cakeny

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...?? so this next update is gonna be equally long as the whole game up to now?? a whole month?? that would actually be worth the wait (n better follow up on the rape tag this game has)
The rape already exists in game. You have option to rape the bigger of the two girls in nurse's office when she is lying on the examination table. Nurse then uses drug to make her forget about it.

He addressed this in Month 1: Status Report 7

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Here we are again, and this time I'm telling you about our compression methods because many of you are worried that the file size of Month 1 is going to be huge.

As you might remember, Week 1 has been released in 3 different versions. A heavily compressed version totaling around 1.5 GB, a 4.5 GB version, and an uncompressed 17 GB version.

Because many people have complained about the 17 GB size of Ecchi Sensei's Week 1, even though two much smaller versions were available to download, with the only difference being image quality, there will be no uncompressed version of Month 1.

We will be using the compression method which we have used to great success in the most recent updates. There is almost no noticeable impact on the image quality (with the only real noticeable loss of quality on images with dark backgrounds) and you don't need to wait for hours and hours to get to play Month 1.

I don't want to make any promises, but I'm quite optimistic to guess that Month 1 will probably be smaller than the uncompressed version of Week 1.

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Boo to not having uncompressed version. If people don't like it they can use the compressed version, don't make us have lower quality images.
 
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The rape already exists in game. You have option to rape the bigger of the two girls in nurse's office when she is lying on the examination table. Nurse then uses drug to make her forget about it.
i know, n was 1 of my fav scenes in the game...that's what i meant by "following up on"; if ur gonna have rape as a tag, gotta have more than just 1 scene. so many girls to rape, so little time
 
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Boo to not having uncompressed version. If people don't like it they can use the compressed version, don't make us have lower quality images.
Most images you see anywhere are using some sort of compression, jpg, png, gif are all compressed images. Many of these games are using newer formats like webp which allows for crazy size reductions without much detail loss, especially in games like this that are using Honey Select or Daz for images. You are probably not gong to notice any difference unless you download one of the even more compressed versions that will probably be available.
 
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i know, n was 1 of my fav scenes in the game...that's what i meant by "following up on"; if ur gonna have rape as a tag, gotta have more than just 1 scene. so many girls to rape, so little time
Im curious is hes given up on that kink - Sloth chan, the girl who has the sleep everywhere disorder, the tramp, the ditzy idol wannabe... so many times he could have gone further but doesnt. Still its not the only scene though

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Im curious is hes given up on that kink - Sloth chan, the girl who has the sleep everywhere disorder, the tramp, the ditzy idol wannabe... so many times he could have gone further but doesnt. Still its not the only scene though

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I get the impression it will become more of a thing once Crazy Nurse gets her lab set up. Along with all the other fucked up kinks that would fit there.
 

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I get the impression it will become more of a thing once Crazy Nurse gets her lab set up. Along with all the other fucked up kinks that would fit there.
Maybe but her scenes with the girls tend to be very different in tone to the two discussed as its more mind control than anything else making them complaint and emotionless in all honesty. I personally think her story will be more of that kind of thing vs what the other fella was asking for more of, she turned an entire party into an orgy and no one came out of it with any regrets after all.
 

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Maybe but her scenes with the girls tend to be very different in tone to the two discussed as its more mind control than anything else making them complaint and emotionless in all honesty. I personally think her story will be more of that kind of thing vs what the other fella was asking for more of, she turned an entire party into an orgy and no one came out of it with any regrets after all.
One of the women did come out of it feeling uncomfortable. The classy looking new teacher. One loved it though. I can't remember there names. But otherwise, yeah, it'll probably be mostly that.

Man, I wish that scene was optional. You fuck a bunch of women for the first time in that scene, but it all feels meaningless because no one remembers it or is in their right mind, so I ended up feeling robbed of those first times. I think stuff like that is why I don't Crazy Nurse, her antics tend to rob scenes of narrative weight.

Like when you rape Haruka. It's a really dark scene that has zero impact cause Crazy Nurse just mind wipes her rendering the entire thing narratively pointless.
 
