VN Ren'Py Onhold Evermore [v0.5.1] [Prometheus]

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txe320 said:
In a lot of games, we see a girl giving blowjobs and the MC telling how skills she is, but she's either a virgin and never sucked a dick before, or she was with 1 or 2 partners. So, it's not uncommon.

Also, the fact she says MC is so good at this can be a lot of things, doesn't imply she was with a lot of people too.

I don't say I'm 100% right and you are 100% wrong, maybe I'm wrong or not, but with what we know dans with what we can interpret, nothing makes me believe that Melanie was with a lot of people.

Lot of possibilites here, maybe she had a boyfriend with whom she did some things but her betrayed her really bad? Maybe not? We don't know exactly but it's look like she doesn't have a ton of sexual experience like you said. We didn't see dialog about MC knowing Melanie has some boyfriends, her mom also never said something about her daughter's dating live, so we don't know for sure. At most, she probably has little to some experience, if my understanding is correct.

For the MC, you see him differently when he moved, but it's still very plausible that subconsciously he was afraid and/or didn't want to let people in his life. The fact that he was in love with his sisters can also play in that mindset, again like I said, subconsciously.
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Tiur said:
You are making some pretty strong assumptions based on pure speculation that is unsupported in the game so far.

Knowing Prom, it is very highly likely that Melanie IS a virgin. His comments about her in Discord confirm it, too: in response to someone asking for her to have a genital piercing, he specifically said she wouldn't have let anyone outside the family near her pussy. Also, even in the highly unlikely event that she is not, dialogue will not bring it up, because it's not going to be relevant to the story if she isn't.

Age doesn't give you an answer about virginity... We have confirmed virgins significantly older than Melanie. There is even a character literally multiple thousands of years old who has retained her virginity specifically to give to the MC.
Apparent experience also doesn't give you an answer about virginity, because porn exists. I have personally been with two definitively-confirmed virgins who were quite good at BJs/HJs due to having watched porn, and one of them was significantly more experienced at cunnilingus than I am, but was still a virgin.

What can give you some hints here about what is likely:
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Fundamentally, Prom is a harem fan, and was one before starting this game. He is not likely to make very many of those fuckups devs commonly make when they're trying to cater to harem fans without understanding harem games, so there's no reason to start in with unfounded speculation. For that matter, you could always... ask him. He's generally pretty forthcoming with things that aren't vitally important plot spoilers. That's how we know what Dawnchaser is, what it's like, and who is in it, and why we know that that one weird cuck-obsessed dude who's been ranting about the Dawnchaser MC inevitably cucking the Evermore MC is so full of shit... Prom is open and honest about his games.
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I didn't claim that Melanie was not a virgin anymore. I only said that her behavior doesn't match the fact that she is very guarded against people, and was since they were kids. and that behavior would suggest that she COULD have lost her virginity before, but it would be very surprising for the same reason.
even if she is naturally gifted and very open, and especially eager with MC, there should be signs of shyness or hesitation if she did all that for the first time. she could have practiced all that by herself, or with porn, sure. but still, when it actually happens for the first time, there are signs. you could dismiss it all by saying "hey, porn/AVN logic" but i instead link it to a promiscuous lifestyle that contrasts far too much with her main personality trait. maybe the dev wanted to give her too much of the big sister trope. it would be better, for me, if she was very eager because of her feelings for MC, very motivated but still a bit clumsy/sloppy. it wouldn't change the character. and MC having no one to compare it to could just like it and appreciate it a lot.
it doesn't break the game anyway. it's just a detail that i found surprising.

Reyna being a virgin is also surprising to me. maybe the dev officially said it, i don't know. but from what i understood in the game, she already had some experience from the first god of creation.

Titania has children, so she probably isn't a virgin. maybe she is in regards to human dicks though.

Marianne, nothing in the game confirms her virginity. did the dev say anything official ? when MC has sex with her, it doesn't seem like it's her first time.

I think it is implied that Aria gave her virginity to MC in later interactions, even though she seemed experienced in the first scene. and she spent all her time with her brother, and pretty much has a brother complex. at least, that's how i understood it.

Chloe, given the kind of life she had up until MC, it's pretty much guaranteed that she is a virgin. Bella has more chances of not being a virgin than Chloe, honestly :D

I think there could be a scene with Melanie and Layla. or a threesome with MC.
 
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stargate1979 said:
Will scenes be forced. I rejected a couple and ended up towards the end of the game being involved with them (No Choice)?
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I won't take a position regarding the other girls, I will see with time, but regarding Reyna and Marianne, I am of the same opinion, it seems unlikely, after they have served the old god, that they are still virgin.
For Chloe, same opinion.
 
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Ekzou said:
I won't take a position regarding the other girls, I will see with time, but regarding Reyna and Marianne, I am of the same opinion, it seems unlikely, after they have served the old god, that they are still virgin.
For Chloe, same opinion.
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Look, I will settle this once and for all. This information came straight to me from the dev, but the details are pretty spoilery, so I'll summarize: Reyna, Marianne, Titania, Melanie, and Bella are all confirmed virgins (Marianne and Titania until the MC scenes currently in the game, obvs). Aria was not. Luci is not, but she's never been with anyone other than the MC in her own original timeline. I never asked about Chloe because I assumed she was, and there hasn't been any indication that she wasn't.
 
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Tiur said:
I never asked about Chloe because I assumed she was, and there hasn't been any indication that she wasn't.
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She indirectly supports the claim that she is. The rest of the people in the town avoid her, and those that don't she doesn't let in.

