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so has there been any kind of news on whether this is officially dead or not?
i agree with Skummy & say play it, i knew nothing about the game when i decided to try it out the first time, & i loved it, i am now eagerly waiting for the next update.Would anybody actually recommend this game to a total newbie? Is it any good to get a person started in the VN world ;-)
PS: Not just the special, but the main game also?
Not having checked in here for over 6 months i thought I'd take a look, my how far we've come from last time I checked ...lulzI came to see if this was abandoned after noticing the folder for it on my SSD hadn't been updated in forever but I see it isn't tagged as such so I start reading to see whats going on and there is a bunch of back-and-forth about how slow the work is and so on and I'm like ok ok, sure.
But then I look closer and it seems like everyone is just talking about merging the weeks together still, is this the case? is there actually no NEW content being talked about here? just the merge of existing content that has taken 8-9 months?
After such time and given the graphics are basic AF, not even having to wait for DAZ renders or whatever I would have thought month 2 would be nearly complete, not still trying to merge month 1.
I guess if you can get away with making no content for $5k/month then why not right?
Skummy's FMKs actually kept us on topic though, and attempted steer the conversation into a more positive direction about having us talk about our favourite girls. Your ones are just kinda chaotic and random, and don't include anyone that anyone is going to want to fuck or marry, at least at won't admit to it.LOL, you would say that. Skummy, since you like FMK's, heres one for you. I wanna see what you pick.
Fuck, marry, kill. Choose your answers.
Stitch from Lilo and Stitch, Nemo from Finding Nemo, Donkey from Shrek.
To answer you, right now i'd say we're at the stage of artificial life support.so has there been any kind of news on whether this is officially dead or not?
Fine. I'll be more down to earth. Fuck marry kill. Rando, you pick.Skummy's FMKs actually kept us on topic though, and attempted steer the conversation into a more positive direction about having us talk about our favourite girls. Your ones are just kinda chaotic and random, and don't include anyone that anyone is going to want to fuck or marry, at least at won't admit to it.
I'm all for you taking over the daily questions from Skummy, now that he's laying low, but you gotta step up your game.
I'm guessing the mods have given up on thisHow the hell this dead game threat's thriving still?! More fights and banters on convos than content out of 7 pages short from 900. I'm almost sure that BlueCat spends his 1,5 years plus just reading through this abomination in incognito![]()
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Such a joke.
It's getting an update soon! Scummy says it, so it must be true! That guy never ever lies!It would help if they tagged the game properly, but I guess the next patreon post that says a lot of waffle and no substance will stop that from happening for another year or two
Mods are probably sick shit of this too, Blue Cat nearly times his "updates" on patreon to the hour so that the game doesn't get classed as abandoned.I'm guessing the mods have given up on this
It would help if they tagged the game properly, but I guess the next patreon post that says a lot of waffle and no substance will stop that from happening for another year or two
Well played...Fine. I'll be more down to earth. Fuck marry kill. Rando, you pick.
Khloe Kardashian, Kim Kardashian, Kourtney Kardashian. Who would you pick to fuck marry kill out of these three Rando?
not what i wanted to hear, but it is what i new in my heart.To answer you, right now i'd say we're at the stage of artificial life support.
Sigh... gonna have to step in to defend skummy here, I have been lurking in this thread watching and not saying much for about 2 years. Seen and read a lot. Skummy is...not a great PR guy. He tried his dandiest to keep us positive and give us info, and props to him for stepping in front of this garbage fire, but he was also extremely passive aggressive and at times very antagonistic which is a really big no no in PR land and makes me wonder if he was professionally trained. Didn't help matters at all and it's a bad look for the game. Most everything he has said has failed to come to pass but I would not call him a liar. I think he did his job to cover for BCs BS and ultimately had his chain jerked around just as hard as the rest of us. He was given vague ass info and promises to give to us and that info turned to ash. His entire job is to try to keep the community from imploding in negativity, and he is the one left holding the mob at bay when the promises amount to noting. The real issue here was, is, and always has been BCs inability to deliver content for and general refusal to be transparent to development or expenditures for what is essentially a community funded game. Well past the point of absurdity tbh.It's getting an update soon! Scummy says it, so it must be true! That guy never ever lies!![]()
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I'm not professionally trained no, I'm just vaguely aware of a strategy of pacification and in failing that, becoming a shield toward the developer. I fully accept that I would get shit on for it. I am a cunt and willing to fight, but I did honestly make efforts to be nicer about it but when pressure rose, I dropped it again. I enjoy the defense, and respect you standing up to at least protect my credibility even if my technique was fucking horrid. I'll be blunt, I'm just a really big fan who took on a job that I was not qualified for all on my own and impressed it upon my friend.Sigh... gonna have to step in to defend skummy here, I have been lurking in this thread watching and not saying much for about 2 years. Seen and read a lot. Skummy is...not a great PR guy. He tried his dandiest to keep us positive and give us info, and props to him for stepping in front of this garbage fire, but he was also extremely passive aggressive and at times very antagonistic which is a really big no no in PR land and makes me wonder if he was professionally trained. Didn't help matters at all and it's a bad look for the game. Most everything he has said has failed to come to pass but I would not call him a liar. I think he did his job to cover for BCs BS and ultimately had his chain jerked around just as hard as the rest of us. He was given vague ass info and promises to give to us and that info turned to ash. His entire job is to try to keep the community from imploding in negativity, and he is the one left holding the mob at bay when the promises amount to noting. The real issue here was, is, and always has been BCs inability to deliver content for and general refusal to be transparent to development or expenditures for what is essentially a community funded game. Well past the point of absurdity tbh.
