VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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Devon Rehab

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I know allot of you make fun of Gumdrops for things like the camera angles of his scenes or some of the dialogue and say he's some kind pretentious artist with delusions of grandeur but maybe that's why some people still support him despite him being any combination of conman/Patreon milker/incompetent/lazy you think he is. I know most of most likely also complain about all the shitty incest games that are crap written by Russians with a tenuous grasp of the English language or that just rip off the tropes and/or art style of Japanese hentai games.

To me this is whats most disappointing thing about this whole thing. Dual Family seemed to be something different and ambitious, and it can still be if Gumdrop ever releases more of it. A realistic, slow build up incest story with no mind control gadgets or magic bullshit. And I keep saying that I don't care about the mother/son story and only in it for the dad/daughter and uncle/Karen stories but a game that gives a choice like that makes it stand out from most other incest games that only offer one or the other.

So here's my very basic idea for a game, anyone who wants to use it feel free. Take the basic set-up of Dual Family, family on the verge of breaking down, choose between father or son to play as. The two main romance targets are the mother and daughter. If you want you can include more girls like more than one daughter, other female relatives, co-workers or classmates, etc. Now this part will upset the anti-NTR crow but I don't care: at certain points you'll have to choose who you would rather spend time with, or are in a situation where you can't interact with the girl your targeting. If you don't have enough points with your girl of choice either the other family member you didn't pick or another NPC character will get their own chance to score points with her and at certain points in the game the points will be measured up and the character with the most points will advance their relations ship with one of the girls(or more than one if you want harem routes but these should be even harder to advance). I say if Gumdrop doesn't release ever again or just keeps taking as long as they do someone should make a game in the same spirit and see how well it does and whether I'm right or I'm wrong.
 

Joshua Tree

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Devon Rehab There is those that been trying to copy successful games before with little success themselves (hence the expression "yet another big brother clone"). The sad truth is, the interest Dual Family generated was due to GD's pretentious grandeur of story (or whatever to call it), more than anything.

For those that make fun of the renders, story and whatever, why hang around in the thread at all? Or why not make something better? Because that easy right?

People being upset with him over empty words and broken promises, now that something else.
 

Devon Rehab

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Hell why are most of them still posting here? If there upset about being ripped of one or two posts every now and then is understandable. But most people seem to be here to shit post. If I wanted to wade through shit every day I'd still be hanging out in in 4chan's /weg/ threads but hell even they only brought up Dual Family very rarely after Gumdrop started taking so damn long between the last release and now or when ever the game comes out. Sometimes on this site threads for popular games get temporarily locked before an update is supposed to come to stop it being flooded with people begging for the update.
I think this thread should be locked until the next release is confirmed released, because in my opinion even pirates begging for the new version would be better than an endless shit post festival. Hell even if the release winds up sucking after all this time then at least all the complaining and/or shit posting will be over something new and worthwhile instead of the endless wheel spinning it is now.
 
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Hell why are most of them still posting here? If there upset about being ripped of one or two posts every now and then is understandable. But most people seem to be here to shit post. If I wanted to wade through shit every day I'd still be hanging out in in 4chan's /weg/ threads but hell even they only brought up Dual Family very rarely after Gumdrop started taking so damn long between the last release and now or when ever the game comes out. Sometimes on this site threads for popular games get temporarily locked before an update is supposed to come to stop it being flooded with people begging for the update.
I think this thread should be locked until the next release is confirmed released, because in my opinion even pirates begging for the new version would be better than an endless shit post festival. Hell even if the release winds up sucking after all this time then at least all the complaining and/or shit posting will be over something new and worthwhile instead of the endless wheel spinning it is now.
There won't be a release because this is a scam. See: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/post-2398851

And the game is very mediocre, see my review where I highlight the hilariously bad writing that people who are too obsessed with incest apparently fail to notice. Plenty of devs, even Russian ones, have produced and finished better games, both render-wise and gameplay-wise, since this scammer became a full-time scammer over two years ago.

