VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[Skummy Ecchi]

Hey errybody, I be back, and apparently so is Latecomer so I guess the void I left got filled in, neat.

To cut it short, computer issues, and a vacation to the beach I back, ready to help but that seems relatively moot as of right now.

 

[Dukez]

On hold would mean they are not working on it.

Perhaps they should change their patreon sub tiers then, since they still list access to *monthly* game updates, which in fact hasn't been a thing for several months now. You could heavily argue it's a scam since they aren't living up to what their sub tiers suggest and at the very least, "updates" are on hold since they are stuck in an endless loop of merging already made content into a single package.

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

Perhaps they should change their patreon sub tiers then, since they still list access to *monthly* game updates, which in fact hasn't been a thing for several months now. You could heavily argue it's a scam since they aren't living up to what their sub tiers suggest and at the very least, "updates" are on hold since they are stuck in an endless loop of merging already made content into a single package.

You can't heavily argue its a scam, it just isn't one, end of story. For those who do not wish to support, there is this thing called not giving the team money, that you can do. Try it out, see if it works, those who have stayed on this long are cognizant of the situation and choosing to stay in on their own volition. Cool them jets!

 

[Smarmint]

Closer than before
Still a lot of work that needs to be done but we're getting there

Latecomer, thanks a lot for the details. That makes things a little more clear.

So, I understand you don't want to give an exact date, but can you give us something? You must have some general idea of how things are going, right?

Based on your efforts, do you expect a release within the next 3 months? The next 6 months? The next year?

It's been almost a year already, do you think you will have a release before the end of 2021?

As a programmer yourself, I am sure you understand why it is hard for the computer experts and programmers among us to understand why it takes a year (or more?) to do what other devs seem to be able to do in just a month or two, especially since no rendering is needed.

But, hey, we all love Ecchi Sensei, that is why we hang around here after so much time. Whenever actual new content is released, I am sure everybody here, and all your patrons of course, many which are here also, will be pleased.

Since you know best of anybody when a release can be expected, at least a rough time frame, how about letting us know?

Thanks!

 

[Latecomer]

As a programmer yourself, I am sure you understand why it is hard for the computer experts and programmers among us to understand why it takes a year (or more?) to do what other devs seem to be able to do in just a month or two, especially since no rendering is needed.

But, hey, we all love Ecchi Sensei, that is why we hang around here after so much time. Whenever actual new content is released, I am sure everybody here, and all your patrons of course, many which are here also, will be pleased.

Since you know best of anybody when a release can be expected, at least a rough time frame, how about letting us know?

Thanks!

Unfortunately my health has begun deteriorating at some point in 2019... Spent nearly half of this year in hospital, only started working full time at my job again last week, and I can't really manage that yet, which is why I took a few days off already
Progress is slow but it exists, we'll get there eventually

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

You'll just have to settle for ol' Skummy till then :3

 

[Waynew91]

I lost my save and had to start over. I finished week 1 but when I start week 2 every image is missing would anyone be able to help me

 

[Smarmint]

Unfortunately my health has begun deteriorating at some point in 2019... Spent nearly half of this year in hospital, only started working full time at my job again last week, and I can't really manage that yet, which is why I took a few days off already
Progress is slow but it exists, we'll get there eventually

I understand, I am glad you are feeling better. Sorry for your illness. Real life is much more important than any game, so hang in there. Thanks for stopping by here to chat with all of us.

Well, I won't ask any more for a target, since it sounds like you are just starting to look at it again, but when you do have a better idea, maybe in a few months, it would be great to share some kind of estimate here.

A lot of devs get into the mindset that if they don't have good news, its better to not say anything, or keep everything vague. But I don't think this is right. We are all adults here, we can take bad news. Even if you came out a month from now and said, "You know, this is taking forever, and I can only work on it 2 hours, every other day due to health reasons and other commitments, so our best estimate for the merge is May 2022."

Just as a hypothecial, I am sure a few people would complain, but most people would just he happy to have a idea of what is going on, and we would all just do other things, and then check back next year.

 

[c4145317]

Unfortunately my health has begun deteriorating at some point in 2019... Spent nearly half of this year in hospital, only started working full time at my job again last week, and I can't really manage that yet, which is why I took a few days off already
Progress is slow but it exists, we'll get there eventually

Are there any plans to move the megamerge to the back burner and begin work on week 4 as a standalone? I'll be the ass and assume Blue can work on that alone while you slowly chip away at the merge.

 

[baloneysammich]

To give more context, in the beginning an average day would come with around a hundred individual variables. After I joined and started optimizing things, we got anywhere from 10 to 30 depending on the day. The format I'm implementing now is just one list per day (see Python lists if you're not familiar with them) but storing all the choices.
Like, every single choice the player makes gets stored, but without bloating saves. And instead of storing individual calendar entries, messages, character info stats etc. in the save - i.e. what *really* bloats them - they get calculated ad hoc

Is this what BC was referring to in the last status update when he said "It's necessary to disassemble the core code of the engine because of our new storage system." If not, can you elaborate on that statement?

I assumed he was talking about this kind of thing, but others read a lot more into it, and I'm not really sure who is correct.

 

[Yodasy]

where/how can i find the watersport stuff?

 

[FanOfEcchiSensei]

I am still a big fan of the game, however I'd like to see some ACTUAL progress, not just text. Because like I quoted, text can be very far from the truth.
Am I wrong for being on the side of caution?

