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If banging a whole bunch of schoolgirl cuties and their moms is not your thing, cool.
I don't think thats what people are complaining about, every update adds new characters and its new content but old characters are ignores and story barely gets progression. For example Tomoe is one of the first characters you meet and as far we know she is probably still a virgin lol. I don't think people would be complaining if the older characters got some progressions along side new characters being added.
 
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Yes, and there's a good reason Tomoe is virgin. Considering that their clan takes her chastity extremely seriously and the wedding in August will be where Matsu will finally deflower Tomoe (and likely a few of her sisters as well)
 

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Yes, and there's a good reason Tomoe is virgin. Considering that their clan takes her chastity extremely seriously and the wedding in August will be where Matsu will finally deflower Tomoe (and likely a few of her sisters as well)
And don't forget Tomoe have been in to two 3somes with mc and still a virgin mmm orgy at wedding i wonder
 

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I'm not sure how long it has been this way, but BlueCat's Patreon intro-thing says "is creating the biggest and longest visual novel of all time ". So I mean, I guess the project is progressing according to what's advertised to the supporters?

I can kind of understand why some people don't want to watch the MC fuck more and more cute girls of various look, age, and personality but that definitely appeals to me. So far the game is living up to the "Ecchi Sensei" title.
Well, I barely even went into the erotic content, in my review, as it is pretty spread out... With so many different side plots and more characters then you can shake a stick at, post Week 1 is becoming rather diluted... I think it can still do well, with far less characters, especially in the early days since it's supposedly going to go a full year of in-game time... I'm not even sure at this point if it will ever reach that overall goal, as it is going to take probably a decade, or more, to get that far (based off the current trend), unless they really start taking even more story short cuts... If it sticks with it's current average of 2 weeks of content per real year of development, with a goal of 52 weeks of total in-game content, that will be around 25+ years of real development time... I just don't see that really happening...

They are currently receiving around 6 grand a month in donations just from Patreon alone, and they were making bank even a year ago... Even if they ramp up development, which would require hiring more people, what would that do? Maybe cut the total development time in half, so around 10+ years, if they don't opt to take short cuts and downgrade the quality of the overall product more then they already have, with so many active characters and dozens of mini-plots... In order to get the full year of in-game content done in even a semi-realistic time frame...

I really did enjoy the first week of game time, even though I thought the number of characters at that point was already getting rather high... But with so many more characters, and so little content devoted to only a tiny handful of them per game week, you end up just thinning the promising story development of the first week, to a point where the story no longer feels stable and meaningful... Perhaps the developers did have the original intention of just making a porn focused VN with a thinned out story to fill in the gaps... But with as much story telling as we see, between all the erotic stuff, it sure seems like they want to tell a fun and interesting story, rather than just throwing back to back porn at everyone... Yet, because everything is so spread out, with so many characters and etc, the overall story ends up suffering... And if that trend just keeps going, getting thinner and thinner, with more and more pointless characters and tiny side content, then all we'll end up with at some point is a porn fest with lots of pointless text between the scenes...

I'm basing all these observations off what I'm seeing as a current trend... I'm not trying to tell folks to stay away from it... In fact, I want it to be successful, just for all the right reasons and in all the right ways... But I just feel a bit let down, based off my prior experience with week 1 compared to what I'm seeing with the last years worth of content, coupled with the greed like business practices of the developers Patreon site... Are we truly getting 6+ grand a month worth of development? Is the quality as high as their income should suggest? I had high hopes and expectations from this project, based off the previous years content... But will it keep that hope alive, is it keeping that hope alive, or will it slowly tear itself apart in far too many directions?


I don't think thats what people are complaining about, every update adds new characters and its new content but old characters are ignores and story barely gets progression. For example Tomoe is one of the first characters you meet and as far we know she is probably still a virgin lol. I don't think people would be complaining if the older characters got some progressions along side new characters being added.
I see your point, which kind of plays into some of the points I was trying to make... Lets look at Sloth-chan for a moment, she was one of the more unique and fun like characters from Week 1... Yet in Week 2, all we get is her sun bathing on a roof in one image, followed by a few very brief moments of her in the bar and elsewhere... Heck, we get more story and screen time with regards to her sister, another of the many new characters introduced in week 2, then we do with Sloth-chan herself... Don't get me wrong, we do get to see some new content with several of the main characters of Week 1, but it's either not really all that much, or it's just them so happening to be in the same scenes more or less devoted to introducing even more characters... They basically have bit walk-on parts, cameo's if you will...

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If you're not into the idea of fucking many, many schoolgirls/women and would rather only have relations with a few girls while getting to know them over a long period of time then this is not the game for you. Flat out. Not for you. Because there will be more and more girls added as times goes on. And the "story" will not move at anything resembling a brisk pace. There are many, many other games that focus on only a small number of girls and the MC building a relationship with them. Ecchi Sensei is not that game. Ecchi Sensei is about fucking an entire school full of girls and a whole bunch of others as well.

