VN Ren'Py Distant Horizon [v0.6] [IziRider]

[Ottoeight]

Well, 0.5 is out for a while...

 

[Slick Bean]

Distant Horizon v0.5
While the Distant Horizon was stuck in the Dead Space,
a ship approached her. To find out who the newcomers are,
check out the update v0.5!
Speaking of Distant Horizon, the new update is coming along nicely,
even with the work on Rise, I'm sure it will be released in the second half of September.
Again, it won't be a long, but it will be a full episode.
So, that's it for now.
Distant Horizon v0.6 arrives in the second half of September

 

[Belzeebub]

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[battali0n]

Any sexual activity, like sharing or lesbian (if it will include), will be avoidable, as in Rise of the Crime Lord.

Avoidable as in optional such that our choices determine that it never happens or skippable, as in it still happens but we don't see it?

 

[Slick Bean]

Month end progress report
Dev be spoiling us with deets :
Well, let's get started. First, Distant Horizon v0.6 is coming next week.
I only have part of the translation left to finish tomorrow, and then the proofreading.
Then it will be here. But before I do, I'm making v0.5 available for free,
in case anyone hasn't tried it yet and wants to.
When v0.7 will come, I don't know yet.
It's a completely new location with new characters, so there will be more work to do.

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[Draver1]

So, is there a way to tell which origin story we picked if it's been a while since we played, and all the choices kinda depend on where you were born? I mean, other than restarting the game.

 

[MAD6999]

Are they still working on your other game or has that one already died?

 

[joryh]

These are nitpicks in a porn game, but since 95% of the game is this backstory and worldbuilding, I'd say details matter, so:

• MC says the cryo survival rate is 85%. With 10 people, 8.5 survive. That means losing the first officer as mentioned wouldn't be a rarity that you avoid thinking about; you'd lose one of 5 bridge crew every other trip. Wife has taken six trips with a survival rate of 85% per trip, that's a 37% chance of survival total. That means as written, these people are all crazy and suicidal but don't act like it. There's like one line about it and it is in no way proportional to the insanely terrible odds that nobody in their right mind would accept. E.g. getting married and taking four such trips together, gives a 75% one or the other will die within four trips, so with one year outside cryo between trips they can count the number of awake years they expect to be married on one hand. Retiring to Vega would be all about "so we don't die". This even undermines MC's attitude towards worrying about wife in the future, since he should have come to terms with the likelihood of losing her long ago.
• Three minutes after telling us they're not speaking the same language due to translation nanites, one person points out that the word "ship" is still used to refer to two different concepts. Such a comment doesn't make sense if they know they're speaking different languages. (To be fair, Star Trek fucks this sort of thing up constantly.)

Percentages don't add up. They are the same each time you have a chance of something happening. That's like saying you have a greater chance to win the lottery each time you play. You do not.

 

[Erebus1]

Does the end of 0.5 say its the end of 0.4?

 

[alri]

Percentages don't add up. They are the same each time you have a chance of something happening. That's like saying you have a greater chance to win the lottery each time you play. You do not.

Yes, each individual trip has a chance of survival of 85% and that doesn't change no matter how many trips you make. But we're not talking about surviving a single trip, we're talking about surviving six trips total, where dying during any of those trips is a failure state. Doing six trips expecting to survive all six trips gives you a chance of making it of ~37.7%.

It's the difference between tossing a coin expecting heads one time and tossing a coin six times and expecting to get heads all six times.

For example, 1000000 people do six trips where each individual trip has an 85% survival rate:
1st trip: 1000000 do the trip, expected survivors 850000
2nd trip: 850000 do the trip, expected survivors 722500
3rd trip: 722500 do the trip, expected survivors 614125
4th trip: 614125 do the trip, expected survivors 522006 (rounded down)
5th trip: 522006 do the trip, expected survivors 443705 (rounded down)
6th trip: 443705 do the trip, expected survivors 377149 (rounded down)

377149 is ~37.7% of 1000000. Well, would you look at that, the percentages do, in fact, add up.

 

[Sleeping In Pieces]

Well, would you look at that, the percentages do, in fact, add up.

i don't think it's quite accurate either to say it adds up.

More like it compounds.

 

[WastedTalent]

I really like this so far... not sure what plot twists you are working on for the continuation, but will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Kadajko]

Spoil me, is the wife dead?

 

[furball8994]

Yes, each individual trip has a chance of survival of 85% and that doesn't change no matter how many trips you make. But we're not talking about surviving a single trip, we're talking about surviving six trips total, where dying during any of those trips is a failure state. Doing six trips expecting to survive all six trips gives you a chance of making it of ~37.7%.

