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Ok its been ages since I last visited this thread, and while I am glad this project still lives so do I have a question for you meepish. I remember back when Roman first mentioned that he had found a new dev/artist to take over the mantle, but that there was going to be a compromise which was a big deal for most here... And that was about the backgrounds. As in almost going to the extreme of removing them entirely.

Is this still going to be a thing? Will you go the route of having characters just floating over a background like Japanese AVNs or will it be more like the way Roman did with the characters being in actual scenes?

PS: I do like the reworked characters you have shown this far.
there will be full backgrounds but dof is going to be shallow. so very blurry backgrounds.

Are you keeping the same name orchanging it
changing it. dont know if the new name counts as a spoiler or not so just gonna wait till its ready.
 

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I already ranted on patreon so i wont repeat it here.

I know a bunch of my changes are disappointing people. i get it. my inbox and dms are full of complaints.

alls i can say is I am gonna do it the way I want and tell my story. love it, hate it. dont care.

I'm still open to good ideas and suggestions and constructive feedback will get some love. but any pissin about how much better it was before is just gonna get ignored. i cant please everyone and I'm not gonna let people run me down about it anymore. sorry, not sorry.

not tryin to be a bitch, but its my game now and a bitch is gonna do what a bitch wants to do.

and a quick thanks to everyone that has sent some love and encouragement! it was greatly needed!
 
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meepish

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My only feedback - constructive, I hope - is that the eyes used for Jane are so dark they're kind of zombie-ish. I wonder if there's another setting or rig where you could see the whites better so she looks more lifelike and human. Windows to the soul and all.
yeah i noticed on the G9 characters the default sclera is darker than it was on the G3. i hadn't attempted to do anything about it yet, but I'm sure there is a fix.
 
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My only feedback - constructive, I hope - is that the eyes used for Jane are so dark they're kind of zombie-ish. I wonder if there's another setting or rig where you could see the whites better so she looks more lifelike and human. Windows to the soul and all.
Agree, looking at it better. Eyes look off and dead like. And thats not to mention the hair for me as well. The red streak doesn't suit her personality and style, nor the style used. She's the rebel/punk gal so maybe undercut thats blonde, or if Meeps is insistant on the red, maybe on the tips of the hair with the undercut style.
 

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Agree, looking at it better. Eyes look off and dead like. And thats not to mention the hair for me as well. The red streak doesn't suit her personality and style, nor the style used. She's the rebel/punk gal so maybe undercut thats blonde, or if Meeps is insistant on the red, maybe on the tips of the hair with the undercut style.
This post is a little better. Seriously no offense, but little honest feedback for you too, that your previous posts were a little harsh. (I'm really not trying to attack you here either or start a back and forth). Sure, we're fans of the original and Roman did a great job while he had the time, so of course we don't want changes to a game we admired. But she's putting her best into it now, regardless of if we old fans like the changes. For all I know until I play it, the new game might or might not be my thing or yours. (For me it likely depends on how much input Roman has in the writing, which was the biggest strength, IMO, along with the subtle & suitable changes in facial expressions). But it could be great for a new set of fans, regardless of if I enjoy it or not (won't know until I play, of course).

Basically, it hurts to see your hard work (which isn't actually bad, just different) get trashed. Just maybe keep in mind there's a human on the other end of the screen doing that work.
 
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people are passionate. i hate when things I love get fucked with too.

i'm just wore out because all that passion for the original has been heaped on me since i started.

i know its not personal. and i'm getting a thicker skin about it. this is just very very very very new to me!
 

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people are passionate. i hate when things I love get fucked with too.

i'm just wore out because all that passion for the original has been heaped on me since i started.

i know its not personal. and i'm getting a thicker skin about it. this is just very very very very new to me!
You got the right attitude. Keep doing what you're doing. All those people criticizing you who didn't pick up the game from romie have no right to complain. If they think they could have done better, they should have gotten off their asses and done it themselves.
 

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people are passionate. i hate when things I love get fucked with too.

i'm just wore out because all that passion for the original has been heaped on me since i started.

i know its not personal. and i'm getting a thicker skin about it. this is just very very very very new to me!
Yeah. You do you, is all I can say. Take constructive criticism and brush off anything mean (easier said than done). Fanbases can be rabid. I'd almost weigh the pros and cons of starting a new thread Dr Amana 2.0 and linking it in page 1 of this thread. Might side-step some old fans who don't want change, but at the same time, may lose some potential followers.
 