Quality is extremely subjective, so I can't help you there. If you're not enjoying it, that's cool. Cut your ties and go find something else you like. Ecchi Sensei is an extremely unique title that basically nothing else can come even close to matching in terms of sheer content. BlueCat's Patreon has steadily grown, so it's clear at least in the court of their supporters that they're doing a good job.
 
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While I love this game, it has been a complaint of mine for several updates now that they are trying to cram too many girls into the game too quickly, all to just meet some arbitrary target of having the MC involved in sex acts with 100 girls/women.

While that target is not impossible, it is sacrificing story by brushing over several interesting characters just to introduce new ones. I'm starting to get irritated by all the new characters because I don't care for them like I do for the initial ones. And that is because they haven't had enough screen time to develop an interesting backdrop.

Sadly, this game is fast changing from an interesting premise of a story into just a meaningless porno cumshot compilation.
 

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Sorry for being blunt but come on guys, seriously?
Complaining about a free game on a pirate site, This game is by far one of the best games today on this site and as harmking has stated this game will grow even bigger with characters as this is stated in the advertisement and description of this game. I know it's frustrating waiting on content for a particular sex scene to happen with one of your favorite characters but it will come eventually, just like in plenty of other games you will have to wait for sex scenes with a certain character.
Can't really complain about the amount of content in this game considering how frequently it gets updated, and accusing the devs of making it into a money making scheme on a pirate site is kind of hypocritical considering a big majority of people probably don't even pledge to the devs on patreon etc... I wish I could afford to donate to plenty of devs but sadly I can't afford to due to poor health and being unable to work.
Anyway I won't go on any further and just want to say I love this game and really appreciate the work put into it for my and everyone's else's enjoyment thank you devs. P.S sorry for the rant lol :)
 

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Sorry for being blunt but come on guys, seriously?
Complaining about a free game on a pirate site, This game is by far one of the best games today on this site and as harmking has stated this game will grow even bigger with characters as this is stated in the advertisement and description of this game. I know it's frustrating waiting on content for a particular sex scene to happen with one of your favorite characters but it will come eventually, just like in plenty of other games you will have to wait for sex scenes with a certain character.
Can't really complain about the amount of content in this game considering how frequently it gets updated, and accusing the devs of making it into a money making scheme on a pirate site is kind of hypocritical considering a big majority of people probably don't even pledge to the devs on patreon etc... I wish I could afford to donate to plenty of devs but sadly I can't afford to due to poor health and being unable to work.
Anyway I won't go on any further and just want to say I love this game and really appreciate the work put into it for my and everyone's else's enjoyment thank you devs. P.S sorry for the rant lol :)
I completely understand, and it is true, some folks just will not care at all if the initial premise in the first year of development, just devolves... Not all, but I'm sure plenty of folks out there just skip through the story anyway, just to get to the erotic content...

Really, the reason so many folks are buggered about how things are going in the recent year, is that this VN seems to be losing some of it's focus... The first week of in-game content, even though it did have a lot of characters, still had plenty of focused content on most of the primary characters... It showed a lot of promise in how it's story progressed, how it was told, how meaningful it felt with many of the characters... But with the advent of so many new characters, and the latest content only briefly involving a minor amount of story about the characters people fell in love with from Week 1... It feels like this project has in a sense changed gears... Stretching out the story lines for the original characters, into thin wafers, while force feeding us a bunch of other characters that don't feel as well developed as the originals... I would have to hazard a guess that most were never intended to be in the story, and are basically just being added to make some quick cash...

Perhaps some folks want that, and could really care less about the story, or could care less about any promise that first week had... I just think it's a shame the developers are deciding to take what might have been a great story and choosing to instead just milk the project through the selling of custom content voting rights, personalized custom characters, and other money making gimmicks... With the futures only real unique premise of this project being a highly lengthy future of pointless characters thrown at the audience, some occasional short erotic content, a ever thinning main story, and very little else... If it continues like that, eventually the story telling will just become this chaotic mess...

Only reason I looked past the lower quality visuals is because I thought the story in Week 1 was fun and interesting... Week 2's visuals have actually degraded slightly from week 1's visuals, along with the thinning story lines...

I don't hate this VN... But I do feel sorry for what I'm beginning to see happening in both the story telling and the lack of focus... And it shouldn't matter if it's a pirated copy or not... The point of this thread is to have conversations about this project... To talk about the good things, the bad things, or even showing indifference... I'm not asking you to agree with me... Just voicing my thoughts and opinions along side my fellow community members...

