VN Ren'Py Abandoned Ecchi Sensei [Day 22-23 Final] [BlueCat]

[BIackBaron]

Whoever think they're scamming is frankly an idiot, what they're doing is called setting up goals and fucking up deadlines cause said goal was way harder than planned.
That's why you don't do episodic but incremental, it's a monumental and pointless task to backpedal to a different build.

Which is also why I prefer the "pay for content" model instead of the per month no matter what dev do.

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

You're not the first to make this mistake, but BC has no $999 patrons. Nor $500 or $250.

This doesn't change the fact that the scam critique makes no sense.

Incorrect, one person is a 500$ supporter, but refuses to use Patreon to support Bluecat, as well as myself as Patreon takes too big a cut and I am paying a nice bundle so I want that to go to the dev.

 

[Paitryn]

I'm gonna be honest Skummy, you probably do more harm than good with your posts here. Every time you post its getting people more riled up. This is like the guy whos on the team for SSR7, when you get this close to the developer you develop a bias, it ruins all the credibiltiy of your posts.

and playhome is used by many devs. When it doesn't look quite like HS2, its a playhome game. OFC no one likes to talk about the fact they are using a game to make a game. Even if they try to call the screenshots "renders." (not a bluecat thing)

Bluecat does put a lot of effort in his work and I wouldn't question that at all. But you keep saying things that are counterproductive or disingenuous. I know you want to support him the best you can, but this may not be the best way. Your financial support is more than helpful I imagine.

Incorrect, one person is a 500$ supporter

Holy Crap! And I thought my starship purchase in SC was going too far! 500 a month for a hobby dev game?

 

[Dukez]

Bluecat does put a lot of effort in his work and I wouldn't question that at all. But you keep saying things that are counterproductive or disingenuous. I know you want to support him the best you can, but this may not be the best way. Your financial support is more than helpful I imagine.


Holy Crap! And I thought my starship purchase in SC was going too far! 500 a month for a hobby dev game?

Bluecat should really be paying skummy, they put more effort into community relations than bluecat/devs seem too.

Also mentioning SC I feel is like a bad omen lol, but on the bright side with that game atleast by the time it comes out everyone will probably have a PC that can run it, heck another gen of consoles might be out by then. Really hope it's good when it comes out, I need a good scifi game.

 

[PrimeGuy]

I'm gonna be honest Skummy, you probably do more harm than good with your posts here.

I don't know that I agree. I for one, and I imagine many people like me who just remain quiet, appreciate Skummy's posts - as until the member of the dev team came back to the thread, they were the only source of any real information as to what was happening. Yes, that information was less direct and full than I would have liked, but I don't think that was ever Skummy's fault.

For everyone his posts may 'rile up', it likely helps someone like me who stays quiet, and less upset for lack of any useful information as well. I suspect this thread would have a lot more "what's happening?" "any news on update?" posts, and angry replies to those questions without Skummy as I have seen on a ton of other threads. Not a better situation if you ask me.

Just my two cents on the matter.

 

[Joshua3883]

Just curious is the DEV still working on this game, I don't have any money to be a patreon because I have to many bills, so I don't know the progress of the 1 month release, can someone give me an update I really love this game.

 

[RandoCard3]

Just curious is the DEV still working on this game, I don't have any money to be a patreon because I have to many bills, so I don't know the progress of the 1 month release, can someone give me an update I really love this game.

Not yet. We seem to be making some progress as of a few days ago, but we're still not sure when it'll release.

 

[baloneysammich]

I'm gonna be honest Skummy, you probably do more harm than good with your posts here.

I don't know that I agree.

I know that I disagree.

A lot of people seem to... forget that this is a pirate community, and we are owed absolutely nothing from devs no matter how fanatical we may be about a given game. Anyone who gets "riled up" by Skummy's posts for more than a hot minute wouldn't be happy with anything less than a release (alpha at least) and isn't worth acknowledging IMO. The amount of shitposting here is just due to the game's popularity and the lack of expertise/curiosity/diligence to appreciate what Skummy does for our community.

But you keep saying things that are ... disingenuous.

What has Skummy said that you consider disingenuous?

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

Fun fact I do get a form of compensation for my work here, I just don't take a paycheck. So in a manner of speaking I'm technically on the Dev Team in a tertiary role, knowing what's going on but having to keep things to myself, if I am asked by Bluecat to do so. My apologies if this sounds cryptic but I do need to follow the rules given to me.

