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Dukez
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Bluecat just comes across as a scammer to some degree to me, since his rather dishonest and nothing comes about from their "plans" and there's no legitimate excuse they could tell that would lead to over a year delay when it was *nearly done* back in December for it's planned release last year. Obviously IRL health stuff happened but in the grand scheme of this time it's not a significant piece of the puzzle here.
It still amazes me how even *if* it's purely programming troubles, how BlueCat hasn't ever decided to post some picture previews of upcoming content etc (which wouldn't take much time to procure! Assuming it's not already done??) let alone maybe decide to do a special just to put something out this year?
What a scheme. Looking forward to future longer-than-intended(kappa) delays in the future.
It still amazes me how even *if* it's purely programming troubles, how BlueCat hasn't ever decided to post some picture previews of upcoming content etc (which wouldn't take much time to procure! Assuming it's not already done??) let alone maybe decide to do a special just to put something out this year?
What a scheme. Looking forward to future longer-than-intended(kappa) delays in the future.
BTLD
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Paitryn
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I wouldn't call him a scammer. Dude delivered consistently for a long time before it all fell apart. He just can't seem to handle things when they fall apart well. Something I said a year ago still stands, even if they are too stubborn to admit it. There were better solutions to this issue that were just ignored.
Banish
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He isn't a scammer. A scammer would come from time to time delivering some candy eye and sweet words. Here it's almost dead silence if it wasn't for the poor PR guy (skummy) that seems to now suffering from mental disorder having to answer the same question thousands times. I can almost hear his broken recorded voice in my brain.
That whole span of a year without any updates hurts him too much to be called a scammer. Still, the management behind this game is..almost as chaotic as was cyberpunk 2077 and the patches behind. I am not sure how it is possible for such a long time to pass without finding a viable solution, the only thing it can be called is a human failure on gargantuan level.
That whole span of a year without any updates hurts him too much to be called a scammer. Still, the management behind this game is..almost as chaotic as was cyberpunk 2077 and the patches behind. I am not sure how it is possible for such a long time to pass without finding a viable solution, the only thing it can be called is a human failure on gargantuan level.
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❀ Welcome to BlueCat ❀
GOALS
€2,218.52 - reached! per month
$2500 would be a big milestone for me. I would hire a modder to create new objects and maps, and that would also mean I would be able to distribute my work effort more efficiently because I would no longer have to invest multiple days a month working with Sketchup and Unity.
€2,975
PER MONTH
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... ... !!!
GOALS
€2,218.52 - reached! per month
$2500 would be a big milestone for me. I would hire a modder to create new objects and maps, and that would also mean I would be able to distribute my work effort more efficiently because I would no longer have to invest multiple days a month working with Sketchup and Unity.
€2,975
PER MONTH
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... ... !!!Anyways, moving on, anyone coming into this thread ignore any posts describing Bluecat as a scammer, as you can tell it is just a trolling fun time done by some people who didn't get what they wanted. I lost my temper with them but I'm back to normal as I have come back to remembering to ignore them, classic internet rule. At current the deadline for Latecomer to deliver is by end of year, and after that we will be seeing how things progress.
If you are confused, just look back to any of my other informational posts, I've made plenty. I will be here to keep everyone informed on the status of the merge as and when information becomes fully available. As it is the holiday season I have been busy and not able to keep as up to date as I should have. Apologies.
Everything will be fine no matter how this all pans out, and once things progress to the deadline, I'll let you all know what's going to happen based on if Latecomer pulled through or not.
Stay Honest, Stay Ecchi!
~Skummy Out
If you are confused, just look back to any of my other informational posts, I've made plenty. I will be here to keep everyone informed on the status of the merge as and when information becomes fully available. As it is the holiday season I have been busy and not able to keep as up to date as I should have. Apologies.
Everything will be fine no matter how this all pans out, and once things progress to the deadline, I'll let you all know what's going to happen based on if Latecomer pulled through or not.
Stay Honest, Stay Ecchi!
~Skummy Out
Banish
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I doubt Latecomer will pull through anything, hope, wish sure but doubt of it. As for what they intend to do after, I hope they didn't wait for some white smoke (like the vatican) to shows off Latecomer's ass to start working on something else. They honestly lost enough time and people's faith to just wait on before acting.
Just had a major crash in week 1 at the point where you get the options to chat with four girls at night or skip. This followed an insane amount of traceback errors all with the option to ignore, which I pressed thinking it would just be one or a few at most. The traceback text is attached.
Looks like an error with the phone system which has been known to be broken for a long time now. Nothing to do but ignore and hope it's fixed once the merge comes out
I guess I'll just have to wait, then. Ignoring is what caused it to crash as in it totally shut down and spat out the file I attached. Thanks for the answer.
