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weeb7

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A quick reminder, this is how it started:

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How it's going:
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These few pictures sum up what i spent paragraphs of wasted time trying to explain to the retard who said "you guys shit talking what the game is now are just haters" It's literally as simple as look at what potential the game had (the first pictures from years ago) and look at the quality of shit posted now lmao. That literally looks like a ripped outfit on some basic model that was posted on the koikatsu discord lol. People were complimenting the pole dance scene someone posted on here too but even that looked super basic. And shock horror big surprise no matter which girl was in the video they all did the exact same animation because why spend any time or effort making anything unique and have quality right.

As for staffing issues I am guessing the so called "experts from triple A games" he said he had in his team at the start left the project after realising helius is just a scammer not trying to make a game. Believe it or not a lot of the best game developers who have worked on triple A games do it because they actually have a passion for making great games and not just wanting to scam money from people. And seeming those people probably would of asked for a decent salary to match their quality he likely just replaced them with some random nobody game designer and artist he found on some 3rd rate art site that he can pay next to nothing to so he can pocket even more money for him self. My mistake actually I forgot they scrapped the game so they don't even need a game designer anymore lol.

Every single thing that this game showed from the very start has either been cut like campaign galatea (accept it shes cut seeming she is not even the first new character past the first 3 anymore despite being 100% finished about 3 years ago) and any enjoyable real progression like combat drills and has been replaced with basic monetization bullshit of battle passes other paid dlc gacha mechanics and so on. And then you look at the games quality both in game and preview art and it's just become disgusting and cheap looking. How can you have a game from years ago that looked better in game and had better concept art than what you are posting years later after receiving millions in funds from both patrons and sponsors who they publicly announced lol.

You know how most projects start with average looking art and game graphics and then get decent funding so the quality becomes miles better? Big brained helius thought outside the box and decided to flip that shit around and start with really high quality art and game graphics get millions in funding and turn the everything into the cheapest worst dogshit looking gacha game on the market. We mere mortals were just not ready for this galaxy brain move clearly.
 
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just back to check,is this game still gallery only game?
I think so? From what I understand, they wasted some months allegedly working on a campaign mode, then polled patrons on whether they should focus on the campaign or the porn, then scrapped the campaign when the patrons who came for the porn... well, voted for the porn.
 

taboge9459

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Nov 16, 2021
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just back to check,is this game still gallery only game?
Think slightly worse than that. It's gallery will now be online only, with 10 people in a server. Animations are locked behind a multi-currency freemium style gacha system. Outfits cost a lot and are in a rotating shop. New content comes in the form of season passes.
 

sceller

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May 29, 2022
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Think slightly worse than that. It's gallery will now be online only, with 10 people in a server. Animations are locked behind a multi-currency freemium style gacha system. Outfits cost a lot and are in a rotating shop. New content comes in the form of season passes.
I have suspicions that this idea will fail.
 
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Kuzukuz

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Think slightly worse than that. It's gallery will now be online only, with 10 people in a server. Animations are locked behind a multi-currency freemium style gacha system. Outfits cost a lot and are in a rotating shop. New content comes in the form of season passes.
so basically just gacha porn game?wadefuk,how was something that the grand idea is fighting lovecraftian monster with story,fps with sex mechanic,becoming like that,holy heck
 

Chanka123

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Sep 14, 2019
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yeah this kinda thing keeps happening with alot of games to the point that its gonna be damn near impossible to crowd source games
 

pinosante

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Yeah, we had fallen doll, that was scrapped, then it became lovecraft, that went nowhere, and now we're basically back to fallen doll even including the same animations they used there (dancing pole).
 
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Jagged

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Nov 28, 2017
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If only they just released the open source and let other programmers finish the game if they don't want to... But no, they just want Genshin Impact gacha money.
 

voltairepop

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Dec 15, 2019
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I don't know if it's sarcasm or not, but I see a lot of white knights here, hope you all bought a copy of Honey Select 2 (+ all DLC) through Amazon to support Illusion, the best developer in the hentai industry. have a nice day. ;)
Do i have to buy one? Can't i pirate it because i am broke?
 