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Yeah. You do you, is all I can say. Take constructive criticism and brush off anything mean (easier said than done). Fanbases can be rabid. I'd almost weigh the pros and cons of starting a new thread Dr Amana 2.0 and linking it in page 1 of this thread. Might side-step some old fans who don't want change, but at the same time, may lose some potential followers.
yeah i figure since the name and everything is changing anyway...

but cant do nuthin till first scenes are out.
 
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This post is a little better. Seriously no offense, but little honest feedback for you too, that your previous posts were a little harsh. (I'm really not trying to attack you here either or start a back and forth). Sure, we're fans of the original and Roman did a great job while he had the time, so of course we don't want changes to a game we admired. But she's putting her best into it now, regardless of if we old fans like the changes. For all I know until I play it, the new game might or might not be my thing or yours. (For me it likely depends on how much input Roman has in the writing, which was the biggest strength, IMO). But it could be great for a new set of fans, regardless of if I enjoy it or not (won't know until I play, of course).

Basically, it hurts to see your hard work (which isn't actually bad, just different) get trashed. Just maybe keep in mind there's a human on the other end of the screen doing that work.
Some can see was what I say as harsh, I see it as being bluntly honest, to which I don't care either way what I say is called. I'm the kinda of person who isn't one to filter my thoughts. Take it as you will.

And yeah, I get it, Meeps is going to do what they want, thats all well and fine. But at the same time, if one is going to be head strong and go with the whole 'IT'S MY GAME NOW, I DO WHATEVER I WANT' mantra, you risk of irking potential patrons, not to mention the fanbase, with that style of phasing.

But I'm not here to start a pissing match, just my two cents on best girl Jane, who I honestly hope doesn't get changed TOO much. I think the hair style could be better chosen for her, maybe even a tatted sleeve add to her, to go with the whole 'broken home' style that we seem to be going with.

Also... naturally speaking, I do hope to knocker up (again).
 
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And yeah, I get it, Meeps is going to do what they want, thats all well and fine. But at the same time, if one is going to be head strong and go with the whole 'IT'S MY GAME NOW, I DO WHATEVER I WANT' mantra, you risk of irking potential patrons, not to mention the fanbase, with that style of phasing.
to be fahair...this was not my mantra when I started. i actually came here quite open to conversation and ready to listen.

it was only after months of relentless bashing from the 'fanbase' that i'm finally saying, fuck it and go all cocaine cowgirl on the haters.
 

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to be fahair...this was not my mantra when I started. i actually came here quite open to conversation and ready to listen.

it was only after months of relentless bashing from the 'fanbase' that i'm finally saying, fuck it and go all cocaine cowgirl on the haters.
Fair enough.
 

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to be fahair...this was not my mantra when I started. i actually came here quite open to conversation and ready to listen.

it was only after months of relentless bashing from the 'fanbase' that i'm finally saying, fuck it and go all cocaine cowgirl on the haters.
Yeah the fans can get protective and testy and downright mean at times, to be perfectly honest.


The problem is they need to take a breath and be objective. What was before is no more. Rom couldn't finish because life, it happens. What we are getting will have echoes of what we had, but it is it's own thing. The other option was dead and never coming back as an echo or even a single render. So give this new thing a chance. See if it has something that resonates. Appreciate the beats that echo, but be realistic enough to know, you cannot expect it to be what it was. You just can't


That's my time on the soapbox.




PEACE
 
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Some can see was what I say as harsh, I see it as being bluntly honest, to which I don't care either way what I say is called. I'm the kinda of person who isn't one to filter my thoughts. Take it as you will.

And yeah, I get it, Meeps is going to do what they want, thats all well and fine. But at the same time, if one is going to be head strong and go with the whole 'IT'S MY GAME NOW, I DO WHATEVER I WANT' mantra, you risk of irking potential patrons, not to mention the fanbase, with that style of phasing.

But I'm not here to start a pissing match, just my two cents on best girl Jane, who I honestly hope doesn't get changed TOO much. I think the hair style could be better chosen for her, maybe even a tatted sleeve add to her, to go with the whole 'broken home' style that we seem to be going with.

Also... naturally speaking, I do hope to knocker up (again).
Jane's backstory is already completely different from Roman's, so it's safe to assume her personality will be quite different.

Honestly, since Roman and Meep couldn't even meet halfway and instead opting to relinquish most of the creative decisions to Meep is a clear sign that the game won't be the same as the one we've played all those years ago.

Better to see this as a new game entirely instead of a continuation.
 
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