy new year!
What are his supporters on Discord saying right now? Now i don't see any chance update will release till 2023. Santa, why you punished me?! I was a good boy, fapping only on vanilla stuff...
They all promise an update every 2 months. You get 2 updates in a year if lucky. That's why I'll never pay again for an unfinished game. Publish your finished game on steam, I'll gladely pay for it.