Nihil5320

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its like a 50/50 between people being excited for the monthly updates and people expecting it to flop. its kinda weird why those people still stick around and pay into it
He loses about so presumably a lot of them don't stick around and are replaced throughout the subsequent month. Either they're older subscribers who are just starting to sour on the project or new subscribers suddenly realising that the project might be a bit of a shitshow.

What is interesting is that despite the supposed rebuild being completed at the end of August Helius still, in nearly 4 weeks, hasn't found the time to provide any real detail on it. Even the latest "Rebuilding Progress Report" doesn't have any information regarding what they have actually done in the rebuild, it's just more still renders of unposed models and a bit of concept art for stuff that won't even be in it...

Any other dev and you'd have detailed writeups of what they've changed or added, how it works, screenshots etc. Really makes you wonder whether they're anticipating a negative reception. If all they have to show for it really is just a new playable character, a handful of animations and in game currencies I imagine their subs will drop like flies.
 

BobKilan

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Jun 26, 2019
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Galatea?
0 news about her
No, she has a trailer coming out soon. Galatea and Elizabeth will be getting the pole dance trailer like the other characters recently have. Galatea's model has been tweaked and finished after Steam approval finally and they are currently doing mocap for her. We've already seen a more recent screenshot if you want to search the discord for it.

The trailer should be either coming out this month, per promise, or more likely next month due to the change and bundling it with Elizabeth's trailer.
Galatea got changed to the same height as Alet and its speculated they made her look older because they won't show her face anymore.
No, she was made taller but it was too tall so they made her shorter again, just enough to not be a problem for Steam. As far as he has hinted at nothing has been done to her appearance of age, and the backside certainly looks like a young adult just like before. We will see her in a video, soon.
He loses about so presumably a lot of them don't stick around and are replaced throughout the subsequent month. Either they're older subscribers who are just starting to sour on the project or new subscribers suddenly realising that the project might be a bit of a shitshow.

What is interesting is that despite the supposed rebuild being completed at the end of August Helius still, in nearly 4 weeks, hasn't found the time to provide any real detail on it. Even the latest "Rebuilding Progress Report" doesn't have any information regarding what they have actually done in the rebuild, it's just more still renders of unposed models and a bit of concept art for stuff that won't even be in it...

Any other dev and you'd have detailed writeups of what they've changed or added, how it works, screenshots etc. Really makes you wonder whether they're anticipating a negative reception. If all they have to show for it really is just a new playable character, a handful of animations and in game currencies I imagine their subs will drop like flies.
Rebuild was announced as complete less than a month ago and there is some stuff that needs to be done between completing rebuild and going into alpha but they stated they're prepping for next alpha season soon.

It is completely pointless to complain about artist related progress reports because those occur separately from the issue of the rebuild and alpha update. They're just something extra to show off while we wait. Helius did post a progress report yesterday showing that they're currently working on map based interactions for the club map.

Your last paragraph is false. Normally, small teams do not do this in alpha phase. Look at VAM 2.x which sees almost no progress reports for many months at a time or even professional developers such as Illusion at the forefront of the porn game industry who only begins to share any info at all about 30-60 days before release for hype. Hell, AAA devs usually range from poor or inconsistent communication and droughts to showering us in info two weeks before release. It really depends. If you can't handle alpha and beta states of games you should just wait until full release. This isn't anything new so you can stop exaggerating. We see the same crap with Final Fantasy VII: Remake even. It's stupid.
 

Purple_Heart

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No, she has a trailer coming out soon. Galatea and Elizabeth will be getting the pole dance trailer like the other characters recently have. Galatea's model has been tweaked and finished after Steam approval finally and they are currently doing mocap for her. We've already seen a more recent screenshot if you want to search the discord for it.

The trailer should be either coming out this month, per promise, or more likely next month due to the change and bundling it with Elizabeth's trailer.