Stay on target and lets not waste time shooting messengers. though I agree with the general sentiment here to return to focus.
If we really want to help matters, continue to demand accountability but also try your best to stay on track and celebrate the game for its positives. if we succumb to cynicism and aimless anger then the game is as good as dead anyways regardless of if development is actually happening or not.
I think one of ES's strengths is a balance between light hearted wholesomeness and darker content largely left up to the players choice its a difficult road but straddling this line is the best way to appeal to the varied and at times conflicting tastes of the community and going too far one way or the other would diminish one of the games strengths.If given the chance, would you make Ecchi Sensei far darker? Would you have rathered the older build before Day 3 rework where it was more about trying to juggle everything in a more broad situation? Do you like the kind of on the rails situation it has developed into or would it be nice if in the future it broadens out again? If you could, would you change Matsu? Would you try to bring him down a peg from mary sue to having to answer to consequences?
Would you prefer Ecchi Sensei be different than what it is now? And don't be cheeky about the delays, I mean the game itself not the shit surrounding its development.
Agreed on a lot of points.I think one of ES's strengths is a balance between light hearted wholesomeness and darker content largely left up to the players choice its a difficult road but straddling this line is the best way to appeal to the varied and at times conflicting tastes of the community and going too far one way or the other would diminish one of the games strengths.
I kind of like the idea of juggling everything but i hate the idea of missing out on content so admittedly I intentionally used a mod to give myself false choices and just did all the content anyways so I guess you can say id like it to actually be a bit more on rails so i don't miss time with my fav girls or lock myself out of relationship paths just because I went right instead of left at the street. but i still like the illusion I am making decisions and trying to juggle things.
I do not feel ES should go broad or sand box in its systems, I know that idea was floated around at one point I think time for that has past and ES should maintain its more structured and railroaded story while taking the players choices into account as best s BC can deliver.
I personally don't mind Matsu being overpowered I think its part of the DNA of the game, the time to really change this was a while ago tbh. I would like to see some stark consequences to his actions at some point and I would like to see him get outmaneuvered or beaten once or twice for tension sake provided its done well and you don't have some rando beating him just because, but at this point Matsu is what he is and I would expect him to continue to be so, its part of the power fantasy. if this is to be changed it will need to be done with great care narratively.
as for wanting it to be different then it is now? though newer and better VNs have come along ES is special in its own right maybe that's just nostalgia talking but i really don't want to see dramatic changes in its structure or systems all i really want at the end of the day is a basic merger even if its a bit of a hack job like what dukes did, a continuation of the kind of content we have already received. more of a look into Matsu's messed up backstory, my dark taboo interests tritylated, and more fun wholesome and ecchi adventures with my waifu's and to continue on helping people and saving the day in Matsu's increasingly unbelievable and zany life.
I appreciate what you're trying to do man. But I'll be honest as a programmer what you and Bluecat say looks straight out of a NFT company running a scam.I'm not professionally trained no, I'm just vaguely aware of a strategy of pacification and in failing that, becoming a shield toward the developer. I fully accept that I would get shit on for it. I am a cunt and willing to fight, but I did honestly make efforts to be nicer about it but when pressure rose, I dropped it again
I feel like agreeing with you would feel too self-congratulatory so let me expand on this idea you stated a little more, as I am apparently not the only one who does or intends to use a mod to eventually see all the content in a single playthrough, this might be a simple and easy option that can be placed in a future update of the game that could receive positive reception, a in-built option to disable the branching paths and play all paths with their flags intact similar to the existing mod that is out there, that would be a selectable "cheat" option for those that wish it in the options menu it would be nice if "dark mind" is the same way but its easy to understand how that could be a problem.I’m contrary as far as on-the-rails/off goes because I want the options to choose different stuff but will inevitably use a mod to see/be on all paths.
Skummy, I appreciate all your efforts. I am sure you aren't getting paid enough, if at all, to have to take the heat for Bluecat.I'm not professionally trained no, I'm just vaguely aware of a strategy of pacification and in failing that, becoming a shield toward the developer. I fully accept that I would get shit on for it.
Well, so far this quote he said in October has been true so far.Don't take offense, it's nothing personal. But can you point to a single thing that you have said in the last year that didn't turn out to be completely false?
This merge will be out this year, by which I mean at least a testers version and thus a pirated copy I'm sure, if it isn't that's probably the end of this game most certainly.