That you seem to be unable to deal with deserved criticism (and Captain's logs) and informed warnings to new people about the nature of this scam doesn't mean mods should lock the thread. What kind of nonsense would be to shut down any possibility of informing new people about this scam? if anything the game should be tagged as ABANDONED and a clear warning of this being a scam added in the first post (current one fails to mention that this guy hasn't even released any evidence of work being done). Only then we can begin to talk about locking it.
 
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Siddington

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I know allot of you make fun of Gumdrops for things like the camera angles of his scenes or some of the dialogue and say he's some kind pretentious artist with delusions of grandeur but maybe that's why some people still support him despite him being any combination of conman/Patreon milker/incompetent/lazy you think he is. I know most of most likely also complain about all the shitty incest games that are crap written by Russians with a tenuous grasp of the English language or that just rip off the tropes and/or art style of Japanese hentai games.

To me this is whats most disappointing thing about this whole thing. Dual Family seemed to be something different and ambitious, and it can still be if Gumdrop ever releases more of it. A realistic, slow build up incest story with no mind control gadgets or magic bullshit. And I keep saying that I don't care about the mother/son story and only in it for the dad/daughter and uncle/Karen stories but a game that gives a choice like that makes it stand out from most other incest games that only offer one or the other.

So here's my very basic idea for a game, anyone who wants to use it feel free. Take the basic set-up of Dual Family, family on the verge of breaking down, choose between father or son to play as. The two main romance targets are the mother and daughter. If you want you can include more girls like more than one daughter, other female relatives, co-workers or classmates, etc. Now this part will upset the anti-NTR crow but I don't care: at certain points you'll have to choose who you would rather spend time with, or are in a situation where you can't interact with the girl your targeting. If you don't have enough points with your girl of choice either the other family member you didn't pick or another NPC character will get their own chance to score points with her and at certain points in the game the points will be measured up and the character with the most points will advance their relations ship with one of the girls(or more than one if you want harem routes but these should be even harder to advance). I say if Gumdrop doesn't release ever again or just keeps taking as long as they do someone should make a game in the same spirit and see how well it does and whether I'm right or I'm wrong.
Well your post started off great and echoed what a quite few people have said about Gumdrop and his creation on a whole. However the second half was nothing more than the "this game would be much better with NTR" and "Dis game suks, needs NTR!!!!" posts we've all seen strewn across every game thread on this site. While this comment was obviously a lot better thought out than most and its grammar was significantly better. You people literally won't stop until every game has cuckold content will you
 

Joshua Tree

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Well your post started off great and echoed what a quite few people have said about Gumdrop and his creation on a whole. However the second half was nothing more than the "this game would be much better with NTR" and "Dis game suks, needs NTR!!!!" posts we've all seen strewn across every game thread on this site. While this comment was obviously a lot better thought out than most and its grammar was significantly better. You people literally won't stop until every game has cuckold content will you
Well, if their idea of fun is to linger in the corner rub their knob watching their wife, gf, (whatever), get rammed up the baguette chute, then by all means. But would be nice if they didn't try to impose their fetish on everyone else's. I don't really see people post in threads about NTR heavy games and ask them to remove it. Because, people who not into that stuff, have no interest in it to begin with.

On that note though, you see people complain about lack of content (porn), in more story rich/heavy games too. Actually, people bitch about all sorts of things, when think of it. I guess its to much to ask for, to tell people to stay away from things they don't like and stick to what they do like, and interest them.
 

botc76

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Honestly, I check this thread out maybe once a year, mostly just for shits and giggles.
Lots of creative put-downs for the pretentious fraudster here, but also lots of completely delusional fools who still believe Gumdrop isn't just scamming his patrons.

Yet I have to say, that he still rakes in this amount of money each month, for not doing ANYTHING, that actually is an insult to so many hard-working devs who struggle to make a living with a few hundred bucks or get so little that they work menial jobs and can only work on their games in their rare free-time AND still manage to do several hundred times more than Gumdrop.
We have devs who earn not even a hundred bucks and who still listen to us pirates, appreciate our input and keep on adding to those games, even if it gains them nothing, because they actually care for their work.

