Personally, I always think about Patreon as a Tip-jar. Probably because I found Patreon when Akabur (Princess Trainer) promoted it as such. Never liked it when 1st timer Devs start their project on Patreon with multiple tiers and rewards, probably thinking "my game is the best ever", to simply abandon their game shortly after as it doesn't generate the cashflow they were dreaming about. Ecchi's Tier system is, for me, especially off putting. Limiting Tier 1 to 50 people scared me away from donating (yes donating) because I still see the games as passion projects first.Feels like I'm seeing a pattern there.
That is actually thin ice to walk on. Legally it IS a conventional business. They accept money from donators/investors and promise work for that. While there are risks as the dev not being able to deliver, legally the dev has to do all they can to fulfill the promised rewards. No in some cases this is some difficult terrain as there are no real promises in this case, but not doing any work (not saying or assuming they're doing that!) would be fraud.
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Yes, historically and linguistically, a patron is not a customer. Patrons help to support an artist to give them the freedom to create, to help support the arts.
Perhaps that is why we are called Patrons when on Patreon, rather than Customers or Financial Supporters. Language has a great deal of meanings and interpretations. Finding the right one is a hard challenge to make a good impression on people.
Historically, most art patronages tended to be commissions. After all, someone needs to own the land/space/wall the artwork is going to occupy. And artists generally didn't get as much freedom of expression as typically thought.
Linguistically, well:
I see Patreon as subscription based crowdfunding.
I can't believe I'm getting into semantics in a, possibly dead, porn VN thread, but so help me someone is wrong on the internet.
On the bright side, if you are a regular of a restaurant you can proudly tell the cute waitress that you are a patron of the fuzzy drinks. Maybe even try to smoothly get her number after that line. It'll surely work. Surely.
If you frequent a bar instead chances are you've already tried to get her number.
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Oh don‘t worry. I‘m pretty sure the game is not dead, just massively delayed. All will be good once the update releases. After that the only negativity will be „Wow, so much time for so little content? Milking much?“
I sure hope Blue will post something BEFORE the end of the month because if not it'll feel like he just waited for another months paycheck which will leave A bad taste.
Shouldn't this be tagged as abandoned? I thought it was when a dev went 3 months without an update?
Your question has been asked and answered previously, and repeatedly. As per the rules of the F95Zone it's not abandoned. Don't agree with the rules? That's your prerogative, but it doesn't seem like they're going to change any time soon.
I don't have the energy to go over the details, so please do everyone a favour and go through the exhaustive number of posts on the subject in this thread, yourself.
No, it isn't abandoned, please do not bring this up again it was already discussed to death. The game is still in active development.
I'm trying to play but image not found errors keeps getting on the way, my guestion is anybody know how to fix this problem? it started very early at game, from image "30" not found.
Hey, I've been away for a couple months, does anyone know if there's a tentative date for the update?
No, there is not one as of right now, but things have finally calmed down and I'm hopeful people will stay patient.
yeah that's the problem, I'm getting proper one now
thanks for help friend.
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U told few month ago that merge almost ready, but devs still has nothing to show (at least on partreon). I woudn't trust any words about merge progress until somebody post gameplay video here from it. Text for now means nothing it's have same weight as a wind so we need more real proofs...
Meh. You don't have to believe shit.
There is currently a patreon post up regarding the current progress of the merge, though since I don't use the site I can't post verbatim.
As of right now its just translation work for all the added features, mostly the character cards, and Bluecat cannot give an exact finishing date, because he isn't sure when the hell they will be done. He's not gonna pull something from thin air, just that its nearly over.
If anyone takes issue with that? Keep it to yourself, nobody cares. That being said, this is signaling the end point of the merge, and hopefully relatively soon testers will be given the product for bug hunting. Bluecat said it himself, he just wants to actually make new content again, but can't do that until the boring work is done first.
Stay patient, it will come when it comes, and bellyaching won't make it go any faster, matter of fact it probably slows shit down. I'm sure someone who actually has access to the post will put it up here for viewing.
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Is there a reason these updates are behind paywalls? Doing that has only seemed exacerbate the issues with peoples trust here.
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You said that 3 months ago. What's changed in that time? Nothing. The same statements, the same wishful thinking. Until the developer bothers to post proof that it's nearly finished, and not post cat pictures, anything you say is pointless
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Ecchi sensei merge vs Evangelion 3.0+1.0 who will win?