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Never ending story - when Xmas/NY didn't realase devs milking people. Who normal want compile month of game into one? Renpy isn't good for that size of archive and script...
 
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Never ending story - when Xmas/NY didn't realase devs milking people. Who normal want compile month of game into one? Renpy isn't good for that size of archive and script...
I'm still wondering why, and the meaning of this long/eternal merging.
Every game has phases (vol.1, vol.2 ecc.), so far only a little of renpy games can afford to have a single playthrough.
So why bother for a huge game like Ecchi Sensei?
What is wrong with going on like past years, with a Week 1, Week 2 organization?
That really blows my mind. o_O
 

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I'm still wondering why, and the meaning of this long/eternal merging.
My best guess is they incurred a lot of technical debt early in the project, and it's finally come due. They're probably refactoring a lot of things to make it so everything doesn't fall to pieces whenever they try a merge, and all the little features like the character list actually work, and stuff like that.

Fixing bad design decisions from early in the process is never fun, but it only gets harder the longer you put it off.
 
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Merge occurs because it was always meant to occur, it was planned from the start by the patrons, that we would handle it this way as it was the easiest solution to the issue to come. This was always going to culminate one way or another, as developers learn and grow things have to change, there was no avoiding a costly merging process. All at once is the only sane way to do it, or else it would take forever. Better to get it all completed right now and then work from there on.

If you ever wanna blame anyone, blame patrons we voted and said tis what we wanted, consequences be damned. We're getting nearer and nearer the finish line, I'll let everyone know the second things change.
 
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Merge occurs because it was always meant to occur, it was planned from the start by the patrons, that we would handle it this way as it was the easiest solution to the issue to come. This was always going to culminate one way or another, as developers learn and grow things have to change, there was no avoiding a costly merging process. All at once is the only sane way to do it, or else it would take forever. Better to get it all completed right now and then work from there on.

If you ever wanna blame anyone, blame patrons we voted and said tis what we wanted, consequences be damned. We're getting nearer and nearer the finish line, I'll let everyone know the second things change.
i agree fpr the most part but the finish line is 365 a full in game year.
 

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havent played in over a year. by now is it revealed who mao's father is and what happned to Hiroko in the past?
back when i played it was implied that she was raped by her dad.
 
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I'm still wondering why, and the meaning of this long/eternal merging.
Every game has phases (vol.1, vol.2 ecc.), so far only a little of renpy games can afford to have a single playthrough.
So why bother for a huge game like Ecchi Sensei?
What is wrong with going on like past years, with a Week 1, Week 2 organization?
That really blows my mind. o_O
The merge was always planned, but a big part of it is fixing bugs and optimizing the code. Right now saves don't transfer between weeks so your choices don't matter, but after the merge all weeks will work together. Right now alternate languages are coded in such a way that they take up a ton of extra space, but after the merge they'll take up far less space and be much easier to add when new translations are done. Right now the phone doesn't really work and Bluecat is just using the text message screen to fill in the parts where it's necessary, but after the merge the phone should fully work giving players access to character profiles and much more at any point while playing. Future updates after the merge will continue like the old with new weeks being released monthly. The merge is just them cleaning up the foundation and fixing the cracks so that all those future updates are easier to build without breaking anything.
 

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Merge occurs because it was always meant to occur, it was planned from the start by the patrons, that we would handle it this way as it was the easiest solution to the issue to come. This was always going to culminate one way or another, as developers learn and grow things have to change, there was no avoiding a costly merging process. All at once is the only sane way to do it, or else it would take forever. Better to get it all completed right now and then work from there on.

If you ever wanna blame anyone, blame patrons we voted and said tis what we wanted, consequences be damned. We're getting nearer and nearer the finish line, I'll let everyone know the second things change.
Wait. Games like DMD have a Chapter1/Ch.2/Ch.3 and so on organization. Their developers didn't merge anything (and you fill a little questionary ad the beginning of every chapter).
 

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The merge was always planned, but a big part of it is fixing bugs and optimizing the code. Right now saves don't transfer between weeks so your choices don't matter, but after the merge all weeks will work together. Right now alternate languages are coded in such a way that they take up a ton of extra space, but after the merge they'll take up far less space and be much easier to add when new translations are done. Right now the phone doesn't really work and Bluecat is just using the text message screen to fill in the parts where it's necessary, but after the merge the phone should fully work giving players access to character profiles and much more at any point while playing. Future updates after the merge will continue like the old with new weeks being released monthly. The merge is just them cleaning up the foundation and fixing the cracks so that all those future updates are easier to build without breaking anything.
So, again: all this worth the wait of one year or more (for the gamer) and the loss of many followers (for the developer)?
 
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This is quickly getting into the " WTF is going on, this is ridiculous" territory. I do however think the devs aren't intentionally milking. I think they've realized their coding is really bad and they've spent the past months trying to unweave the code they've woven and can't figure out how to make it work.

The best course of action, if they can't figure out how to make it work soon, is to abandon the merge and just split the game like DMD and some of the other larger games are. Start fresh with new code, instead of trying to fix the unfixable.
 
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