How can people care so little for their money AND about being cheated by a lazy con-artist?
 

lostraven

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CAPTAIN'S LOG, HAPPY (BELATED) NEW YEAR! CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S THE YEAR 244526346 ALREADY!

Well, well, well...Here we are again.
Another deadline, another miss, a tale as old as time on the Dual Family thread.

Crew were excited to finally see the legendary, mythical animations produced by Fatcat, animations supposedly over two years in the making, what revelations did they reveal? Did they in-vigor hope in the chat? Inspire new faith with jaw dropping visuals that gave us all a reason to go 'ahhh...I see it now! I see why it's taking so long!'

...Not really.

While Gumdrops failed to hit the deadline (pathetically), once again, he tried to shake things up a bit! Offering us for the first time a real glimpse into the ACTUAL Update!

Now was the chance for Gumdrops to show, knowing he had once again failed to meet the final, final, final, FINAL deadline, (Remember boys and girls, (it's getting embarrassing at this point, his words, not mine :rolleyes: ), the complexity and intensity of the work being produced in this update to justify this and all previous delays.

Now was the time to show something substantial to mitigate the rumors about him and stifle the ever growing discontent, to provide an eye-watering peak behind the curtain, letting us know the wait was justified.

...But instead of substance, once again the tired old, 'I'm an over-protective Mom' excuse came out, (one of the Gumdrops mammal's favorite excuses in it's natural habitat).

Well, I'm afraid the 'over-protective Mom' has smothered her cubs, because the absolute bare bones lack of anything convincing when it comes to substantial work to show with this 'update' has only poisoned the well further with any 'trust' you could give to him as a 'developer' (A term I use loosely in his case).

Gumdrops' continued promises that all the 'good stuff' is hidden away behind the secret Vault has been promised for so long now, that most of are pretty sure the only thing in the vault is not the promised gold, just some dust and cobwebs.

Production goes well as usual.

Anyway, the teasers!

The first teaser
was just the usually melodramatic nonsense with 'The Matriach' (God that's pretentious to write), chatting the usual flutter of absolute nothing, offering no insight into anything other than the continued whining of it's self-absorbed depressed cast.

Despite all the bluster of improved visuals, the standing characters look little to have improved from their 2017 iteration, it's no wonder the teasers as highlighted by our new F95 Detective, WinterW, are all angled to obscure most of the scenes, as to actual SHOW the scene would require actual development, and why do that when you can just do another weird dutch angle shot close up and hide your actual lack of work?

See here for some additional night-time reading material courtesy of our very own P.I! https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851

I'm convinced at this point Gumdrops must just permanently live on a boat out at sea, it would explain why he only see's the world through the lens of the Dutch angle, for to him, everything is a Dutch angle!

The Second Teaser was slightly more promising, (kinda), while the animation did look incredibly smooth, it only showed a pair of gently swaying a little...Exciting stuff.

One would think a Developer might be more inclined to show something a bit more enticing! But what would I know right?

Now comes the next excuse already lined up, as this sordid affair continues, it is no doubt that with Fat Cat's imminent departure, the animations will remain incomplete and Gumdrops will need to seek out 'another Animator.'
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*Cough* Prepping his Discord for the next let down, must be an emotional rollercoaster being one of his followers at this point! You go up and up with promises and then just, 'sorry lads and laddettes :) Maybe next time, won't you take this sweet ladies hand though for a dance when she arrives?'

One would think he would have hired an additional animator to help Fatcat given the apparent production speed, or, perhaps he might have thought to have used the time more wisely, knowing FatCat is leaving on a set date a to seeking an animator to replace him now rather than later, presumably where there will be zero development in the meanwhile while he seeks out his 'new' animator.

Or, maybe he could just bloody do the thing himself. I dunno.

P.S I know some of the Gumdrops minions frequent this thread to read up and angrily report to their master, Hi guys! :) Welcome to the party!