Heck, I didn't even mention the other half a dozen websites this VN is posted on, that also makes the developers money, far beyond their Patreon page...

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I completely understand, and it is true, some folks just will not care at all if the initial premise in the first year of development, just devolves... Not all, but I'm sure plenty of folks out there just skip through the story anyway, just to get to the erotic content...

Really, the reason so many folks are buggered about how things are going in the recent year, is that this VN seems to be losing some of it's focus... The first week of in-game content, even though it did have a lot of characters, still had plenty of focused content on most of the primary characters... It showed a lot of promise in how it's story progressed, how it was told, how meaningful it felt with many of the characters... But with the advent of so many new characters, and the latest content only briefly involving a minor amount of story about the characters people fell in love with from Week 1... It feels like this project has in a sense changed gears... Stretching out the story lines for the original characters, into thin wafers, while force feeding us a bunch of other characters that don't feel as well developed as the originals... I would have to hazard a guess that most were never intended to be in the story, and are basically just being added to make some quick cash...

Perhaps some folks want that, and could really care less about the story, or could care less about any promise that first week had... I just think it's a shame the developers are deciding to take what might have been a great story and choosing to instead just milk the project through the selling of custom content voting rights, personalized custom characters, and other money making gimmicks... With the futures only real unique premise of this project being a highly lengthy future of pointless characters thrown at the audience, some occasional short erotic content, a ever thinning main story, and very little else... If it continues like that, eventually the story telling will just become this chaotic mess...

Only reason I looked past the lower quality visuals is because I thought the story in Week 1 was fun and interesting... Week 2's visuals have actually degraded slightly from week 1's visuals, along with the thinning story lines...

I don't hate this VN... But I do feel sorry for what I'm beginning to see happening in both the story telling and the lack of focus... And it shouldn't matter if it's a pirated copy or not... The point of this thread is to have conversations about this project... To talk about the good things, the bad things, or even showing indifference... I'm not asking you to agree with me... Just voicing my thoughts and opinions along side my fellow community members...

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Yeah the biggest hook for me early doors was it was the Sensei, his family, his specific class of students plus a small smattering of random neighbours and friends of the family. Still a sizable cast but a lot of development was given to the characters so whilst you've barely seen say Miku or Neko at all in the entire third week you know who they are and actually a good bit of detail on them from time spent with them in past episodes but most of the new ones - without cheating now answer us this random Ecchi Sensei fans...

What is the name of the girl you bumped into sweeping the corridor that one time?
Or the name of the girl who lost her glasses in the gym?
Or the girl who was running in the corridor and bumped into Sensei?
Or the twins with the horns who are in the martial arts club?
Or the homeless girl?
Without looking them up - do you know who Jenny is? Or Rui? or Reiya?

Maybe we will spend hours with them in next updates but honestly do we care enough about them that we would rather just not bother and instead see more of the delicious red heads next door (Kaede was presented as one of the primary paths you got day one... it was her or Tomoe. Tomoe has since become a marriage prospect to the Sensei and has had oodles of time with him but Kaede has all but vanished without a trace despite being considered one of the what 18 main characters by the OPs own listings). I actually really miss the classes where you of course were not getting sex scenes but Sensei taught and interacted with all of them soon getting an affection for them all and interest in the banned students to expand it. It was a focus which has been dropped since week one often now classes are a one throwaway sentence.

Now don't get me wrong I one hundred percent DISAGREE with this strange sentiment that the dev is milking patrons or money. That couldn't be further from the truth - is the T8s being added en masse over saturating the character list? Yes but I don't grudge either the devs for adding more characters nor the patrons getting a proper legit return for that kind of money (good on them I say) but I do feel its been too much too soon. There are over 30 T8s already and thats more than most fully completely adult games on this site offer lol - why add so many so soon? Why not say 5 per in game week with focus on them to develop them so we want more of them just as much as their own patrons? I think there could be a hundred no issue given how many days the devs are planning on creating for the game so whats the rush.

Execution has been a bit iffy in that regards but you know something it could easily be a case of month one release adding in more scenes to flesh more of them out so its more a case you you see a character and instantly think 'ah her, shes the sister of another love interest and maybe even has the same kink of getting turned on by smell. I know already from proper development that she is a very fast athlete, does not attend the school, has an interest in the sensei and Is potential track and field rival for Mao who has had heavy development in getting back into that'. Ill bet far more of you know straight away just from that who im talking about because of the level of development vs my referencing a different girl sweeping a floor who has gotten none at all.

Whats the incest in this?
Pretty much you think of it and the game provides it from the mother to the daughters to the sister to likely even soon the niece.
 