Yasuo Reynald
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I'm completly with buddy. I don't understand the rage, the insults and others unpleasant things that can be said here. You're the PR guys and i'm for the policy of "Don't Shoot the messenger". So why should they put the rage they got on you, it's beyond me. anyway, i'm a bit sad about the whole situation, i could be angry but i'm not because i'm pretty sure BC and his team is trying their best and that he's sad too that the merge doesn't come up. But again, that's just my opinion. The merge is the right thing to do, maybe release another Week and work on the merge in parallel, yes that could been a solution but i don't really know a thing in programming, at least with ren'py so i don't know it'll work out.
In the end, we should wait and hope for the best...AND BUY A FUCKING COFFE TO SKUMMI ! He's a great dude and he took all the shots and he didn't deserve all that hatred.
FanOfEcchiSensei
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Being wrong once, I agree. Being wrong twice, I agree. Being wrong 3x, starting to get a little suspicious.
Being wrong and feeding us info that turns out to be wrong (again...), is lying.
You got a little bluecat left on your upper lip, might wanna wipe it off.
You acting like "heh he missed his deadline from 3 days ago, we're chewing him out". No
He's missed his deadline, by OVER A YEAR.
My guy
OVER. A. YEAR. 365+ days. 8.760 hours.
I know if I had a job, and I had a deadline, and delivered over a year late, I'd be fired.
And I don't care whether it's because of Latecomer, or BC himself. The blame still lies 100% with BC, because if it really was Late, 3 months in BC should've gone "Hey buddy, I need to release this game, you're not working on it anymore, not your fault, however I'm going to have to look at alternative options".
Cool, but you still don't get to fucking label is as deceptive, you can be wrong as many times as you want, and still be completely open and honest about the fact you think things are gonna be fine. They are paying the consequences for what is happening, they don't need to also have inaccurate labelling done to them just because you think that honesty is somehow subjective.
Being a hapless idiot who trusts that shit will work out, does not make one a liar when it doesn't. There is no god damn time limit that makes it okay to accuse someone, just because they suck at what they do. You can mock the fact they have been failing to put out a merge for an entire year, attack the fact that they suck at this (I don't blame anyone who does this, cause its true).
This however does not give you license to attack someone's integrity just because you're pissed off, you're building up a strawman argument using a basis of a perceived deception on the part of the developer. What is actually happening is an inexperienced man is floundering as his project fails due to mismanagement of a situation and delays from his lead employee. You know, like a legitimate business will do when it as well begins to go belly up for the same fucking reason and nobody accuses it of being illegitimate.
jamdan
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This game used to make nearly 7k per month. This merge failure is probably the worst self-inflicted wound a developer, or at least a fairly well known one, has ever done.
This entire situation was easily avoided too, there is really no reason to merge the game. There isn't a need for extra stuff like phones or character sheets. And even if you did need that stuff, it's all been done before. So a decent programmer shouldn't have much of an issue. If worst comes to worst, just copy someone else's code from another game.
This entire situation was easily avoided too, there is really no reason to merge the game. There isn't a need for extra stuff like phones or character sheets. And even if you did need that stuff, it's all been done before. So a decent programmer shouldn't have much of an issue. If worst comes to worst, just copy someone else's code from another game.
Dragon59
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Is your name supposed to be ironic?
FanOfEcchiSensei
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But it is deceptive? Unless he pauses pledges until the merge is 100% done and released, it is 100% deceptive towards potential patreons. There is no innacurate labeling done when calling someone who's lied about the state of the game for over a year, a liar.
I for sure hope that after over a year of working on the merge, BC has learned to stop being a "hapless idiot who trusts that shit will work out", and be someone who makes sure shit GETS done.
The merge was "Almost done" in december 2020. We're in december 2021, after being promised the game would be released this year at the expense of charinfo. Only to find out INDIRECTLY, that it's not happening. Not even just "not happening", but not even close (again) as apparently the testers do not even have their hands on an alpha build.
As someone who's been deceived out of money by lies and false promises, (we don't technically pay patreon for the game, however let's be real. We pay for the game) I have the right to be upset.
I did not attack his integrity, I stated that based on experiences the past 1+ year, he's a liar. Which is a proven fact.
No? I would not stick this much time in a game I hate. I am a fan of the game, I just think the developer sucks. Being a fan of the game =/= being a fan of BC. That's like saying if you like a movie, you automatically have to like the producer/director as well.
kiribito
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Why don't the admins just nuke this thread or label it as abandoned? I think many people look into this forum for games to support, and having something like this up without the proper abandoned tag is quite deceiving.
FanOfEcchiSensei
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Because "Abandoned" tag would ruin the last few patreons he gets from this site, every 2.5 months he posts a status update (with pretty much nothing), as the site rule is 3 months with no info from the developer
What's funniest about that is that in his discord, he openly hates on f95 because everyone here is a pirate (even though I'm sure at least half of his support if not more originated from here) so he hasn't actually posted on here for at least the entire merge. Since the last year of "updates" has been paywalled I for one think they shouldn't count as info from the dev that the game should be marked as abandoned. If he really cares enough about us to avoid the tag then let him post here personally with an actual update or at least make an update that isn't paywalled.
If he openly doesn't care about this site then an abandoned tag here shouldn't bother him.