The truth is, this sordid tale has gone on so long, I'm actually starting to forget the details, like a fantasy epic, it just goes on...and on...and on....But one brave soul managed to give a pretty good recap of the whole thing! You can find the NEW Gumdrops Historian, TheFapperBoy and his recapping of this long dreary tale, here!
https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/post-2759620

Oh, but don't worry!
In case you were wondering how the wide eyed sheep of the Discord were reacting to ANOTHER failed delay.
Well,

...


It'lL bE wOrTh It In ThE eNd GuYz :D


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P.S
If ever there was a time to introduce a new tag Gumdrops' behavior, this would be it.
Gumdrops continues to 'skirt' the rules (barely) by maintaining faux-activity), and if rules can be written and created solely because of another awful Dev, DarthSmut, then the same can be applied to Gumdrops. 'Scam-Dev' is my tag suggestion, make it nice and bright for people to see, and only remove it once the Dev actually does something worthwhile.


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This is your Captain, Signing off!
 
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lostraven

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Honestly, I check this thread out maybe once a year, mostly just for shits and giggles.
Lots of creative put-downs for the pretentious fraudster here, but also lots of completely delusional fools who still believe Gumdrop isn't just scamming his patrons.

Yet I have to say, that he still rakes in this amount of money each month, for not doing ANYTHING, that actually is an insult to so many hard-working devs who struggle to make a living with a few hundred bucks or get so little that they work menial jobs and can only work on their games in their rare free-time AND still manage to do several hundred times more than Gumdrop.
We have devs who earn not even a hundred bucks and who still listen to us pirates, appreciate our input and keep on adding to those games, even if it gains them nothing, because they actually care for their work.

How can people care so little for their money AND about being cheated by a lazy con-artist?
I've missed a Botc76 comment from here XD
Just need a reflective over-view 'review' from you now of 'The Christmas' update' (last years, LOL) and shenanigans been going on since, and my new year will be off to a good start, lol.
 
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Jim Webb

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Honestly, I check this thread out maybe once a year, mostly just for shits and giggles.
Lots of creative put-downs for the pretentious fraudster here, but also lots of completely delusional fools who still believe Gumdrop isn't just scamming his patrons.

Yet I have to say, that he still rakes in this amount of money each month, for not doing ANYTHING, that actually is an insult to so many hard-working devs who struggle to make a living with a few hundred bucks or get so little that they work menial jobs and can only work on their games in their rare free-time AND still manage to do several hundred times more than Gumdrop.
We have devs who earn not even a hundred bucks and who still listen to us pirates, appreciate our input and keep on adding to those games, even if it gains them nothing, because they actually care for their work.

How can people care so little for their money AND about being cheated by a lazy con-artist?
Whenever I'm feeling down or need an good laugh I come to this thread it never dissapoints.

As for Gumdrop at first I was disappointed that he seemed to be going this route the route of the con-man. Then, I got an bit angry, then, I found it funny now! I'm just stunned completely that he's managed to keep this going for so long keeping his patrons at an steady number and I have to be honest an little impressed that he has managed to hoodwink so many for so long with his endless bs. Of course he makes an mockrey of all the other devs who work hard and don't get half as much support as he gets.
 

Ice piece

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I see so many BB clones nowadays, therefore it would be interesting, say if someone else continues this game and earns money through it, I am sure it will rustle his jimmies and maybe(1%) motivates him to release it(2030):illuminati:.
 

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blackmagic616

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https://f95zone.to/threads/43101/
https://f95zone.to/threads/11530/
https://f95zone.to/threads/19709/
https://f95zone.to/threads/10883/
this are some, there are other ones which were lost in time, unofficial sequels, prequels, there are ones with a similar plot but different models also nowadays 2 sisters and a brother(mc), mom and aunt games are pretty common.
Big Brother: Fan Game is just a RenPy port. Not sure about Big Brother: Another Story, but it seems to be a pre-alpha game (0.0.1). Lisa's Special Day is a BB parody. In my opinion, only Ways of Life may be considered as a BB clone. However...
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I just wonder one thing. Are there any DF clones?
 
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