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RomanHume

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If you are not paying why complain about how the money is spent? I supported Ianvs since he decided to restart the game from scratch. I caught it here just in time to play the old version before reboot and loved it. I actually feel bad at how much effort he puts into this game for how little payoff. He just recently crossed a 1000$ on Patreon despite top tier renders and writing. People also have a job, they can't throw themselves at making a game 24-7. And those who do burn out. Chill dude
And I love and respect my patrons and players. I make it a point to remember the ones that communicate with me a lot on patreon, discord, and here.

In fact, I'll never forget, but Tataro is the reason I have a Discord at all! It was Tataro's inquiry that made me look into setting one up! 48 hours later it was up and rolling because it was a great idea!
 

RomanHume

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This leads me to a question. How are you going to deal with change in path? Say that I happen to go red, get cute Jane pregnant but eventually go blue in the other one? Isn't there any danger of discontinuities?

About the example you mentioned: pity. I want a meaningful relationship with her but I also love Red Jane. Not that I don't love blue Jane, but i find her Red version totally irresistible!
In a complex game like this there is always a danger of discontinuity. I try to keep three things in mind when writing.

1. Is what I'm writing going to box me into a corner? If I go down this path, is there a quick sensible way off of it?
2. Will it make sense if the characters does a 180 from whatever position they're in. Can they turn completely around from here or will writing this make them committed to some act or position?
3. Does this contradict too much with anything a character has done or said previously on either path in the game.

It's challenging but it's the kind of challenge I enjoy because when you do it successfully it comes off like you're really slick! It's about making sure I have one or two outs of any given situation.

But because I know that I'm not all seeing and mistakes have and will be made, one thing I'm testing is structuring my journal entries, code and scenes in such a way that changing something in a scene that is two or three releases old, will not cause a break in a future scene, and that the change will roll forward and keep the player from ever having to do a restart.

Haha, I just started playing this game, and, aside from the spelling mistakes I saw as I'm progressing through the prologue, my first impression when I get to Nanami's sex scene isn't "Nice" or anything like that. It's "Oh shit, she's yakuza? Is MC working for the mob?"
Remember what Jesus said: Judge me not on the quality of my spelling, but on the quality of my story.

Or something like that. Yeah, typos are my bane. But fortunately I have a very intelligent player community that always keeps me up to date on those mistakes and I try to fix them all before future releases.

That aside, I hate to comment too much on characters for fear of spoilers. But thank you for giving the game a play! I do appreciate the feedback!

As someone who doesn't code and has no real understanding of it, this is all...

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Keep being the unicorn on Shia's shirt (magical If that isn't clear)
No matter how hard I try, I fucking laugh every time I see this. It's inexplicable and I have no idea why I find it so damned funny.

But yes, good code, no break, working saves, MAGIC!
 

RomanHume

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Came for Jane. Literally, symbolically and figuratively. Just wondering when she gets some new content.

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Come at me bruv! :KappaPride:
Jane, Lupita and Cassie are the three characters currently mid-development as I try to wrap up this coding work. (It's nearly done, I'm just sorting out some of the bugs in the gui. Renpy is a fickle bitch.)

For your next big project RomanHume you could re-write renpy itself :D
I'd rather try to pull down the fucking moon. o_O

If they tackle the issues of APKs created by RAPT only being capable of using one expansion file the people playing VNs with painstakingly detailed renders on fiddly touchscreen devices would be all over them, drowning them in money.
You might have to explain this one a little deeper for me. I'm fascinated by what you said, but have only started digging into learning Android in the last month or so, and most of that education went on the back burner for a bit till I'm caught up elsewhere. So your words use acronyms I know, but I don't understand the nature of the problem you're talking about.

Really enjoyed this so far. Looking forward to more content and updates down the road.
Appreciate you playing and offering up some feedback! Cheers mate!

Last update was only 4 months ago and in that time he's been busy working on the game and making things easier for himself in the long run with some short term hardship (writing code to write code). Have you not been reading the patreon posts?
Plus he has a family so can't just do this 24/7
I guess it's customary to assume that anyone making a game on this site just lives in a hole by themselves and don't have other responsibilities in life. But I think people also don't have any conception of how much work goes into making a good game. Thanks for the assist mate!
 

RomanHume

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Jezz... some people really seem to live totally disconnected from reality. Probably not even a patron, but it's here complaining and demanding faster updates of a developer who is regularly active here interacting with us in a pirate forum that has his own game divulged in a non-legitimate way; those people just deserve a dev like Gumdrop shitting on their heads like a bird.
I'm generally very good about taking negative critiques, etc. I'm respectful and I was a player long before I was a developer. So I understand where people are coming from. Anyone who has been around this forum for any length of time knows that I'm pretty laid back.