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Im curious is hes given up on that kink - Sloth chan, the girl who has the sleep everywhere disorder, the tramp, the ditzy idol wannabe... so many times he could have gone further but doesnt. Still its not the only scene though

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ur rite, i remember that, but 2 things...1, that was in the flashback storyline, which i'm not interested in; 2, she had been wanting him 2 fuck her something fierce, so he only did that hoping she wouldn't wanna fuck him after that...so not really rape, or at least the intent of it
 

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ur rite, i remember that, but 2 things...1, that was in the flashback storyline, which i'm not interested in; 2, she had been wanting him 2 fuck her something fierce, so he only did that hoping she wouldn't wanna fuck him after that...so not really rape, or at least the intent of it
no that was 100% rape in everyway and form. i know porn games have a very weird sense of consent sometimes when it comes to corruption and tsundere stuff where the person actually is consenting to the act but is acting like they do want it due to pride or whatever reason but that was just straight up rape. also that scene is very annoying to me to be honest because it was not only unnecessary but the actual description and end visual of the consensual sex that happened afterwards just seemed way hotter tham the actual h-scene that we got and is what i wish we got instead of that scene
 
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Forgot about that one.
see, that's what i'm saying...b/c it's in the backstory timeline, i think it's forgettable to majority of players, for those who even bother w/the backstory instead of ignoring it. but i'm glad 2 see this many responses 2 the rape tag, i can only hope BlueCat or whoever his go-between is on this site (since his profile seems 2 have disappeared here) notices how many of us want more of this tag...like they say, for every 1 person that voices an opinion, there's at least 10 more who feel the same way
 
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I'm not pushing for more or less rape, but I think if we're going to have it, it should carry more weight than it currently does. Crazy Nurse robbing any scene of it's narrative weight is my issue.
agreed...girls need 2 remember what happened 2 them so they can have appropriate reactions when it happens 2 them again, n eventually succumb 2 their carnal needs, n help the MC recruit more girls into his harem by doing the same thing 2 them (w/some help from Fuyu n Tomoe of course :devilish: )
 

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The merge addresses pretty much every complaint within the game. "File Size, Save Incompatibility" etc...
We knew it was going to take this long as their goal back in June was for this to be released by the end of the year.
I will just say I am highly skeptical. I'll bet after the next release we will still have many menu elements not working, most of the bios blank or missing, and the same problems we have all seen. Is there any reason I should believe what the devs are telling us?

Honestly, looking at other VNs here, ES is a disaster. The content is great, and it is fun to play, but it is a buggy mess. Has anyone here played a game with as many problems as this one? Remember how hard it was to update and get the saves to register the new updates? I had to play the first few days over and over again, just to get the updates to start. I have never had this issue in the 100s of other VNs I have played.

Finally the devs gave up and eliminated all saves between versions. Does anyone know any other game that has done this? Honestly, the devs should be embarrassed. They should scrap 90% of the code and make it a straight VN and just release content. We will all be much happier. What is the point of multiple 1000s of lines of code if it doesn't do anything useful for the player?

The fact of the matter is that ES is a simple straightforward VN, and since it is using Illusion assets, requires no rendering time, so the scenes take about 1/100 the time as a typical VN to produce. This game should be knocking out updates every few weeks. Development was pretty decent at the beginning. The fact that they have added team members, and development has slowed to a crawl, should concern everyone that likes this VN.

Several of my favorite VNs only release every 6 months, so I am used to long delays. However, the devs of those games are active in the forums, honest about what they are doing, and they have months of labor setting up the scenes, perfecting the lighting, and countless hours of rendering, so I get it and am happy to wait patiently. None of this is required in ES. All you need is some quick posing in PH, take a screenshot, and write the dialog, add in some minimal coding, since honestly, the choices are very simple here, and done.

Radio silence of over 30 days, almost 60 days? Completely unacceptable. Unless the entire dev team is in the hospital without internet, it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to log into Patreon and write a quick note "Hey everyone, we are still working on the update and hope for a February release. We are about 60% done, etc., etc." or "Due to unforeseen issues, we will have to delay another month, I hope to have more to say in a few weeks."

Total silence since the end of December? Hmm. Maybe the dev team decided they have better things to do than work on this game.

As I said, proofreading, that is what is taking forever.
Right, proofreading. Is the game written in Navajo? Any competent English / German speaker can proofread the entire dialog in 1 or 2 days. This isn't "War and Peace".
 

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I will just say I am highly skeptical. I'll bet after the next release we will still have many menu elements not working, most of the bios blank or missing, and the same problems we have all seen. Is there any reason I should believe what the devs are telling us?