I can understand that I can be quite polarizing, I've understood this fact from the start. Earlier on I would agree with you, that I was more just fighting off anyone who had anything negative to say about Bluecat. These days I've tried a more sanitized approach of making sure that Bluecat is not held on a pedestal (I legitimately have called him out so many times for his incompetency on this issue). However, I also push back against notions of scamming, or deception, or anything else underhanded because I don't like those conspiracies taking root.

I try to keep you all distracted, and if there is ire, have it directed towards me to act as a buffer zone for everyone, to voice their displeasures and soak that all up. I realize it might seem like I make issues worse, but then its everyone arguing with me, instead of screaming to each other and getting louder and worse with each post. There's no feedback loop because I act like a termination, grounding this back to some semblance of normal discourse before it gets out of hand.

So, if unclear, no I won't be stepping back from my role again, already did that once and tried to come back a lot more tidy and clean. If I am really that biased in Bluecat's favor I will try to be more neutral, but then I'd have to ask the worst of the vitriol knock it the fuck off, tradsies and all that. Until then you're stuck with me like this, which I don't feel is the worst. If you got to know me outside of me posting this type of stuff, you'd probably really like me personally, I am very friendly .

I hope we all can have the merge come out soon, and thus hopefully have updates afterwards and finally get back to the story, but until that time here we will be, going around in circle :3 You know what does well in circles?

QUESTIONS!

Question 1, Fuck Marry Kill anyone in ES, simple starter.

Question 2, Though this one isn't a question I guess...Describe your favorite girls but using fruit analogies, much like how Homer Simpson describes marriage as an orange.

Question 3, If you didn't want the room in the basement being used as a sex dungeon, what would you turn it into? What are you? Gay? No seriously any other ideas for it?

Question 4, How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? By that I mean, how long do you think you could handle the entire family coming at you for sexy time at once?

Question 5, on a scale of 1-Go Fuck yourself, where does Crazy Nurse stand for you?

That will be all from me today, with that being said, I'll still be lurking after.

Stay Skummy, Stay Ecchi!

~Skummy Out

 

[fashtar]

Question 1: Marry Fuyu, Tomoe, Kaede, Kasumi, and Nikki (POLYGAMY, BITCH!), Fuck Masae, Marlies, Satomi, Mika, Minako, Sloth-chan, Ina, Mei, and Becky (I'M A PHILANDERING BASTARD!) and Kill Akira, Taira, Satsune, Aki and Hanami. You should have specified if we were limited to just 1 person. And I'm gonna be Mr. Efficient for you there and say: Marry Fuyu, Fuck Masae, and Kill Akira. Crazy Nurse reserved for the final question.

Question 2: Skip. I can't do comparisons for shit.

Question 3: Well, if I had to pick something other than sex dungeon, I'd make it a nice Library. Or a money vault. Never know when a rainy day is gonna come.

Question 4: Who in the wha- Oh. I think I could tolerate the wife, Mao, and Saki, but lose energy if I had to do all of them, including Himiko and Kotori. I hope that scenario doesn't come, but if it came to it...

Question 5: A solid 4. Crazy Nurse is only tolerable because she somehow manages to prove herself useful so far, but as soon as we get self-sufficient, I'm tossing her to the proverbial lions. Or off an actual cliff. Never stick your dick in crazy unless absolutely necessary.

 

[Markosh_1973]

Congratulations !!!
Now you finally did it: I'm completely confused and really freaking out...
Here is more cover-up, silence, secrecy and conspiracies than in the entire politics ?!?
I thought this was about a game and an extremely long waiting time including technical problems and not about world domination or the next holy king ???

(*Irony & sarcasm off*.)

But now really quite honestly:
I love Ecchi Sensei very much and thoroughly enjoyed the available 3 weeks a lot
I also considered supporting BC via Patreon.
But after spending countless hours on the forum, I really don't know if I can even call this "thing" a project anymore.
Apparently no statement is really true, a "real" statement from BC I have found none ???
And the "press officer" knows apparently EVERYTHING, but is not allowed to talk about it.
(Which I think is a rather questionable decision, but who am I).

And now my personal question:
Can I in good conscience invest my few €, which I have left, here?

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

Congratulations !!!
Now you finally did it: I'm completely confused and really freaking out...
Here is more cover-up, silence, secrecy and conspiracies than in the entire politics ?!?
I thought this was about a game and an extremely long waiting time including technical problems and not about world domination or the next holy king ???

(*Irony & sarcasm off*.)