But I do pay attention here and I when I see the same names popping up complaining, and then I run a search to see what all they've posted and discover it's been nothing but just gripe after gripe about the delivery date of their free game, well then I feel justified in showing my ugly sinister side for a bit.

I don't unload like that on everyone. If this had been his first time, I'd have sympathized, apologized for the delays and try to explain the reason for things. But repeat offenders?! I just get it out of my system and move on.



Ugh, and I was a Gumdrop patron. It was one of the first games I had played before discovering F95Zone. So yeah, I get it. But I respond to everyone and I'm always willing to back up what I say. If I needed a break or wanted to take a month off, I'd pause Patreon and just tell everyone "I'm out for a bit, I gotta recharge." The backlash from that is easier than lying for months and months and then having to deal with the lie when you come back *cough*isctor*cough....
 

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No matter how hard I try, I fucking laugh every time I see this. It's inexplicable and I have no idea why I find it so damned funny.
I tend to laugh at it a bit as well, because it's so damn spot-on I didn't realize the first few times that it was Shia and not the actual magician Doug Henning, who I grew up watching on TV as a youth.
 

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RomanHume -

I've been following this thread for some time because, as odd as this might seem, I thoroughly enjoy reading your thoughts about creating your game even more than the game itself. You write with a directness and clarity which I find refreshing, especially in this cesspool of teenagers just looking for teh bewbs...

Tonight, however, you took my respect for you to the next level by standing up for yourself in the way that you did and I believe that should be rewarded. I am now a patron of your project and will increase that as I rebalance my Patreon budget.
 

RomanHume

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RomanHume -

I've been following this thread for some time because, as odd as this might seem, I thoroughly enjoy reading your thoughts about creating your game even more than the game itself. You write with a directness and clarity which I find refreshing, especially in this cesspool of teenagers just looking for teh bewbs...

Tonight, however, you took my respect for you to the next level by standing up for yourself in the way that you did and I believe that should be rewarded. I am now a patron of your project and will increase that as I rebalance my Patreon budget.
Nothing I can really say would wholly express my gratitude. Thank you!

I'll never ask anyone for money, but I am sincerely grateful for every single dollar anyone chooses to support the project with.

I'd love to do this full time one day. And I know that getting to that point means regular updates and consistency. But I would rather work hard to get there on a solid foundation that will support this game into the future, than to just jam out as much content as I can no matter how broken or janky it is.

I know the waits can be long and I'm apologetic for that. I just always hope that when the drop, the time, energy, effort and passion are apparent.

Some devs annoy me because they get thousands and thousands of dollars a month, but act like they're too busy or too good to talk with the players. I never want to be that dev. I always try and respond to every comment and inquiry. I may not always respond quickly, but like tonight I had some time between test runs that I try and catch up on all the chatter.

If you ever feel I'm slipping or losing the edge, let me know!

And hopefully when you get behind that paywall you'll at the very least find some tantalizing art for your imagination to play with while I get this done. :D
 

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Plot twist in all of this... We end up knocking up the Doc and bring her into the fold of the harem... And maybe a threesome with Jane and Cassie... :3

P.S. RomanHume You certainly seem to be one the few Devs out here that tends to listen and take feedback rather well. Tis great thing for a Dev to listen to us lowly horny plebs with our thoughts and sins.
 

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And just so everyone is clear, I'll never hard line a position I'm not 100% confident of. But I'm sitting on a mountain of hard work right now in code and art that I'll gladly throw in the face of anyone that accuses me of being some shill whose sitting back and milking patrons.

I have a lot of love and passion for this story. I love my characters, my setting, and everything transpiring in my head that is going to happen between them.

I work on this game for four and five hours a night after the family has split up to do their own thing. This game IS my free time. But it's not a burden. I look forward to those hours every single day because making this game is one of the most fun things I've gotten build.

I get to connect with players from all over the world, talk with like minds, and chat with people that are just as interested in these characters and their story as I am. Isn't that what every fiction writer wants?! To have their work loved as much as they do?

Anyway, I know on occasion I have to go off on some one here and there when they touch the right button, but by and large I love all of my players. And even if you don't like the game, I still love learning why. Sometimes it opens up creative doors I wouldn't have discovered on my own.

Thank you ALL for playing! I truly do salute you!
 

RomanHume

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Plot twist in all of this... We end up knocking up the Doc and bring her into the fold of the harem... And maybe a threesome with Jane and Cassie... :3

P.S. RomanHume You certainly seem to be one the few Devs out here that tends to listen and take feedback rather well. Tis great thing for a Dev to listen to us lowly horny plebs with our thoughts and sins.
When it comes to value of listening to players, paying or not, I always point the pregnancy thing.