It's the difference between tossing a coin expecting heads one time and tossing a coin six times and expecting to get heads all six times.

For example, 1000000 people do six trips where each individual trip has an 85% survival rate:
1st trip: 1000000 do the trip, expected survivors 850000
2nd trip: 850000 do the trip, expected survivors 722500
3rd trip: 722500 do the trip, expected survivors 614125
4th trip: 614125 do the trip, expected survivors 522006 (rounded down)
5th trip: 522006 do the trip, expected survivors 443705 (rounded down)
6th trip: 443705 do the trip, expected survivors 377149 (rounded down)

377149 is ~37.7% of 1000000. Well, would you look at that, the percentages do, in fact, add up.

That math doesn't add up either. Every one of the 1mil has an individual 85% chance. That means that on any given trip, All could survive, all could die or any number in between. The percentage is individual not group. Your numbers assume that 15% of the group WILL die on every trip and the number of passengers is reduced by 15% after each trip. Every passenger has an 85% chance each trip regardless of the number of passengers or the number of trips.

 

[DA22]

That math doesn't add up either. Every one of the 1mil has an individual 85% chance. That means that on any given trip, All could survive, all could die or any number in between. The percentage is individual not group. Your numbers assume that 15% of the group WILL die on every trip and the number of passengers is reduced by 15% after each trip. Every passenger has an 85% chance each trip regardless of the number of passengers or the number of trips.

Yes someone that did 5 trips and survives has an 85% chance to survive trip 6 as well. Someone that has done no trips at all yet knows in advance though that the chance (s)he will survive all those 6 trips in a row is quite a bit lower as 85% cause you do take that risk each time. If you play the lottery you know your chance is say 1 in a million to win, if you still won it the second time is again 1 in a million. The chance though that while you have not won it yet you will win it twice in a row is a 1 to dam lot of zeroes behind 1, let alone win it three in a row even if when you did win it twice in a row the chance is then still 1 in a million to win it It is why things like material failures that are only once in a million tend to happen more frequently as once in a million years if you happen to have a lot of that material used. Individually the once in a million is correct, but even then tomorrow is always still an option, but if have enough of them in use at some moment it becomes likely that at least one will fail tomorrow but as always with chance even if the law of big numbers is a pretty realistic approximation or model it is never an absolute truth.

There is a nice formula to calculate those situations exactly, but been quite a while ago I did statistics, so gladly leave that one to someone more current on the topic as me.

edit: now for the game a dev has some creative license as always and not per se has to be accurate, just believable. So as far as I m concerned is free to make his chars ignore statistical chance for the all to human nature thingy: That will not happen to me, I am special so will survive or for the lottery it will fall for me anyway despite those horrendous odds.

 

[alri]

That math doesn't add up either. Every one of the 1mil has an individual 85% chance. That means that on any given trip, All could survive, all could die or any number in between. The percentage is individual not group. Your numbers assume that 15% of the group WILL die on every trip and the number of passengers is reduced by 15% after each trip. Every passenger has an 85% chance each trip regardless of the number of passengers or the number of trips.

It's basically two different questions:
1. What is the chance to survive any given trip? Doesn't matter if you never did a trip before or if you did 100, the answer is 85%. This is what you and joryh are talking about. I agree with you, you are correct.
2. What is the chance to survive six trips in a row? The "in a row" is important, dying during any of those six trips means the whole thing failed. The failure chance of every single trip compounds, because they are interlinked since you want to survive the whole thing. The survival chance comes out to ~37.7%. This is what glassware, DA22 and me are talking about.

To use an example that actually uses relatively similar percentages and maybe makes it easier to follow and able for you to experiment with on your own:
Take a 6-sided die. If you roll 1-5, you win that roll and the chance of that is 5/6, so ~83.3%. If you roll a 6, you lose that roll and the chance of that is 1/6, so ~16.7%.
Now roll the die six times. If any of those six rolls lands on a 6, you lose the whole game. The chance of rolling 1-5 six times in a row is (5/6)^6, so ~33.5%.

I hope this helps. I genuinely feel this is just a misunderstanding of what kind of question is asked (re the beginning of my post).

 

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[goulet1995]

im curious the dev previously said lesbian would be avoidable but it seems there is already a lesbian relationship unless im mistaken so has the dev changed his stance or is it avoidable only by having to avoid certain characters completely

 

[Izirider]

goulet1995 You remember well, it can be avoided.