But now really quite honestly:
I love Ecchi Sensei very much and thoroughly enjoyed the available 3 weeks a lot
I also considered supporting BC via Patreon.
But after spending countless hours on the forum, I really don't know if I can even call this "thing" a project anymore.
Apparently no statement is really true, a "real" statement from BC I have found none ???
And the "press officer" knows apparently EVERYTHING, but is not allowed to talk about it.
(Which I think is a rather questionable decision, but who am I).

And now my personal question:
Can I in good conscience invest my few €, which I have left, here?

Number 1, don't give money if you are not able to, that's just a fact, nobody needs it that bad.

Number 2, I know enough, not everything, and most of it I've told you all. The only time I'm not allowed to talk about it is when its very much not set in stone as to what's happening and so I don't go around making incorrect statements.

 

[baloneysammich]

Now, on to questions! Since I chose to adopt Alice's character as a supporter since her original ditched her, what do you guys figure is gonna be the new direct with her moving forward? I will remind you Alice is the asshole ginger bitch who keeps trying to cockblock us.

I almost forgot about this.

Personally, I don't like the idea of "living down to her expectations." She was somewhat yandere so I could understand going that route, but I'd prefer the option to "win her over" somehow such as with Christa.

 

[RandoCard3]

Question 1, Fuck Marry Kill anyone in ES, simple starter.

Question 2, Though this one isn't a question I guess...Describe your favorite girls but using fruit analogies, much like how Homer Simpson describes marriage as an orange.

Question 3, If you didn't want the room in the basement being used as a sex dungeon, what would you turn it into? What are you? Gay? No seriously any other ideas for it?

Question 4, How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? By that I mean, how long do you think you could handle the entire family coming at you for sexy time at once?

Question 5, on a scale of 1-Go Fuck yourself, where does Crazy Nurse stand for you?

1: Fuck: Everyone else Marry: Class 3-A (Mao, Fuyu and Tomoe if forced to choose) Kill: Crazy Nurse Yes, I'm cheating. Yes, this is backward, shut up.
2: No, that sounds like to much effort. But Eggplant for Matsu.
3: I'm gonna stick with the play room. I'm not changing a thing.
4: I'd probably freak. Yuki is there, and that's not my jam. Excluding her though? More than you'd think, less than you'd hope.
5: Go Fuck Yourself. Assuming that's bad. From a narrative perspective, I see her to much of a threat to the girls under my care (yes, I'm aware of the hypocrisy), and from a meta perspective, it feels like she's holding other routes hostage behind hers. I'd like to pursue Chiaki and Haruka without the need for mind control. Her last scene was hot that, so silver lining, I guess.

And now my personal question:
Can I in good conscience invest my few €, which I have left, here?

Nah, wait it out. Things look like they may be turning to the positive, but you never know what fuck up happens next. Best to wait until a few updates release, then see if you want to put the money in later.

I almost forgot about this.

Personally, I don't like the idea of "living down to her expectations." She was somewhat yandere so I could understand going that route, but I'd prefer the option to "win her over" somehow such as with Christa.

Her turning out to have a secret slutty side would would be a fun twist. One that you have to unlock through seduction.

 

[Paitryn]

I know that I disagree.

while you may disagree reading the responses to his posts seem to make a different argument. Not everyone is going to see everything the same naturally.

A lot of people seem to... forget that this is a pirate community

Let me clairify something everyone seems to miss: you can't pirate free games. And believe it or not Illusion owns the rights to any work produced using their software. Its a sketchy bit of legal ground, but no one can really afford to challenge it. Daz3D model creators have a lot of rights too even if you purchase the models, you don't neccesarily purchase permission to use them for profit.

The Devs in general are using patreon to side step copyright issues by being donated to directly and giving games for free.

There are only maybe a small handful of games here that are actually pirated. If anything we are a porn game community.

What has Skummy said that you consider disingenuous?

Saying playhome models were custom designs, but if you know playhome, there is not such thing. There is always a base model. While Blue did adjust the characters to be unique in look from the base game, his statement implied something a lot more than just adjusting sliders and changing hair/textures.

And bringing to light the "I already know the answer" somethings are just best left not said than said. Thats the counterproductive. It opened a bees nest with that.

 

[Zmeu]

Question 1, Fuck Marry Kill anyone in ES, simple starter.

Anyone not subsequently mentioned; Kaede, Saki, Tomoe, Sloth-Chan; Himiko, Wifey, Tara.