As a writer, I like things that create drama because that's where interesting stories come from. The heat of whatever thing is challenging them. I know pregnancy isn't for everyone, but when someone mentioned adding to the game, it was like lightning.

I'm like, "SO MUCH DRAMA!!!! THIS IS CRAZY AND AMAZING!!!", and from that point forward I knew the game had to have it. There's a lot of sexy stuff you can do with it, as well as story stuff.

Not every great thing in this game was of my own design. Much of it came from just talking to players about possibilities.
 

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Has there been any word or hint for when the next update is going to be? Not complaining, just asking. This game seems like it would be fiendishly difficult to write with all of the variables, much less code and render.
 
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You might have to explain this one a little deeper for me. I'm fascinated by what you said, but have only started digging into learning Android in the last month or so, and most of that education went on the back burner for a bit till I'm caught up elsewhere. So your words use acronyms I know, but I don't understand the nature of the problem you're talking about.
With pleasure. Although I'll have you know that neither Android nor Ren'Py is my area of expertise.

The root of the problem lies with Android enforcing artificial file size limitations on APKs. The overall size currently can't exceed 4GiB and has to be distributed among 3 files: the initial APK with a maximum download size of 100MiB and two so called expansion files of 2GiB each. The problem at hand is the Ren'Py Android Packaging Tool only making use of one expansion file and in turn limiting Ren'Py games to a maximum asset size of 2GiB to remain playable under Android. And while this doesn't need to concern you at the moment, it may force you to (re)compress certain assets or split your build pipeline at a later point in time if you want to support Android devices.

See regarding it's support of expansion files and on the Android Developer Blog (while predating the of the initial APK it's still a concise alternative to the ) on the nature of said files.

Hope this helps!

Ah man, just came back from reading the rest of your replies from last night. I was especially moved to see that while I wind down playing games you're winding down making one - basically on the same time of day. I also realized I'm pledging too little... Well, time to put my money where my mouth is, I guess.
 
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Came for Jane. Literally, symbolically and figuratively. Just wondering when she gets some new content.

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Come at me bruv! :KappaPride:
Dude what? How do you mispell Cass that badly multiple times. You got a few symbols wrong there too, probs some html or some shizz tho, here let me help you:

Cass = Cass = Cassie >>> ...clear daylight... > Jane and the rest

There. Much better :poop:
 

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But I do pay attention here and I when I see the same names popping up complaining, and then I run a search to see what all they've posted and discover it's been nothing but just gripe after gripe about the delivery date of their free stolen game, well then I feel justified in showing my ugly sinister side for a bit.
Fixed that for you!

Ugh, and I was a Gumdrop patron. It was one of the first games I had played before discovering F95Zone. S
How did you find DF before you found F95zone? I found DFD on Newgrounds, then searched for more chapters, and that led me here.

If I needed a break or wanted to take a month off, I'd pause Patreon and just tell everyone "I'm out for a bit, I gotta recharge." The backlash from that is easier than lying for months and months and then having to deal with the lie when you come back *cough*isctor*cough....
But...that $50k/month piling up in the bank account for several months makes it WAY easier to deal with the lie! :ROFLMAO:


About milking - I've seen so many idiots nice people here bitch about milking, when it was quite clear that the $106 the dev (Aorrta, in this case) was getting for doing nothing isn't him sitting back enjoying the good life while doing nothing. Some times it's obvious (Gumdrop, etc), but "milking" gets thrown around too often. Usually by people who drive by and don't read the thread, and have no idea what's going on. Kind of like the idiots nice people who bitch that Pandelo still gets $2k/month, even though we haven't heard from him in a year and a half. Never mind that his patrons confirmed (and keep confirming) that he pauses Patreon every month.

My point - the forum is full of idiots nice people. Don't let them get you down.
 

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Jezz... some people really seem to live totally disconnected from reality. Probably not even a patron, but it's here complaining and demanding faster updates of a developer who is regularly active here interacting with us in a pirate forum that has his own game divulged in a non-legitimate way; those people just deserve a dev like Gumdrop shitting on their heads like a bird.
Complaining about the pirate forum while using the pirate forum. Outstanding!
 

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For Lupita, is the best choice to go red with her?
I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely:)
 
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I assume it's faster but surely both routes will give us sex scenes. However if someone is more inclined towards romance, he'll probably prefer the blue route.
I for one went all red with her, it just seemed to fit nicely:)
Red = her ass after she gets her spanking!

Blue = blue balls for "romance"

:ROFLMAO:
 
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