I second laying the virgin conversation to rest. Anyone who finds it hard to believe thousand year old gods can stay virgins have some weird criteria for realism given it's a fantasy-fiction story with inter-dimensional beings, gods, and Santa Claus as a murderous psychopath...
 
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slick97 said:
She indirectly supports the claim that she is. The rest of the people in the town avoid her, and those that don't she doesn't let in.

I second laying the virgin conversation to rest. Anyone who finds it hard to believe thousand year old gods can stay virgins have some weird criteria for realism given it's a fantasy-fiction story with inter-dimensional beings, gods, and Santa Claus as a murderous psychopath...
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If someone desperately needs to know the reason for any of the ones I confirmed above, they can DM me. But, yeah, people get really hung-up on "realism" when it comes to that, no matter how batshit crazy the rest of the game is.
 
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stargate1979 said:
Back to my original question. Are scenes forced.? First one I encountered was Reyna, Second was Emily. As far as my choices went I closed her path, mainly since I'm not into her. Suddenly I'm banging her.
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Yeah those scenes are forced. Prom said (at one point) that his intention is to make everything a choice, however some scenes are forced for story purposes (go figure). I don't know if that will change in the future as he reworks some things.
 
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If someone desperately needs to know the reason for any of the ones I confirmed above, they can DM me. But, yeah, people get really hung-up on "realism" when it comes to that, no matter how batshit crazy the rest of the game is.
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it's not about realism. it's about what was told in the game. expecting coherence and consistency according to the rules of the world in a fantasy setting. for example, Reyna has served the previous god of creation for years before he sacrificed himself. she knows and does what MC likes even before he knows it himself. her service included sexual service. it's not explicitly said, but it's highly likely that her virginity was taken by the previous god. there is still a small chance she could be a virgin, but in that intimate moment with MC, she could have easily mentioned it. it's mostly an inference with available information. the dev might have confirmed her virginity outside of the game, but for now in the game there is nothing. the same way, we can infer that the previous god refused her pregnancy, as she sexually served him for years, she most likely has absorbed a ton of semen and still didn't have a child. elf fertility is low, but not that low. she didn't confirm it, but we can speculate.
same for Marianne, she willingly lets herself get used and dominated by MC. but she is very thorough, as a character. if she was a virgin, she would have mentioned it to MC because it would affect the quality of her service to him. she is not thousands of years old, the game says she is in her 30s, but it's still enough to at least have some experience and/or some research in sex. it's speculation, but it's based on what is available in the game. again, the dev confirmed her virginity outside of the game, but there is nothing in the game itself.
Titania has children. in a fantasy setting, her race could maybe have kids without sex, but to have kids with MC she immediately jumps on his dick. nothing is explained, so you can speculate that the way she has kids is through sex. she behaves like she is inexperienced with a human dick, though. that would be the only clue that she could be a virgin, but it might just be her first human dick while she had dicks from other races before. until it is explicitly explained in the game that she can have kids without sex, then we can only use the information available in the game which is that she had sex to have the kids she already has, which is also speculation admittedly as those kids might not be hers, and she only refers to them as hers because she is the queen.
if he wants to make their virginity official, why not put it clearly in the game ? it's just a single line of text for each.
LI virginity status is important for a part of the AVN community, so he might have confirmed it because of that, and to make the characters more appealing to fans. I personally don't care, I just want the character history to enjoy the story. MC could be their first, or they could have spent thousands of years getting railed non stop in brothels, I don't care, it's part of their story, I accept it as fact to get a better understanding of the character and how they interact with the others.
 
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HiP1 said:
it's not about realism. it's about what was told in the game.
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If you want to know the answers to the questions you have assumed incorrect answers about, feel free to DM me. If it really isn't a hang-up about LI virginity on your part, then there's no need to engage about it in a public forum, and yet you did.
 
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Hey, @ Everyone

So, I have some bad news... After many, many hours of consideration and self-reflection, I feel it is time for me to step away from creating AVNs for an indefinite period of time. I recently had to get my first full time job and I will be starting my career. I thought about doing this while cutting down on the hours I put into development, but I honestly can't see where I'd even fit those hours once I start working. I have obligations outside work that take up some time and it was somewhat manageable (albeit difficult) when I was working part time, but now, there wouldn't be enough hours in a day.

I appreciate all the support I've received the last three years and I’ve had a lot of fun making it. While being a dev could be stressful and hard at times, I met a lot of great people and it’s been a great experience. That’s to say, I am not taking this decision lightly and it’s something I’ve given a lot of thought to. I always fully intended on completing the game, but AVN development is very time consuming, especially when you try and give it your all to improve the quality over time. Unfortunately, the responsibilities of regular life have gotten in the way and I had to cut something somewhere, my choices at this point are basically: AVN Development vs Family and my Future (Both career wise and in terms of my personal life).

However, whether I finish the game as an AVN or not, this will not be the end of Evermore. I still fully intend to see the story through to the end because of how much I love it, though it’ll likely be in a different medium. Thank you for the support, and thank you for the understanding.

It’s been fun, Prometheus
 
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Damn, so the dev is done making AVNs.... they said its not the end of Evermore but they just started their first full-time job and need to focus on that.
Would be amazing if they let another dev take over the bulk of the work and they still just write here and there to keep the story going. This is one of my all times favorites and it sucks to see it go but I get where the Dev is coming from Personal Life comes first Screenshot 2024-06-03 193549.png
 
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Damn, I discovered it recently and I really enjoyed it. I was really looking forward to it because it's started to become really good and interesting.

Sad news.
 
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