Question 2, Though this one isn't a question I guess...Describe your favorite girls but using fruit analogies, much like how Homer Simpson describes marriage as an orange.

Too much effort!

Question 3, If you didn't want the room in the basement being used as a sex dungeon, what would you turn it into? What are you? Gay? No seriously any other ideas for it?

Leave it as is - Any self-respecting pervert has to have a dungeon.

Question 4, How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? By that I mean, how long do you think you could handle the entire family coming at you for sexy time at once?

In-Game? Permanently.
IRL? About 20 minutes - I'm old, goddamnit.

Question 5, on a scale of 1-Go Fuck yourself, where does Crazy Nurse stand for you?

Assuming "Go Fuck yourself" sits at 10 (to keep things manageable): About a 5 - She's fuckable, potentially useful, and crazy can be fun, as long as it's controllable.

 

[Skummy Ecchi]

while you may disagree reading the responses to his posts seem to make a different argument. Not everyone is going to see everything the same naturally.



Let me clairify something everyone seems to miss: you can't pirate free games. And believe it or not Illusion owns the rights to any work produced using their software. Its a sketchy bit of legal ground, but no one can really afford to challenge it. Daz3D model creators have a lot of rights too even if you purchase the models, you don't neccesarily purchase permission to use them for profit.

The Devs in general are using patreon to side step copyright issues by being donated to directly and giving games for free.

There are only maybe a small handful of games here that are actually pirated. If anything we are a porn game community.

Saying playhome models were custom designs, but if you know playhome, there is not such thing. There is always a base model. While Blue did adjust the characters to be unique in look from the base game, his statement implied something a lot more than just adjusting sliders and changing hair/textures.

And bringing to light the "I already know the answer" somethings are just best left not said than said. Thats the counterproductive. It opened a bees nest with that.

I don't believe in lying so I did say honestly I do hold information that I am not always at liberty to discuss, however I do say everything that is applicable. As I described, it is because anything I don't tell you hasn't actually been set in stone, and I do not wish to have to go back and correct my errors for speaking up before the time needed.

Beyond that, while you may have a point, I will also remind you that just because there is a base model that all renders start off from-does not mean that simply all character designs are just reimaginations of that base model. Since Playhome actively has character cards, I would argue that each time you create a unique design style that isn't being done by anyone else, that is a custom model, whether or not its from the same base as every other custom character you make in playhome.

The purpose isn't to say "Oh Bluecat is so skilled to be able to do all this basic shit that anyone can with enough practice" its my statement that you really do not find these character designs anywhere else. Whereas I can most assuredly tell you I find plenty of character models repeated in a multitude of games because tis just easier to cut and paste for some.

I simply mean to say that Ecchi Sensei has a unique cast of character designs, which is true, and that helps to add to its own individual charms and part of what makes t so popular for people.

All of this aside, it is aright if you are wary of me, I don't deny its hard to trust anyone about anything really. I won't judge you but I'd like you to give me the benefit of the doubt on this, I haven't done anything that would point to me being untoward and I'd like it better if I could not be treated as though I'm doing something wrong. I won't attack you for the position but I'd prefer if it you would trust me as I have little to gain from deception and a lot more to lose in integrity and credibility otherwise.

As well if you have issue with how I choose to address everyone, then my apologies, I won't deny also that I'm still not the greatest at this. I can admit to being incompetent and prone to falters, its part of the learning curve. Bear with me as I learn how to better address issues and critiques, in the same way I bear with others lobbing incredulous statements around everywhere when things get heated.

Also thank you to those taking part in my little question roundabout, I find it hilarious none of you are trying your hand at the fruit question, I'll post my own answers up later on :3

 

[cavaemon]

its worth donating to. not saying dont or do but support at min is a good enough thing for the game dev atm since updates are not really being pumped out enough... i love the game but me having replayed the game over 3 times for different outcomes got me to play other games out of waiting for more. still tho i rate 4 out of 5 still since its not done yet and so far game makes me happy to play more than once.

 

[tiurcer]

Just wondering here, has BlueCat paused Patreon donations at any point in this 9 month delay? I'm curious if there's any pressure and if he hasn't paused how he hasn't lost more patreons.

 

[cavaemon]

Just wondering here, has BlueCat paused Patreon donations at any point in this 9 month delay? I'm curious if there's any pressure and if he hasn't paused how he hasn't lost more patreons.

he has put a pause in a sense. the patreons could change their pledges so that when the time it came to pay they either pay less or none at all from what i read. there is a update a few pages back on that info.