Dorfnutter

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haven't played OIAL yet. is it referenced in Eternum a lot ?
Well, they take place in the same universe, for one...

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...tho by "several years," Cari meant "more than a decade." There's a timeline posted on his Discord that he vetted that mentioned OIAL took place about 13-14 years prior to Eternum.

Also, yes, there are references. Former President Stabb being mentioned in Orion's intro monologue was reference to an important side character in OIAL; The Sons of Astaroth - the bad guys of OIAL - were mentioned during one of Orion's convos with Alex and in a newspaper article back at the Red Herring; Orion mentioned learning his massaging skills from a guy he saw, which is heavily implied to be a side character that the OIAL MC meets (a Thai who worked as a bodyguard for one of the LIs in one of her parties); Hiromi - a side character in OIAL - was namedropped by the two courtesans/prostitutes back in that unnamed server that Orion and Caly found themselves in back in 0.3; The aphrodisiac "Ember's Moan" which Akira used on Nova and Orion during the college party was from a town that the OIAL MC visited in the main story and was used twice in the game - one for a gag, the other for a threesome scene.

Those are just the references that I recall but there's likely to be more in the future.

Also OIAL essentially established that magic exists in the setting and that people in the setting like the OIAL MC can experience dreams that are heavily implied to be out-of-body experiences...which basically are the seeds Cari have planted and are now reaping for use in Eternum.
 
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would MC needs to go back to the UK to graduate there and come back ? if that's the case, a time skip will make it irrelevant.
Unless the UK has different rules when it comes to their exchange student program I'm pretty sure you still need to be enrolled at a school there in order to avail said program. So Orion, Chang, and Annie still have to go back to finish their studies there before they can go wherever they wish afterwards (like Penny's college in Orion's case).

yeah, sorry, i thought you referred to another dream with her.
what i meant by projections are not astral projections, but Idriel "simply" projecting images in MC's mind when he is unconscious, and not forcing out of body experiences to bring MC to her.
and now that his actual body is injured and dying, it's not just his astral body that needs to be sent to Eternum. so if we expand on your 4th theory, they keep MC real body in the hospital and MC astral body is in Eternum to do the quest but he is stuck in the game and reach a state similar to Thanatos, while still having the option to wake up when his body is healed much later.
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I'm not even sure a near death experience would be enough. being confronted by the girls might be a stronger wake up call.
But if that were to happen while Orion is still sorting his feelings then it'll be a fucking shitshow and might end up breaking the group. No, Orion needs to be at the very least sure about how he feels before he makes the commitment. It might not happen in a reflection event, but it needs to happen prior to the confrontation so that Orion can give them his honest and heartfelt thoughts on the matter (which will likely be what sways the girls to form the harem).
 

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Unless the UK has different rules when it comes to their exchange student program I'm pretty sure you still need to be enrolled at a school there in order to avail said program. So Orion, Chang, and Annie still have to go back to finish their studies there before they can go wherever they wish afterwards (like Penny's college in Orion's case).


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But if that were to happen while Orion is still sorting his feelings then it'll be a fucking shitshow and might end up breaking the group. No, Orion needs to be at the very least sure about how he feels before he makes the commitment. It might not happen in a reflection event, but it needs to happen prior to the confrontation so that Orion can give them his honest and heartfelt thoughts on the matter (which will likely be what sways the girls to form the harem).
You do realize that Carb is probably just teasing/trolling us a bit right with those statements? I'd take it with a grain of salt, and dish of Alex on the side.
 

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I agree and after this update she has over taken Alex for spot of best lewd scene in my books. Now I just cant decide who fucked Orion better her or Penny.
Nova is more active and takes initiatives, there are several rounds and it lasts longer. after her first orgasm, a flip is switched. Penny lets herself be fucked, passively, after MC takes over, everything rides on MC's energy and in game world time it lasts 10 minutes only. both scene are very hot, but if you want to decide who fucked MC better, then Nova wins hands down just for the fact that she actually does until there is nothing left of both of them :D
 

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She'll be hacking all of the medical companies and "Big Pharma" for all of the treatments, cures and technology they hide away and reserve for the self-anointed "elites" to try to get him fixed and back on his feet faster.

While she's at it, she'll release the cures for all cancers, diabetes, and other diseases that it pays more to treat than to cure, on multiple open forums so that smaller companies can produce them and crash the bio-med-pharma cabal keeping everyone sick. ;)
She can do that from MC's bed
 
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Unless the UK has different rules when it comes to their exchange student program I'm pretty sure you still need to be enrolled at a school there in order to avail said program. So Orion, Chang, and Annie still have to go back to finish their studies there before they can go wherever they wish afterwards (like Penny's college in Orion's case).


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But if that were to happen while Orion is still sorting his feelings then it'll be a fucking shitshow and might end up breaking the group. No, Orion needs to be at the very least sure about how he feels before he makes the commitment. It might not happen in a reflection event, but it needs to happen prior to the confrontation so that Orion can give them his honest and heartfelt thoughts on the matter (which will likely be what sways the girls to form the harem).
I don't know the UK system in detail. that student exchange program could be like an internship in a company, set at the end of the school year and lasts until graduation. going back would be just to get the paper diploma. MC arrives during the school year in the US, it didn't seem like the beginning of a new school year.

it's all magic, so by definition, nothing is "weird"

those comments from Caribdis sure that trolling us hard. and he is right. what about Chang?! will MC's fate seal the outcome with Micaela too ? :p

I enjoy drama in AVNs. so a shitshow would be welcomed :) especially for manwhore MC being forced to deal with the consequences of their choices when he is not ready at all. You can resolve it later, because it is also something that MC could need to sort out his feelings. You don't know the real value of something until you no longer have it, that kind of reasoning.

I would also be interested by stories that would have some drama that bumps the MC out of a LI's path, back to the friendzone, for it to have opportunities to jump back on the path. In all the VNs I played through, it's always choices that ejects you from the path, but nothing to come back afterwards. if there is a "come back" story, the drama happened before the beginning of the game
 
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What is the worst thing a killer robot can do to you?

Ask you uncomfortable and awkward questions at gunpoint?
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Threaten to terminate you with extreme prejudice?
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Nope, the worst thing a killer robot can do is sing "Daisy Bell" before it does any of that.
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I enjoy drama in AVNs. so a shitshow would be welcomed :) especially for manwhore MC being forced to deal with the consequences of their choices when he is not ready at all. You can resolve it later, because it is also something that MC could need to sort out his feelings. You don't know the real value of something until you no longer have it, that kind of reasoning.

I would also be interested by stories that would have some drama that bumps the MC out of a LI's path, back to the friendzone, for it to have opportunities to jump back on the path. In all the VNs I played through, it's always choices that ejects you from the path, but nothing to come back afterwards. if there is a "come back" story, the drama happened before the beginning of the game
The problem with this is that Cari isn't exactly known for writing heavy drama in his work (hell, his last work basically didn't had THAT much drama, and stuck through its comedy-adventure fest story for the most part). And by heavy I mean the kind of shit that leads to ongoing conflicts or drama that spans throughout the update or multiple updates like the ones in other AVNs like, say, Leap of Faith or Summer's Gone or STWA: Unbroken. Nor do his patrons back on his Discord want to see it go that route, as they view Eternum as more of an adult mystery adventure story with dashes of comedy, horror, and drama (with the lewds as a sort of "bonus"). And knowing Cari he'll likely not overextend the heaviness of his work and will only use drama when the plot requires it, and not the other way around like in some AVNs where the drama IS the plot.
 
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