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That's odd, I'm pretty sure I remember giving Mika a good fuck when Matsu checked out the swim club sometime in week 3? Or I could be misremembering. Kaede is a case where we've fucked her mom and her lil sis and have seen Kaede or she seen us naked twice now, but she is totally uncomfortable with sex. She's not gonna be a quick fuck like some other girls. She's the prim and proper good girl after all. And while we haven't advanced with her sexually yet, it felt damn good telling off her mom finally.

EDIT: Yeah, definitely got some Mika time in week 3.

 
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That's odd, I'm pretty sure I remember giving Miku a good fuck when Matsu checked out the swim club sometime in week 3? Or I could be misremembering. Kaede is a case where we've fucked her mom and her lil sis and have seen Kaede or she seen us naked twice now, but she is totally uncomfortable with sex. She's not gonna be a quick fuck like some other girls. She's the prim and proper good girl after all. And while we haven't advanced with her sexually yet, it felt damn good telling off her mom finally.
Yes there is an Anal scene of all things with Miku at the swim club but after being so predominant in week one you ironically see far less of her after not only guaranteeing her placement at school but also after getting her a job at the club. She goes from constantly meeting the sensei at school and hanging out with Himiko to neither happening anymore (in fact Himiko now only really associates with science club regulars as far as I can tell) but you also no longer Can get scenes where you have dinner with students (like classroom scenes these seem to have been abandoned with instead one sentence references of him eating with certain students).

The anal swim scene just feels out of nowhere - she just happened to be there when you did and with little prompting you talk her into her first ever penetrative experience then quickly bugger off and leave her again lol. Felt the first week at least they were building things up with her, he even had thoughts in regards to corrupting her but it looks like hes already succeeded. She was hinted as being something of a love struck stalker in week 2 as well as using Himiko to get close to him in week one and was dressing slutty to seduce him (as well as getting threatened by Fuyu over her interest In him then too) but all that has been dropped and hes just kinda won already. Shes corrupted, is making less effort and so he doesn't need to nor does the story have to. It was anti-climatic. She was also at Art club arguing with some of the other rarely seen students (T8s no less which was a good thing at least IMO) but I think that was about it week 3 with her.

Ive no issue with the slow build up to finally having sex with her but lets compare her to Tomoe as the game literally made you choose between them at the start on day one. Can we honestly say there has even been close to as much Kaede story and development as there has been with Tomoe? Whom of course has had content featuring everything from secret places to chill with the sensei, multiple threesomes, family dinners, secret BJs at class, several martial arts club scenarios, is a member of the club we're guaranteed to be seeing much more of (as it has also not just got Mao but Fuyu present as well as several other Sensei class reps and a big martial arts content on horizon hes training them up for) or and of course all the dedicated storyline given to the banned students drama.

What has Kaeda had compared to all that? There isnt even much on the horizon for Kaede i can think of. The barely mentioned graffitti vandal? the rarely seen Disciplinary club? (of which when seen tend to be other members instead of her haha) or maybe her family? (who all get plenty of scenes and often are seen with each other but rarely her). I suppose defending her over her mothers jibes is a start but not seeing how it can develop into any big storyline going forward nor with Aki manager arc, same with shower scenes so far or the first kiss. Not a lot going on that i can see but thats just my opinion. Maybe BC simply is more passionate about writing other characters who have a bit more definded characteristsics to build on.
 
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Still not giving up on a hope to turn Fuyu into my personal cum dumpster by progressing her corruption story. But I guess creator gave up on that path D:
 

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ok folks i am not going to say the devs are milking there patrons or story is bad or anything cuz i dont even played the first day (i am not going to play it with the current pacing and the gaol set for this game to be completed omg)

i have read zippitys review and comments from them i have the feeling that this Game/VN is going to take like atleast 24 years to complete 12 if dev hire like a dozen of peaple(and thats not gonna happen)

i am like free 24/7 free due to this covid-19 situation so i play these VNs more often. otherwise i am a student and i focus on my studies then these VNs but play them time to time. But next year i am going graduate and will find some work and get busy in my practical life and if i played this VN i am going miss this one because i will have no time for this shit. the reason why i am telling you this is cuz this is the story of every other player in this site. i mean only a few of you going to die while reading a VN others are gonna move to their lives get busy

so if some one is here for only meaningless sex scenes then this VN is good for you but if you are here for the story then i have a feeling either this VN is going to be abandoned or take like 20 years to complete(ofcourse with the current development pacing)

i personally pass on this one cuz i dont like uncompleted stories

sorry for my engrish not my native language
 
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It just came to me if you got the dm patch your basically fucking under age girls mmmmm and you get rape to so there that as well . back to fixing my broken cock tks to this game oh who your favorite characters so far my r Fuyu,Tomore,Tara and Ina
 

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So i have completed day 14 and moving on to day 15, but the dark mind patch doesn't have day 15-21 patch, it has 15-17,18-19 and 20-21, what should i download?
 
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