 

[Deleted member 440241]

Are there any plans to move the megamerge to the back burner and begin work on week 4 as a standalone? I'll be the ass and assume Blue can work on that alone while you slowly chip away at the merge.

Bluecat has worked on content for the next few updates, but there's no plan to release them as a standalone. Part of the point of the merge is to set up future updates to always work with current saves. Using the old system to release week 4 would ruin that and force another merge shortly after.

 

[fashtar]

Hey, hey! No name-calling and no insults! This is still a forum. May be one on the Internet, on a pirate site, but that doesn't mean we can't be civil. Ranting is fine, but no personal attacks!

 

[kristijanEX]

I had a HORRIBLE experience with this game, but the game itself is a 5/5.

Spent days to download the behemoth uncompressed version of the game since I didn't want to miss out on renders (which will be ironic later in the story), then I booted up the game and had a great time for 6 hours, which is how long it took me to get to Day 4 whilst reading everything and checking the side menus whilst pondering the choices.

At this point, I had a great time, the only thing I regretted was one choice I made when

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but it wasn't that bad, then I went to the menu and hit the fucking butterfly in the menu, THAT IS WHERE THE DARK MIND DLC WAS THIS WHOLE TIME AND IT WAS OFF FOR ME, so I essentially missed a shit ton of content, raqe quit and deleted the game.

And I was wondering the whole time, when's this game gonna get dark whilst my dumb ass didn't turn on the Dark Mind options (I thought the Kinks submenu was the menu that Dark Mind enabled, I didn't know there was a separate Dark Mind sub menu that needs to be activated by pressing a butterfly that nobody told me about).

So basically now I wasted 6 hours and I would have to go back to Day 1 to get all the DM content, which I wasn't willing to do so...I just deleted the game for my sanity. It's a shame because as I said the game is a 5/5, I just had a shitty experience.

However if there's one thing I could complain about and which can't be a detriment of my stupidity, it's the fact that nowhere is it stated that there is a separate DM content menu and where it even is in the first place, it's pretty hidden...

 

[Latecomer]

In other news, I just had an epiphany on what we can do to make the M1 release a lot sooner, but at the cost of additional dev time and effort in the future... If I'm right about this, it should not have an impact on saves and compatibility...

Discussing it with the team at the moment, BlueCat's got the final say on the matter

 

[baloneysammich]

However if there's one thing I could complain about and which can't be a detriment of my stupidity, it's the fact that nowhere is it stated that there is a separate DM content menu and where it even is in the first place, it's pretty hidden...

Glad to know the FAQ I spent hours working on was a good use of my time.

(I call this series of emoticons "salty sarcasm")

 

[baloneysammich]

Am I wrong for being on the side of caution?

IMO no. But concluding the December update was an outright lie is wrong IMO. BC made other projections early on that also proved to be incorrect:

August 2020

If everything keeps going according to plan, we will be announcing the release dates for Alpha, Beta, and Final in the next week or in two weeks.

September 2020

[T]he biggest obstacles in the code are in the past already.
That means that we can slowly start with playtesting...

Sure, maybe he was lying all along, but I find that hard to believe based on other evidence.

 

[RandoCard3]

I had a HORRIBLE experience with this game, but the game itself is a 5/5.

Spent days to download the behemoth uncompressed version of the game since I didn't want to miss out on renders (which will be ironic later in the story), then I booted up the game and had a great time for 6 hours, which is how long it took me to get to Day 4 whilst reading everything and checking the side menus whilst pondering the choices.

At this point, I had a great time, the only thing I regretted was one choice I made when

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but it wasn't that bad, then I went to the menu and hit the fucking butterfly in the menu, THAT IS WHERE THE DARK MIND DLC WAS THIS WHOLE TIME AND IT WAS OFF FOR ME, so I essentially missed a shit ton of content, raqe quit and deleted the game.

And I was wondering the whole time, when's this game gonna get dark whilst my dumb ass didn't turn on the Dark Mind options (I thought the Kinks submenu was the menu that Dark Mind enabled, I didn't know there was a separate Dark Mind sub menu that needs to be activated by pressing a butterfly that nobody told me about).

So basically now I wasted 6 hours and I would have to go back to Day 1 to get all the DM content, which I wasn't willing to do so...I just deleted the game for my sanity. It's a shame because as I said the game is a 5/5, I just had a shitty experience.

However if there's one thing I could complain about and which can't be a detriment of my stupidity, it's the fact that nowhere is it stated that there is a separate DM content menu and where it even is in the first place, it's pretty hidden...

Wait, Tara is Tomoe's "Overseer" without the patch? I guess that makes sense, unless I'm thinking of different characters.

My advice is to start a new game after turning the patch on, and hold Ctrl to skip any dialogue you've seen. As long as you don't have it set to skip all dialogue in the options, it will stop whenever you get to any patched dialogue you get to, even something as simple as a single word difference. It'll take a while, but nowhere near as long as going through the whole thing. Maybe an hour? Give or take 15 minutes?

 

[FanOfEcchiSensei]

Honestly it has been so long I forgot most of the plotlines.. There are a lot of the girls I like, but I mean my top 3 from memory right now (in no particular order) is probably Itsumi, Kotori and Fuyu, so any of those I guess.
What about u?