No, she was made taller but it was too tall so they made her shorter again, just enough to not be a problem for Steam. As far as he has hinted at nothing has been done to her appearance of age, and the backside certainly looks like a young adult just like before. We will see her in a video, soon.

Rebuild was announced as complete less than a month ago and there is some stuff that needs to be done between completing rebuild and going into alpha but they stated they're prepping for next alpha season soon.

It is completely pointless to complain about artist related progress reports because those occur separately from the issue of the rebuild and alpha update. They're just something extra to show off while we wait. Helius did post a progress report yesterday showing that they're currently working on map based interactions for the club map.

Your last paragraph is false. Normally, small teams do not do this in alpha phase. Look at VAM 2.x which sees almost no progress reports for many months at a time or even professional developers such as Illusion at the forefront of the porn game industry who only begins to share any info at all about 30-60 days before release for hype. Hell, AAA devs usually range from poor or inconsistent communication and droughts to showering us in info two weeks before release. It really depends. If you can't handle alpha and beta states of games you should just wait until full release. This isn't anything new so you can stop exaggerating. We see the same crap with Final Fantasy VII: Remake even. It's stupid.
This post seems like cope: the post.

You say the girl has been made taller to "not be a problem for steam" in one sentence and then say
"nothing has been done to her appearance of age" literally in the next sentence. What :WaitWhat:

In another sentence "they're just something extra to show off" as if the girl in question hasn't been promised for so long. Has it been years? Actually, I don't want to know.

And in your last paragraph you compare a patreon backed game developer to other normal game developers. Those developers don't need money from patreon to do their jobs. Helius on the other hand needs it to survive. This is why the person you've quoted is right. If they aren't providing any details on this supposedly "done" progress, this has a high chance of being another lie. There is literally no reason for Helius to be so secretive, unless they want to go bankrupt.
 
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Nihil5320

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Your last paragraph is false. Normally, small teams do not do this in alpha phase. Look at VAM 2.x which sees almost no progress reports for many months at a time or even professional developers such as Illusion at the forefront of the porn game industry who only begins to share any info at all about 30-60 days before release for hype. Hell, AAA devs usually range from poor or inconsistent communication and droughts to showering us in info two weeks before release. It really depends. If you can't handle alpha and beta states of games you should just wait until full release. This isn't anything new so you can stop exaggerating. We see the same crap with Final Fantasy VII: Remake even. It's stupid.
Sorry I probably should have qualified that final statement with "crowd funded developers," I presumed that was a given.

Obviously AAA devs or even devs like MeshedVR/Illusion, who are selling an actual product, don't have the same obligation or incentives to detail ongoing development. Frankly comparing a Patreon dev's limited updates to those of a self-funded project like FFVII to try and justify it is idiotic.

Rebuild was announced as complete less than a month ago and there is some stuff that needs to be done between completing rebuild and going into alpha but they stated they're prepping for next alpha season soon.

It is completely pointless to complain about artist related progress reports because those occur separately from the issue of the rebuild and alpha update. They're just something extra to show off while we wait. Helius did post a progress report yesterday showing that they're currently working on map based interactions for the club map.
I was commenting on the fact that a "Rebuild Progress Report" doesn't actually report on rebuild progress... that is a little dumb, whichever way you try and spin it.

Ultimately they've had a nine month break from putting out builds and during that time frame they have provided vanishingly little detail as to what in the ever living fuck they've actually been doing. So far we have a playable character and outfits, some animations, some in-game currencies, a vaginal/anal dilation system and... possibly a new map? Some unspecified changes to the games framework?

Compare that to even relatively maligned devs like those behind Subverse and in the same timeframe they've pumped out six detailed dev diaries and multiple new characters and story arcs. Or Our Apartment, a team with the barest sliver of Helius' funding, has completely rebuilt their framework (with a detailed breakdown of why and what changed) and released multiple builds to boot with numerous detailed updates on progress.

Any other dev I'd maybe chalk it up to bad comms, but given the shit Helius has pulled over the years? Colour me sceptical until they release some actual solid detail on what they've done.
 
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