Honestly, looking at other VNs here, ES is a disaster. The content is great, and it is fun to play, but it is a buggy mess. Has anyone here played a game with as many problems as this one? Remember how hard it was to update and get the saves to register the new updates? I had to play the first few days over and over again, just to get the updates to start. I have never had this issue in the 100s of other VNs I have played.

Finally the devs gave up and eliminated all saves between versions. Does anyone know any other game that has done this? Honestly, the devs should be embarrassed. They should scrap 90% of the code and make it a straight VN and just release content. We will all be much happier. What is the point of multiple 1000s of lines of code if it doesn't do anything useful for the player?

The fact of the matter is that ES is a simple straightforward VN, and since it is using Illusion assets, requires no rendering time, so the scenes take about 1/100 the time as a typical VN to produce. This game should be knocking out updates every few weeks. Development was pretty decent at the beginning. The fact that they have added team members, and development has slowed to a crawl, should concern everyone that likes this VN.

Several of my favorite VNs only release every 6 months, so I am used to long delays. However, the devs of those games are active in the forums, honest about what they are doing, and they have months of labor setting up the scenes, perfecting the lighting, and countless hours of rendering, so I get it and am happy to wait patiently. None of this is required in ES. All you need is some quick posing in PH, take a screenshot, and write the dialog, add in some minimal coding, since honestly, the choices are very simple here, and done.

Radio silence of over 30 days, almost 60 days? Completely unacceptable. Unless the entire dev team is in the hospital without internet, it doesn't take more than 5 minutes to log into Patreon and write a quick note "Hey everyone, we are still working on the update and hope for a February release. We are about 60% done, etc., etc." or "Due to unforeseen issues, we will have to delay another month, I hope to have more to say in a few weeks."

Total silence since the end of December? Hmm. Maybe the dev team decided they have better things to do than work on this game.



Right, proofreading. Is the game written in Navajo? Any competent English / German speaker can proofread the entire dialog in 1 or 2 days. This isn't "War and Peace".
Did I say dialogue? No, proofreading all the code works and won't be, as you put it, a buggy mess. This is a massive ass bundle of code, they want to go over it to make sure it all functions correctly this time around. Because yes it was a fucking nightmare individually and they're fixing all the known issues all at once, because we as the Patrons told them to do it that way since the beginning. I've been subscribed to this since near to the start, I have always favored them doing all the hard stuff up front and dealing with the pain in one massive pill than spreading it out, as have many others. This is what that choice looks like, crappy but completely acceptable and professional, fulfilling what we told them to do as a whole.

It's fine to have issues with the game, by all means it is your opinion, but there are still plenty of inferior products out there, and potential amazing titles which take a year just to update to add some shitty little bits and pieces. At least this once has a track record of producing, and has am ambitious goal of 365 full in game days, which requires better foundation than the rickety ass shit they were working with.

You don't have to be convinced of jack shit, one way or another the merge will end and shit will resume as normal, this isn't fucking about with content. This is fixing all the major shit that's wrong with the system as a whole, and ensuring it doesn't break the moment a stray gust of wind blows on through. Naturally that's a fair bit harder than playing around with models and lighting, considering when you fix one bug five more take its place.

The silence is a very reasonable answer: There is nothing to say, there is no timeframe, its done when its done. You do not need to be kept abreast of a situation which has two developments: not being done, and then being done.
 

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I'm not a coder, dev or anything. I just made a few batch files and some homepages, so its maybe not the same but...proofreading code? I never did such nonsense. I just started it and looked for any errors. Most errors hint pretty exactly where they are, what is missing, what is wrong linked/named or which command has a typo or is just messed up. You must be pretty insane to proofread code if you get any info you need by just test/play it. Thats at least my train of thoughts on this matter ^^

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I played many games with far more bugs than ES...honestly, i dont even remember running into a bug here, except for the sms error (wich could be solved by save and load before checking the phone) and the savegame problems between versions...other than those two i was lucky ^^
Wanna see a really bugged game? Try bastard girls (the first try the dev gave up, not the remake). There are many more, but i dont remember names of games i deleted from my PC, just this one because of the remake ^^

But i agree, the dev should at least give a little hint about any progress, otherwise people might think the 4441,40€ monthly are enough to enjoy the tropical sunset without caring for the game anymore...
 
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